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macole
post Jan 24 2020, 07:18 AM
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I just wish I'd had space for the 60-year old mainframe computer I was once offered. I could probably afford the electricity to run it now. ohmy.gif


... and the tool shed small warehouse to store it in.

Those things were enormous. The water cooling units wouldn't fit in the tool shed, let alone the computer itself. A tape drive was the size of a fridge/freezer, and a disk drive the size of a washing machine. The CPU unit was about the size of my shed. Most other peripherals were desk-sized, and you'd have a card punch, card reader, printer, all wired together with cables four inches thick.

The one I was offered had 16,000 bytes of memory, and 7MByte disks. I forget what the capacity of a twelve-inch reel of tape was. Not a lot, at only 200 bits/inch.


A company I worked for had one the size of a room = a Honeywell.

There was something odd about the Honeywells. The word size was incompatible between IBM 365 & 370 and the Honeywell. In the 1970's the company I worked for had two computer rooms; one IBM, one Honeywell. They were mine from midnight to around 7:00AM when the managers started to come in.


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post Jan 24 2020, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE(mirocu @ Jan 23 2020, 01:52 PM) *

most of them just stick with Windows Defender-


Yep. Windows Defender was fine, until one day it wasn't. mad.gif Grr.....

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QUOTE(ghastley @ Jan 14 2020, 11:42 AM) *

I just wish I'd had space for the 60-year old mainframe computer I was once offered. I could probably afford the electricity to run it now. ohmy.gif


... and the tool shed small warehouse to store it in.

Those things were enormous. The water cooling units wouldn't fit in the tool shed, let alone the computer itself. A tape drive was the size of a fridge/freezer, and a disk drive the size of a washing machine. The CPU unit was about the size of my shed. Most other peripherals were desk-sized, and you'd have a card punch, card reader, printer, all wired together with cables four inches thick.

The one I was offered had 16,000 bytes of memory, and 7MByte disks. I forget what the capacity of a twelve-inch reel of tape was. Not a lot, at only 200 bits/inch.


A company I worked for had one the size of a room = a Honeywell.

There was something odd about the Honeywells. The word size was incompatible between IBM 365 & 370 and the Honeywell. In the 1970's the company I worked for had two computer rooms; one IBM, one Honeywell. They were mine from midnight to around 7:00AM when the managers started to come in.

Between you and ghastley, we could have our own 1970s computer classes. laugh.gif

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post Jan 24 2020, 06:15 PM
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QUOTE(mirocu @ Jan 23 2020, 01:52 PM) *

This is something I read in the comment section of a youtube video. I'll repost it here because I think it sounds like good advice.


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As a computer technician at a large corporation, I constantly have people bringing me their computers to be fixed, they never use Adblock they either use Chrome or Edge, most of them just stick with Windows Defender- don't have any spyware removal software, defragers, or any real cleanup tools on their computers. And almost all of them have the exact same issue, they clicked on some ad in something or a bad email, and then when their computer started acting slow they just kept restarting it.

First rule of business, if you think your computer is being hacked or your computer has a virus- do not restart your computer. Leave it up and running and sever the internet connection If somebody's hacking into your computer this will completely break their connection, and if it's a virus it will slow the spread. The next thing to do is to immediately clear cache on your browsers- all of it. Most viruses start in a cache folder, either audio cash or internet cash is their favorite point of entry.

Once you have severed your internet connection clear your cache if you still have control of your computer set Windows Defender to do a deep scan, if it wants to restart don't let it. When you restart you leave your computer wide open to attack during the boot up process. If it's a virus, if you can download even just the free version of avast or any of the other good ones like Malwarebytes, download it and run a deep scan. After you've completed these steps if the antivirus client fails to find anything, or your computer locks up and does not allow you to do anything, take your computer to the professionals to be cleaned up. And folks, always backup your computer.


Wow, this is some great advice! Thank you so much, Mirocu!!!! *Inserts bowing down emoticon*


QUOTE(Decrepit @ Jan 23 2020, 04:07 PM) *

I'll chime in on defragging, since it's mentioned within your quote. SSDs and M.2s don't benefit from it. If anything, defragging can shorten their lives. I assume it's still beneficial for 'conventional' disk drives? That said, there 'might' be some benefit to defragging even SSDs to totally remove threats of infection, but I've never come across mention of it.

I use both Avast antivirus freeware and paid-for Malewarebytes. I like Avast a lot, except it's forever pushing its non-free software. Up until recently it also tried to sneak in Chrome browser every timer it upgraded itself. I don't allow that on my computers. As mentioned in the past, I feel Brave Browser is a better yet similar alternative. I still prefer Firefox, but Brave is a solid backup browser. In fact, I use it as a primary browser on my secondary computer, leaving Firefox for my brother's use during visits.


I've also heard that about not defragging my SSD drive; just to do it on my standard drive.

I used to use the Avast Freeware, and also used Malwarebytes = but I just used the free version of it. Since we moved in 2016 and changed carriers to Comcast I've just been using the Norton software that Comcast pipes to all their customers (they call it "free," but I'm sure it is included in your internet charges). Norton has such a good reputation; but I don't know how or why. I've always had crappy coverage with it.






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post Jan 24 2020, 06:34 PM
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I just wish I'd had space for the 60-year old mainframe computer I was once offered. I could probably afford the electricity to run it now. ohmy.gif


... and the tool shed small warehouse to store it in.

Those things were enormous. The water cooling units wouldn't fit in the tool shed, let alone the computer itself. A tape drive was the size of a fridge/freezer, and a disk drive the size of a washing machine. The CPU unit was about the size of my shed. Most other peripherals were desk-sized, and you'd have a card punch, card reader, printer, all wired together with cables four inches thick.

The one I was offered had 16,000 bytes of memory, and 7MByte disks. I forget what the capacity of a twelve-inch reel of tape was. Not a lot, at only 200 bits/inch.


A company I worked for had one the size of a room = a Honeywell.

There was something odd about the Honeywells. The word size was incompatible between IBM 365 & 370 and the Honeywell. In the 1970's the company I worked for had two computer rooms; one IBM, one Honeywell. They were mine from midnight to around 7:00AM when the managers started to come in.


Was that in Miami, Florida? That place I worked had two buildings with two different huge massive computers that were totally separate. I worked in the building with the Honeywell; and like Ghastley said = they used those Keypunch cards. The other building was the "elite" administrative = the top brass. They had the IBM. The two computers did not talk to each other; as far as I knew.






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post Jan 24 2020, 08:00 PM
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Norton is so popular it's one of the first antivirus software to be worked around by a virus.


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post Jan 24 2020, 08:22 PM
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QUOTE(Sakiri @ Jan 24 2020, 02:00 PM) *

Norton is so popular it's one of the first antivirus software to be worked around by a virus.


Aha, that explains the issues then. ... urgh.






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post Jan 25 2020, 04:55 AM
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QUOTE(mALX @ Jan 24 2020, 11:34 AM) *

QUOTE(macole @ Jan 24 2020, 01:18 AM) *

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QUOTE(ghastley @ Jan 14 2020, 11:42 AM) *

I just wish I'd had space for the 60-year old mainframe computer I was once offered. I could probably afford the electricity to run it now. ohmy.gif


... and the tool shed small warehouse to store it in.

Those things were enormous. The water cooling units wouldn't fit in the tool shed, let alone the computer itself. A tape drive was the size of a fridge/freezer, and a disk drive the size of a washing machine. The CPU unit was about the size of my shed. Most other peripherals were desk-sized, and you'd have a card punch, card reader, printer, all wired together with cables four inches thick.

The one I was offered had 16,000 bytes of memory, and 7MByte disks. I forget what the capacity of a twelve-inch reel of tape was. Not a lot, at only 200 bits/inch.


A company I worked for had one the size of a room = a Honeywell.

There was something odd about the Honeywells. The word size was incompatible between IBM 365 & 370 and the Honeywell. In the 1970's the company I worked for had two computer rooms; one IBM, one Honeywell. They were mine from midnight to around 7:00AM when the managers started to come in.


Was that in Miami, Florida? That place I worked had two buildings with two different huge massive computers that were totally separate. I worked in the building with the Honeywell; and like Ghastley said = they used those Keypunch cards. The other building was the "elite" administrative = the top brass. They had the IBM. The two computers did not talk to each other; as far as I knew.

That was a bank in St. Louis MO. We did overnight data processing for 32 correspondent banks in the area. Yeah, in early 1970's there we loaded trays and trays of punch cards. Hard to imagine it's been so long ago.


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post Jan 25 2020, 04:15 PM
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QUOTE(macole @ Jan 24 2020, 10:55 PM) *

QUOTE(mALX @ Jan 24 2020, 11:34 AM) *

Was that in Miami, Florida? That place I worked had two buildings with two different huge massive computers that were totally separate. I worked in the building with the Honeywell; and like Ghastley said = they used those Keypunch cards. The other building was the "elite" administrative = the top brass. They had the IBM. The two computers did not talk to each other; as far as I knew.

That was a bank in St. Louis MO. We did overnight data processing for 32 correspondent banks in the area. Yeah, in early 1970's there we loaded trays and trays of punch cards. Hard to imagine it's been so long ago.


Some government agencies still use the Keypunch system; and also still use those ancient CRT's with the orange text and giant blinking square cursor too, lol.






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post Jan 26 2020, 06:57 AM
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QUOTE(mALX @ Jan 25 2020, 09:15 AM) *

QUOTE(macole @ Jan 24 2020, 10:55 PM) *

QUOTE(mALX @ Jan 24 2020, 11:34 AM) *

Was that in Miami, Florida? That place I worked had two buildings with two different huge massive computers that were totally separate. I worked in the building with the Honeywell; and like Ghastley said = they used those Keypunch cards. The other building was the "elite" administrative = the top brass. They had the IBM. The two computers did not talk to each other; as far as I knew.

That was a bank in St. Louis MO. We did overnight data processing for 32 correspondent banks in the area. Yeah, in early 1970's there we loaded trays and trays of punch cards. Hard to imagine it's been so long ago.


Some government agencies still use the Keypunch system; and also still use those ancient CRT's with the orange text and giant blinking square cursor too, lol.

Oh, the old green screen. Those were the days.


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Well, a month or so ago I noticed that Puter's external speakers began displaying some distortion at moderate (or more) volume. Since my headphone/mic that does not go through the speakers was fine I theorized that it was just my old speakers going bad. A call to the place that built and maintains Puter generated concurrence with my theory. So I ordered a replacement pair of the same inexpensive Logitec speakers for about $9US. They arrived today and perfectly fixed the problem. Simple, inexpensive and done. I'm pleased that I didn't have to send up emergency flare signals asking for rescue by SubRosa or ghastley. tongue.gif


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post Feb 14 2020, 07:14 PM
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Sweet, glad you got it fixed!



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