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monkeyemoness
post Apr 21 2018, 12:38 AM
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Since ZOS placed a more lenient NDA on Summerset--restricting it entirely to the main quest past the first one--I figure it's okay to talk about what goes on in the land of the Altmer.

I couldn't save many screenshots because my antivirus program blocked the PTS from making screenshots, but I managed to save these two:

Jo'zira's favorite spot so far.
Many colors!

I took these in the southeastern corner of the island. Though I deeply detest how cowardly the Altmer's architecture designed, it's almost made up by how vibrant the rest of the island is, even the creatures!

Though the flora is mostly the same across the entire island, there's no shortage of different environments to explore. And holy hell, the island is actually pretty big! I was worried there wouldn't be enough of a tropical feel like Auridon (though its beaches did invoke that somewhat) but man, it was unfounded.

I haven't actually done many quests, mostly I just stuck to exploring and activating the Psijiic skill line. I also looked at jewelry crafting. It sure is...well, crafting I guess? People on the official forums have been saying that the nodes are really rare but I haven't had much trouble finding them, even on Summerset. I think the hardest part will be getting the new traits, especially at first.

Anyways, that's most of what I have to say right now. I'd say I'm pleasantly surprised, but tbh? This is pretty much my experience with ESO. The architecture is bad, but everything else is great. (No spoilers of that kind until May 1!)

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post Sep 15 2018, 06:43 PM
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Completed Summerset now, so here is my final impression. MILD STORY SPOILERS AHEAD.

First, location. Both Summerset and Artaeum look fantastic, and fit in well with the rest of the world. Summerset especially feels lively and vibrant, with plenty to see. The architecture in the cities is wonderful, and the ancient ruins dotted around the landscape give the whole place a real sense of history. There's very little empty space, and the wilderness areas are packed with trees and plants and streams. The little Daedric locations throughout the main story were also quite striking, and really spiced things up.

Story. Not bad! It's interesting, has a decent amount of lore mixed in, and some nice enough characters. I'm kind of tired of this daedra storyline (it started, what, at the end of Orsinium?) so I'm glad we seem to be more or less finished with it. I thought Sotha Sil in particular played a great role here, and continues to be one of my favourite characters in the game. I completed the main story as Haa-Rei, but may go through again as Cirinwe if I have time.

Side quests. Really really enjoyed them here, as good if not better than the high standards elsewhere in the game. They fill in bits of lore about Summerset and the Altmer people, while presenting multiple views of their society. Particularly enjoyed the quests with the Hulkynd and the acting troupe - I did the side quests as Cirinwe, and it's given me about 1000 different ideas for things to write about and include in her general headcanon.

I think the writers could have gone a little lighter on the 'Altmer are arrogant and dislike foreigners' thing because it started getting a little stale after a while, though good on them for having lots of different dialogue for Altmer characters. Next time, add more [INTIMIDATE] dialogue options so Cirinwe can remind people of their manners.

Overall, pretty good. Better than Morrowind, but I think I prefer the smaller DLCs to these big chapter/expansion/things.

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post Sep 18 2018, 11:01 PM
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QUOTE(hazmick @ Sep 15 2018, 01:43 PM) *

Completed Summerset now, so here is my final impression. MILD STORY SPOILERS AHEAD.

First, location. Both Summerset and Artaeum look fantastic, and fit in well with the rest of the world. Summerset especially feels lively and vibrant, with plenty to see. The architecture in the cities is wonderful, and the ancient ruins dotted around the landscape give the whole place a real sense of history. There's very little empty space, and the wilderness areas are packed with trees and plants and streams. The little Daedric locations throughout the main story were also quite striking, and really spiced things up.

Story. Not bad! It's interesting, has a decent amount of lore mixed in, and some nice enough characters. I'm kind of tired of this daedra storyline (it started, what, at the end of Orsinium?) so I'm glad we seem to be more or less finished with it. I thought Sotha Sil in particular played a great role here, and continues to be one of my favourite characters in the game. I completed the main story as Haa-Rei, but may go through again as Cirinwe if I have time.

Side quests. Really really enjoyed them here, as good if not better than the high standards elsewhere in the game. They fill in bits of lore about Summerset and the Altmer people, while presenting multiple views of their society. Particularly enjoyed the quests with the Hulkynd and the acting troupe - I did the side quests as Cirinwe, and it's given me about 1000 different ideas for things to write about and include in her general headcanon.

I think the writers could have gone a little lighter on the 'Altmer are arrogant and dislike foreigners' thing because it started getting a little stale after a while, though good on them for having lots of different dialogue for Altmer characters. Next time, add more [INTIMIDATE] dialogue options so Cirinwe can remind people of their manners.

Overall, pretty good. Better than Morrowind, but I think I prefer the smaller DLCs to these big chapter/expansion/things.


I agree with everything you said here, that is how it came across to me too! I haven't finished all the side quests yet, but plan to soon. Also plan to bring my other characters through the Psijic line to get more of them seeing the awesome Psijic Portals!




QUOTE(Acadian @ Sep 15 2018, 02:46 PM) *

Thanks for the update, haz. I agree that Summerset is beautiful and compares nicely to Auridon with a couple exceptions - a higher density of 'nuisance critters' to interfere with the gorgeous scenery and there's a bit too much 'cliff-channeling' (hard to get where you want) for me. I found the quests well-written and often included many wonderful bits of humor. Enjoy!


Yes, the injections of humor in Summerset were some of my favorite parts about the quests!




QUOTE(haute ecole rider @ Sep 16 2018, 01:22 PM) *

One thing I really enjoyed about Summerset is the sly humor that quite often surfaces when speaking to the Aldmer NPCs - it's almost as if they are poking fun at their rather stratified society and restrictive culture. It's sly, it's subtle, and it makes me chuckle and even view Altmer/Aldmer in a different light. Now having played Summerset with my Julian, I am giving serious consideration to starting an Altmer toon - which would be my first, as my third AD character.


Now that you mention it, I might bring Pia over there and see how the dialogue differs if you are playing an Altmer, lol.




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monkeyemoness   Summerset Chapter Topic   Apr 21 2018, 12:38 AM
Acadian   Wow, the pics look beautiful! I'm so ti...   Apr 21 2018, 03:02 AM
TheCheshireKhajiit   Wow, the pics look beautiful! I'm so t...   Apr 21 2018, 03:04 AM
monkeyemoness   Wow, the pics look beautiful! I'm so t...   Apr 21 2018, 07:48 PM
monkeyemoness   Oh nice! They're adding Jewelry stuff int...   Apr 23 2018, 08:43 PM
ghastley   Well that was annoying. They re-copied the PTS whe...   Apr 24 2018, 05:24 AM
Acadian   Do we know yet whether we can craft jewelry that i...   Apr 24 2018, 06:56 PM
ghastley   Do we know yet whether we can craft jewelry that ...   Apr 24 2018, 07:13 PM
monkeyemoness   [quote name='Acadian' post='300520' date='Apr 24 ...   Apr 24 2018, 07:35 PM
ghastley   My failure to improve may have been lack of materi...   Apr 24 2018, 07:46 PM
Acadian   Oh that's good news that you can craft jewelry...   Apr 24 2018, 10:59 PM
ghastley   Some more details of jewel crafting are starting t...   Apr 25 2018, 07:46 PM
monkeyemoness   You have to reach level 6 before you can start the...   Apr 25 2018, 08:14 PM
ghastley   You have to reach level 6 before you can start th...   Apr 26 2018, 04:56 PM
monkeyemoness   Mini update: more than a few of the vanilla voice ...   Apr 26 2018, 01:17 AM
ghastley   Making a note for myself. I need to make a new g...   Apr 26 2018, 07:42 PM
Grits   ghastley, I have used Night Mother’s Gaze with ...   Apr 26 2018, 08:41 PM
monkeyemoness   monkey, Darnand (DC) just started Through a Veil ...   Apr 26 2018, 09:49 PM
ghastley   monkey, Darnand (DC) just started Through a Veil ...   Apr 26 2018, 09:51 PM
monkeyemoness   So one last thing about the story before May 1st, ...   Apr 27 2018, 06:17 PM
ghastley   It looks like the only way to test jewel crafting ...   May 7 2018, 03:08 PM
monkeyemoness   Huh, did the character not start with all traits r...   May 7 2018, 08:06 PM
monkeyemoness   Decided to test how "sustainable" Jewelr...   May 13 2018, 04:30 AM
monkeyemoness   New Login Music :0 (I still miss the original) ...   May 14 2018, 11:37 PM
ghastley   So unlike the other equipment crafts, Jewelry Wri...   May 15 2018, 03:44 AM
monkeyemoness   Master Writs don't take into account how much ...   May 15 2018, 08:18 PM
ghastley   The imponderable question is how much the 10 powde...   May 15 2018, 08:54 PM
monkeyemoness   I guess there IS the style to consider, isn't ...   May 20 2018, 10:07 PM
mALX   I guess there IS the style to consider, isn't...   May 21 2018, 10:42 PM
monkeyemoness   So anyways, tomorrow's the big day. :U I...   May 20 2018, 10:28 PM
ghastley   I'm actually more excited by the prospect of g...   May 21 2018, 01:23 AM
Acadian   A Nightblade has a spell to briefly go invisible. ...   May 21 2018, 02:25 AM
monkeyemoness   I'd say Nightblades are "easy mode" ...   May 21 2018, 03:34 AM
Acadian   Wow, 'twas a big upload/update. Took some ti...   May 21 2018, 07:40 PM
Grits   Jerric got his entire crew certified in jewelry cr...   May 22 2018, 12:33 AM
mALX   Darnand got a kind of [url=https://i.imgur.com/vd...   May 23 2018, 04:54 AM
ghastley   If you can pick up the node, maybe you can sell t...   May 23 2018, 02:43 PM
monkeyemoness   So i'm a flipping goblin and basically did eve...   May 22 2018, 01:02 AM
Acadian   Hey Grits, that new hat Jerric has looks like an e...   May 22 2018, 03:22 AM
ghastley   I was surprised to find pewter and platinum nodes ...   May 23 2018, 04:29 AM
monkeyemoness   Jerric got his entire crew certified in jewelry c...   May 23 2018, 07:09 PM
monkeyemoness   Hey, so, didja know there's 2 new Provisioning...   May 26 2018, 02:26 AM
monkeyemoness   (Potential spoilers for the very first quest in Su...   May 27 2018, 01:58 AM
TheCheshireKhajiit   (Potential spoilers for the very first quest in S...   May 27 2018, 02:43 PM
haute ecole rider   Raz is not known for his diplomacy. In fact, I rec...   May 27 2018, 10:40 PM
monkeyemoness   Is it me or has this guy never shown up before? I...   May 29 2018, 09:45 PM
mALX   Is it me or has this guy never shown up before? ...   May 30 2018, 02:12 AM
monkeyemoness   ^He has followup dialogue where you can ask him wh...   May 30 2018, 10:00 PM
monkeyemoness   No spoilers, but I'm glad I made this Eolan an...   Jun 2 2018, 12:09 AM
monkeyemoness   Listen, I absolutely fricking loved this questline...   Jun 4 2018, 03:25 AM
TheCheshireKhajiit   Listen, I absolutely fricking loved this questlin...   Jun 6 2018, 02:46 AM
monkeyemoness   My feelings about how the Summerset questline ende...   Jun 6 2018, 12:02 AM
monkeyemoness   https://78.media.tumblr.com/60beb3ab4f4e239ed7ac9e...   Jun 12 2018, 04:03 AM
mALX   [img]https://78.media.tumblr.com/60beb3ab4f4e239e...   Jun 12 2018, 03:54 PM
monkeyemoness   [spoiler] Uh oh, this doesn't sound good for...   Jun 17 2018, 06:56 PM
mALX   [spoiler] Uh oh, this doesn't sound good fo...   Jun 18 2018, 07:10 PM
ghastley   Moving the discussion of non-Summerset Jewelry cra...   Jun 26 2018, 07:16 PM
monkeyemoness   So I recently finished my run of the entirety of S...   Jul 12 2018, 02:46 AM
Acadian   Thanks for the update, haz. I agree that Summers...   Sep 15 2018, 07:46 PM
haute ecole rider   One thing I really enjoyed about Summerset is the ...   Sep 16 2018, 06:22 PM
hazmick   Updated my thoughts on the expansion. Going to go ...   Sep 17 2018, 09:17 PM


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