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Chorrol.com _ Oblivion _ Ten Years of Oblivion, y'all.

Posted by: Renee Oct 23 2018, 11:30 PM

cake.gif Have some cake, folks. Tomorrow shall be a celebration! cake.gif

October 24, 2008 is the day (actually it was night) when I first discovered TES IV: Oblivion. Although I had seen a Bethesda game in the early 2000s; I was at a party and somebody was playing a brand-new game on the brand-new Xbox, and this game had a lot of fog in it and LOTS of room to roam around, I remained clueless about it. I have a slim memory of asking the guy who was playing "hey, what's the name of this game?" And his answer (The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind) would've been too complicated to remember. Perhaps I wrote the name down. If so, I lost that scrap of paper.

One thing which struck was the way its world seemed endless. It went on and on and on. Thinking back, now I realize the guy was roaming around the Pelagiad area at the time. Everything was sort of Dr. Seuss-looking and colorful. Another memory from that party: I kept thinking that at some point, all of this would end. The guy would accomplish some task and then a huge banner would flash across the screen...

CONGRATULATONS, YOU HAVE GAINED LEVEL 6!!!!


... and then this "world" would end and he'd be in the next one, sort of like Tomb Raider. But that never happened. There was just one world to explore, and it was huge.

I spent much of the 2000s looking for this game, unknowing that it was never released on Playstation. sad.gif During my search for that game, I bought and tried plenty of others on PS and PS2, hoping I'd find the mysterious one with all the fog in it. Of course, I never did.

Fast-forward to October 24, 2008. I was bored one night. I had a bit of money saved, and began to think if there's anything worthwhile on the PS3, I'll go ahead and get a PS3 then. So I went to GameRevolution.com (my favorite gaming website at the time) and began reading their PS3 reviews, starting with the As. Assassin's Creed was not out yet. I'm pretty certain I would have just stopped at AC if it had been out. Thankfully, it was not, or was not on PS3 yet.

I moved on to the Bs. Then the Cs. The Ds. Es. F.... G ... H .. I JKLMNOPQRST.

T Okay, so a game with a complicated name caught my attention. https://www.gamerevolution.com/review/72342-the-elder-scrolls-iv-oblivion-review. Actually, I will quote its very first paragraph now.

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Like most adult geeks reared on Dungeons and Dragons, I often find myself a bit disconnected when faced with the endless waves of Japanese RPGs that have taken over the genre. Every time I find myself in the shoes of yet another spiky-haired protagonist with a mysterious past and a sword the size of a telephone pole, I wonder where all the role-playing has gone.

Not that there aren’t some excellent imports out there, but is walking my pre-designed character, his bossy, magical girlfriend, and a talking animal through a linear story in which I save the spirit of the earth, or the essence of Gaea, or whatever they’re calling it this time, really role-playing? If you’re truly playing a role, you should be able to forge your own destiny as a sneaky thief, a righteous paladin, a crude barbarian, a pretentious mage, or a vile murderer.


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That right there is what caught my eyes. Because that was ME, so far as gaming went. laugh.gif I felt like those two paragraphs described ME as a gamer. I had spent all these years playing linear games.... not all of them were horrible, but every one of them was linear. I'd literally go to step off some path, hoping to be able to explore some pretty underbrush, but *bonk* nope.... can't even step off the path. "A bit disconnected." ... "Pre-designed characters."... "Weapons the size of telephone poles."... Why doesn't anybody make a game which allows ME to make the character I want to make? Is such a thing even possible? smile.gif

After not even reading that whole article, it took me maybe 40 minutes to jump in my crappy Corolla, drive to the nearest mall, and plunk down $400 for a PS3 and this cool new game. The next few hours were then a blur. I rolled a character named Lady Anne. She was my first! I don't even know what she looked like, I never took a picture of her. smile.gif But after spending 3 hours doing the tutorial, delivering the Amulet, I decided that Lady Anne would "retire" in Chorrol, because I loved the opening experience so much, I immediately wanted to do it all over again, with some other character (whose name I have forgotten).

Anyway, that's my story. Thanks for listening. cake.gif Feel free to share your stories, too.

Posted by: SubRosa Oct 23 2018, 11:56 PM

Wow, ten years! I am just one year behind you.

I too, have long been tired of the games that force a specific protagonist on you. Except for a few rare cases, like with Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice, it is not the character I want to play. So I tend to stick with games where I can create my own character, and play them how I want them to.

Posted by: Lopov Oct 24 2018, 09:13 AM

Though I played Oblivion shortly after its release, I didn't find it that great as I do it these days, because my main games during that period were GTAs. Later as I became older and more mature and discovered the beauty of roleplaying, I started to appreciate Oblivion much more. Happy birthday Oblivion! cake.gif

Posted by: mirocu Oct 24 2018, 05:38 PM

Happy anniversary, Renee! salute.gif


I celebrated mine last year so you're not far behind. I know your story quite well but it's always fun reading about it. My tutorial experience was amazing as well but never to the point that I wanted to do it again. As you may have figured out, I'm a one time only kind of Crow wink.gif


Congrats on your decade playing Oblivion! Have some more cake.gif while you play! biggrin.gif

Posted by: Renee Oct 24 2018, 07:07 PM

QUOTE(SubRosa @ Oct 23 2018, 06:56 PM) *

Except for a few rare cases, like with Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice, it is not the character I want to play. So I tend to stick with games where I can create my own character, and play them how I want them to.

Yes, for me this is Lara Croft: Tomb Raider. I'd go back to a Tomb Raider game if I weren't so involved with Bethesda games (or Baldur's Gate) but Beth and BG have ruined me for all other linear games.

QUOTE(Lopov @ Oct 24 2018, 04:13 AM) *

Though I played Oblivion shortly after its release, I didn't find it that great as I do it these days, because my main games during that period were GTAs. Later as I became older and more mature and discovered the beauty of roleplaying, I started to appreciate Oblivion much more. Happy birthday Oblivion! cake.gif

Thank you. And as you know, my first non-linear game was actually GTA: Vice City, but I don't count that because it's a pre-designed character. I also tried Evercrack Everquest before Oblivion, but got bored with EQ, or something.

QUOTE(mirocu @ Oct 24 2018, 12:38 PM) *

... but never to the point that I wanted to do it again. As you may have figured out, I'm a one time only kind of Crow wink.gif

Aw, come on! Just one more time! laugh.gif Kidding.


Posted by: ghastley Oct 25 2018, 08:22 PM

This had me trying to figure out when I first played Oblivion. My first mod, Rumple Mod, was posted to the Nexus in August 2009, but I'd started creating it a year before that. I know I must have played the game a bit before starting to change it, but it's hard to work out when.

I assume you have a diary entry or something outside the game itself. I was trying to use the file dates on my installation, but BOSS rewrites the esp dates, and a lot of things copy in with their original create date already set. I.e. they're Beth's dates, not mine. My best estimate so far is June 2008, but not which day.

And I played the TES series in the order: Oblivion, Daggerfall, Arena, Skyrim, Morrowind. I have not modded Arena, but I don't know if anyone has managed to do that. All the others, even if I haven't published any for Morrowind (yet?)

Posted by: Renee Oct 25 2018, 08:45 PM

QUOTE(ghastley @ Oct 25 2018, 03:22 PM) *

I assume you have a diary entry or something outside the game itself.


I looked at my first batch of saves one day back when Lady Anne was still extant, and so October 24, 2008 is burned into my memory, since my first character no longer exists (I think). I began gaming somewhere between 9:30 pm and 10:00. Spent so much time gaming, I decided I'd better call in "sick" for work the next day. laugh.gif

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And I played the TES series in the order: Oblivion, Daggerfall, Arena, Skyrim, Morrowind. I have not modded Arena, but I don't know if anyone has managed to do that. All the others, even if I haven't published any for Morrowind (yet?)

I went Oblivion (2008), Skyrim (2011), Arena (2013), Oblivion on PC (2014), Skyrim on PC (2015), Daggerfall (last year, I think), and finally Morrowind would be summer of 2017.


Posted by: ghastley Oct 25 2018, 09:09 PM

QUOTE(Renee @ Oct 25 2018, 03:45 PM) *

QUOTE(ghastley @ Oct 25 2018, 03:22 PM) *

I assume you have a diary entry or something outside the game itself.


I looked at my first batch of saves one day back when Lady Anne was still extant, and so October 24, 2008 is burned into my memory, since my first character no longer exists (I think). I began gaming somewhere between 9:30 pm and 10:00. Spent so much time gaming, I decided I'd better call in "sick" for work the next day. laugh.gif


I can't do that, as I had so many I culled the older ones a long time ago. Many of my profiles have the oldest save at level 50.

At some point, as well, I started playing multiple characters with different combinations of mods, using Wrye Bash's profiles, and files may have been re-dated in that reorganisation.

Posted by: Sakiri Nov 25 2018, 09:57 PM

I was all over Oblivion on launch day. I'd grown tired of Morrowind, and my bf at the time was all over it. He was waiting for Oblivion with bated breath.

Then I proceeded to play the crap out of it until 2010. Then Skyrim stole me(took over a year playing other stuff).

I don't have old saves. I changed computers four times. Bought the game twice. Never played on console.

Posted by: mirocu Nov 26 2018, 06:03 PM

QUOTE(Sakiri @ Nov 25 2018, 09:57 PM) *

Bought the game twice.

Amateur wink.gif biggrin.gif

Posted by: Sakiri Nov 26 2018, 07:57 PM

Wouldn't have done it twice if I could use the DVD I have. No drive.

Posted by: mirocu Nov 26 2018, 08:03 PM

I've bought it five times at least and I still have all of them tongue.gif

Posted by: Sakiri Nov 26 2018, 11:10 PM

I've never lost a disc nor had one wear out. At first I used ex bf's discs, then bought my own in 2007. Still have it(only one DLC).

Posted by: Renee Nov 27 2018, 12:06 AM

mitocu you're one to talk! laugh.gif Mister "I got Skyrim on my shelf and have never played it!" laugh.gif

Posted by: Sakiri Nov 27 2018, 12:40 PM

Wait, he actually has Skyrim but never played it?

Lol. That's funny. But it's also okay.

Posted by: Renee Nov 27 2018, 02:52 PM

Yeah, mirocu .... er.... uh...

better let him explain it. I'll get it wrong. laugh.gif

Posted by: ghastley Nov 27 2018, 03:15 PM

I also had Skyrim, but resisted playing it for a long time.

I bought the Anthology Edition for the other games. You couldn't get Morrowind any more, and I also wanted Arena, so why not? I ended up trying Skyrim, despite the Steam involvement, when I couldn't get Morrowind to work on Windows 8, and I'd already played enough Arena.

The rest is history. I still despise Steam, and the fact that a third party can turn off the game I bought from Bethesda, but I'm living with it, modding the @#$% out of it, and now playing ESO more of the time. Skyrim still gets attention when the urge to make a mod gets hold of me - like now.


Posted by: Sakiri Nov 27 2018, 04:38 PM

I wanted to get the anthology but never could afford it back at the time.

I have Morrowind through Skyrim and I still play Skyrim the most.

Wonder how Arena and Daggerfall would run on Win 10 though.

Posted by: Renee Nov 27 2018, 04:45 PM

QUOTE(Sakiri @ Nov 27 2018, 10:38 AM) *

Wonder how Arena and Daggerfall would run on Win 10 though.

I've run both games on Windows 8 and 8.1, I've never had any issues. Either game requires a DOS emulator to run on newer systems, but I think the Anthology set comes with its own emulator. If you're not using the Anthology, you'll probably just have to google a bit to find this program.

I know these two games were offered for free for awhile, not sure if that's still true. Decrepit would know, wherever he is. Bottom line though is that I've never had any issues with either game. If anything, they load up super-quick with modern processors, whereas back in the day apparently '90s-era computers were super slow loading up!


Posted by: ghastley Nov 27 2018, 05:44 PM

Anthology installs both of them to run under DosBox. That handles the different display drivers, processor speeds, sound etc. that you had to select in the old DOS install process.

When I made mods for Daggerfall, I had to run the tools in DosBox, too, as they were all built for DOS.

I found that Windows 10 handled old games better than Windows 8. I couldn't get Morrowind to work under 8 at all. It wouldn't show me a cursor, which made it unplayable. Win 10 fixed that, but I got rid of my win 10 laptop, and play everything on the Win 7 desktop machine. Windows 10 spent all its time trying to update itself, and that got in the way of actually using it for anything.

Posted by: Sakiri Nov 27 2018, 06:11 PM

That's weird. My Win 10 almost never updates.

But good to know everything does run on it. Should I ever get the itch.


Posted by: mirocu Nov 27 2018, 06:45 PM

QUOTE(Renee @ Nov 27 2018, 12:06 AM) *

mitocu you're one to talk! laugh.gif Mister "I got Skyrim on my shelf and have never played it!" laugh.gif

Hmm, not sure what the significance is. All I said was I bought Oblivion five times. But yes indeed, I do have Skyrim though never played it. Too busy playing all my copies of Oblivion laugh.gif

Posted by: ghastley Nov 27 2018, 07:41 PM

QUOTE(Sakiri @ Nov 27 2018, 12:11 PM) *

That's weird. My Win 10 almost never updates.

Nor did mine, but 75% of the CPU was used checking unsuccessfully for updates, without even using the internet. I'd turn off windows update, and kill the service task, and be OK for while, but whenever I did want to get an update, it would all turn itself back on. The looping task never got fixed by any of the updates applied, either. I found several reports of the same problem from others, and the fix was always to turn off automatic updates, and keep them off.

I gave the laptop to my mother, who has no internet connection, and can't use the Windows Update feature anyway, with it turned off. She'll never turn it on, so the problem won't come back for her.

Posted by: mirocu Feb 25 2019, 06:54 PM

Twelve years for me now in February. Blimey.


And the years go on... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Posted by: Acadian Feb 25 2019, 07:09 PM

Neat, mirocu! Or as dear mALX would say, 'AWESOME!' tongue.gif

Posted by: mirocu Feb 25 2019, 08:01 PM

Sometimes it feels like I'm missing out when sticking to the same game instead of moving on in the series. But then Auriel's Ascension starts playing, I see Cyrodiil again, and I'm home...







Posted by: Renee Feb 25 2019, 08:32 PM



Congrads, crow. Have yourself some cake.gif sir. You and I, we're the only ones (plus about four others in the new forums) who still can't get enough of Cyrodiil.

Posted by: mirocu Feb 25 2019, 08:44 PM

QUOTE(Renee @ Feb 25 2019, 08:32 PM) *

Congrads, crow. Have yourself some cake.gif sir. You and I, we're the only ones (plus about four others in the new forums) who still can't get enough of Cyrodiil.

Thanks for the cake, Renee! I need that after all the semlas I've eaten recently biggrin.gif


Oblivion is my home game, plain and simple. The way it works is; games find me. It's always been like that more or less. Not gonna go through it all now but when Oblivion came around it was just another game to explore. But even early on the scope of it told me this was not gonna be a short-lived journey. I actually got a little scared to not have time for something else anymore, especially since I initially intended to play another game first. I had even started to read that game's manual in preparation. But for whatever reason, Oblivion jumped up..

Posted by: Renee Feb 25 2019, 09:59 PM

Yeah me too. It literally jumped out at me, this game. It changed my life. I had substance abuse problems back in the latter 2000s that I was really struggling with. So this game, which pretty much began to steal away ALL my available free-time, was quite the blessing because it gave me something to do, assuming my daughter was at one of her friends' places, or whatever.

And I'm glad IV was my first Elder Scrolls experience, not III. I'm glad my first was the one everyone used to call "generic." I realized some time in 2009 or 2010 that if this game is a generic, streamlined, dumbed-down fantasy game, then I'm a lover of generic, streamlined, dumbed-down fantasy games. :tongue: From my perspective, Oblivion was not really generic, streamlined, or dumbed-down. After playing all those linear games from the '90s and 2000s, TES IV (to me) seemed absolutely spectacular and open, with lots to do and plenty that's never even gotten done.

That being said, i wish you would try Skyrim, crow. You already have the game. And you don't have to use Steam, although I don't wanna get into how to avoid Steam publicly, I do know of someone who's avoided it for many years, and he's not had any problems.

There, I said it.


Posted by: mirocu Feb 25 2019, 10:03 PM

QUOTE(Renee @ Feb 25 2019, 09:59 PM) *

And I'm glad IV was my first Elder Scrolls experience, not III. I'm glad my first was the one everyone used to call "generic." I realized some time in 2009 or 2010 that if this game is a generic, streamlined, dumbed-down fantasy game, then I'm a lover of generic, streamlined, dumbed-down fantasy games. :tongue: From my perspective, Oblivion was not really generic, streamlined, or dumbed-down. After playing all those linear games from the '90s and 2000s, TES IV (to me) seemed absolutely spectacular and open, with lots to do and plenty that's never even gotten done.

Completely agree.

QUOTE(Renee @ Feb 25 2019, 09:59 PM) *

That being said, i wish you would try Skyrim, crow. You already have the game. And you don't have to use Steam, although I don't wanna get into how to avoid Steam publicly, I do know of someone who's avoided it for many years, and he's not had any problems.

There, I said it.

Thanks, but I have no interest in playing Skyrim.

Posted by: RaderOfTheLostArk Mar 15 2019, 10:51 PM

Ugh, don't get me started on the whole "generic/dumbed down/etc." stuff that this fanbase uses against every subsequent game. Especially when most of the people who say that garbage love the game that STARTED the streamlining (Morrowind). If there were more Daggerfall fans that were more vocal or still populated the fanbase, they'd be saying the same garbage about Morrowind. Hell, I bet there were even some Arena fans back in the day that complained that DAGGERFALL "dumbed down" mechanics. Streamlining isn't inherently good or bad. It all depends on what exactly you do. Morrowind/Oblivion/Skyrim all have both good and bad examples of streamlining.

I think this obnoxious "dumbing down" thing is mostly just people who feel this overwhelming need to feel superior on the Internet because they, for whatever reason, can't accept that there are different tastes and there other good games that don't fit what they want. And the only way they can feel superior is by being condescending to others and games they just don't like.

Anyway, Skyrim was my first one. To be honest, I didn't like Oblivion at first because I didn't expect it to be so different from Skyrim. But I gave it a chance and I started to really enjoy it. I came to actually love how different each game feels yet they all feel like they fit together in some way. Admittedly, I don't love it as much as Morrowind or Skyrim, but there is still a lot to love about it. For example, Oblivion has better overall side quests (i.e., not main quest or faction) than both Morrowind and Skyrim, IMO.


QUOTE(mirocu @ Feb 25 2019, 05:03 PM) *

Thanks, but I have no interest in playing Skyrim.


Just curious, 'Rocu: Why don't you ever want to play Skyrim? Besides the fact that you are a filthy pleb. Just kidding. But seriously, how come it doesn't interest you?

Posted by: mirocu Mar 16 2019, 09:25 AM

QUOTE(RaderOfTheLostArk @ Mar 15 2019, 10:51 PM) *

Just curious, 'Rocu: Why don't you ever want to play Skyrim? how come it doesn't interest you?

I've played Oblivion for 12 years and counting and it's like saving up to have long hair; it's time invested and you don't give that up easily. I've played other games in between, sure, but they are temporary which is something Skyrim couldn't be as it's open world as well. Yes, I do play Fallout 3 too but I can't have yet another game in that category. Also, Skyrim is too similar to Oblivion with spells and archery etc. I think this is the best I can explain why. I don't have an inherent hate for Skyrim or anything.

Oblivion is where it started for me and I still remember that indescribable feeling I got when I was new to it. It's the only game that ever caused me to get bad teeth for awhile becuase I simply couldn't stop playing to brush properly even after six hours of constant gaming! laugh.gif

QUOTE(RaderOfTheLostArk @ Mar 15 2019, 10:51 PM) *

Besides the fact that you are a filthy pleb.

Are.... Are you Uleni or just his deciple? tongue.gif

Posted by: Acadian Mar 16 2019, 11:51 AM

Good attitude regarding Skyrim, mirocu. Both are good games - just different. Skyrim took three steps forward from Oblivion. . . and three steps back. One of those steps back, I'm sure you recall, is requiring Steam to play.

Comparing the two. . . . Out of the box, I prefer Oblivion. For me, Skyrim would be unacceptable without a ton of mods. That said, heavily modded Skyrim is every bit as good or better than heavily modded Oblivion in my opinion. Can't go wrong loving either or both. smile.gif

Posted by: RaderOfTheLostArk Mar 16 2019, 03:32 PM

QUOTE(mirocu @ Mar 16 2019, 04:25 AM) *

Are.... Are you Uleni or just his deciple? tongue.gif


Pah! Uleni is far beneath me! I'm nobody's disciple!

But fair enough on Skyrim, I suppose.

Posted by: macole Jan 14 2020, 06:26 PM

QUOTE(Acadian @ Mar 16 2019, 04:51 AM) *

Good attitude regarding Skyrim, mirocu. Both are good games - just different. Skyrim took three steps forward from Oblivion. . . and three steps back. One of those steps back, I'm sure you recall, is requiring Steam to play.

Comparing the two. . . . Out of the box, I prefer Oblivion. For me, Skyrim would be unacceptable without a ton of mods. That said, heavily modded Skyrim is every bit as good or better than heavily modded Oblivion in my opinion. Can't go wrong loving either or both. smile.gif

Agree. It took me 4-years to get over the Steam requirement before I bought Skyrim. Got it modded to play like I want then along came the Creation Club. CC's first update trashed my game. After a second CC update and a Win10 update did it again, I bowed out of Skyrim for awhile. Back to Oblivion, Morrowind, and Daggerfall I went.

Posted by: ghastley Jan 14 2020, 06:36 PM

QUOTE(macole @ Jan 14 2020, 12:26 PM) *

Agree. It took me 4-years to get over the Steam requirement before I bought Skyrim. Got it modded to play like I want then along came the Creation Club. CC's first update trashed my game. After a second CC update and a Win10 update did it again, I bowed out of Skyrim for awhile. Back to Oblivion, Morrowind, and Daggerfall I went.

The CC fiasco is making me very worried that TES VI will be a disaster for mod authors. I run Skyrim LE, but SE gets broken too often.

Posted by: mirocu Feb 14 2021, 10:28 AM

So I'm gonna piggyback this thread for this post biggrin.gif


I'm not sure about the exact date, but this month it's 14 years since I started to play Oblivion. That's almost one and a half decade! ohmy.gif And while I don't play as much each session anymore for obvious reasons, I am still playing and never actually stopped. This IS my go-to game, my backyard, Momma's street.
Right now we're at the point where Lothran is soon to leave Bruma and still after all these years I feel excited for it! Can't wait to get down from the mountains and see the wonderous green forest again and meet all the other people! And it's the same for when Lothran is about to go to Bruma at the end of November.


Oblivion is my game, Cyrodiil my home and Lothran my brother-in-arms. And I wouldn't want it any other way.

Posted by: Acadian Feb 14 2021, 01:37 PM

And here's wishing many more years ahead and together for mirocu and Lothran! happy.gif

Posted by: Renee Feb 14 2021, 05:41 PM

I thought DOOM 3 was your game!

Kidding. That great, Crow. cake.gif The date and time of my first ever Oblivion playthrough are burned into my mind: October 24, 2008 at 9:24 pm. Do you still have your first-ever Lothran save? If so, it might have a date, at least.


Posted by: mirocu Feb 14 2021, 10:04 PM

I do have that save but it's in a library so not in my current list. I can dig it up though if I really want to know.

Posted by: Lena Wolf Mar 21 2023, 12:12 PM

https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/images/180091 biggrin.gif

Posted by: Acadian Mar 21 2023, 12:58 PM

cake.gif

Posted by: Renee Mar 21 2023, 03:33 PM

Phew, nice job, Lena! March 21st actually crossed my mind yesterday but I've been too preoccupied today.

Posted by: mirocu Mar 21 2023, 05:06 PM

cake.gif goodjob.gif

Posted by: macole Mar 21 2023, 06:21 PM

cake.gif it's been one long party.

Posted by: Lena Wolf Mar 21 2023, 06:57 PM

I have an idea for a memory mod - a photo album. It will be compatible with every kind of Oblivion, a book to be found in-game. Renoir Books in Chorrol will have it. "Heroes of our time" or some such. biggrin.gif Better suggestions for the title welcome!

After all, 17 is coming of age in many cultures.

So, I ask of you to post here a good screenshot of your character that could work as a portrait and write a paragraph about your character. Short enough to fit on a page in an Oblivion book. Or else I'll have to trim it. ohmy.gif

I'll do the rest. Let's have a year book. biggrin.gif

You can post several characters, of course!

Posted by: mirocu Mar 21 2023, 07:22 PM

https://i.imgur.com/e83kvSs.jpg


An Adventurer by class and trade, Lothran roams around Cyrodiil. 16 years and counting there is still no end in sight.

Posted by: Renee Mar 22 2023, 04:48 AM

Oh gosh. See, mirocu's got it easy! (So does Acadian). Both of you are married to your one, whereas folks like I like to play the field. tongue.gif

I'm actually kind of drunk right now, but I love this idea. I'll post a bunch of pics tomorrow when I'm more sober!


Posted by: Lena Wolf Mar 22 2023, 11:05 AM

I think it could be fun. Also, because the mod is going to be so very simple (just one book), it can be easily converted to other games. Wink wink Ghastley! biggrin.gif

Posted by: Renee Mar 23 2023, 01:39 AM

I will come back to this idea at some point, Lena. Thing is, I'm out of touch with all my OB guys & gals at the moment because I haven't been playing TES 4 much over the past couple years.

For me to do it right means going back to some of my really early people, like Renee Gade II and Dyan phor a'Cauz and Luci Pheria. I used to write a LOT about them (and newer chars) in the old forums, couldn't shut me up sometimes! I just need to find some of those old threads. 📚 I want to add what I wrote when my mind was still fresh with new-character activity.


Posted by: TheCheshireKhajiit Jul 31 2023, 11:10 PM

Didn’t really know where to put this, but this seemed as good a place as any. So, apparently, there is a rumor going around that an official remake/remaster of Oblivion is in production. All of this sounds kinda iffy to me, but I thought I’d share it.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ejgvk1NcMU&t=90s&pp=ygUkdGhlIGVsZGVyIHNjcm9sbHMgNCBvYmxpdmlvbiByZW1ha2Ug

Posted by: macole Jul 31 2023, 11:46 PM

That would really be interesting if they would include The Ayleid Steps and The Lost Spires mod as essential additions.

Posted by: Acadian Jul 31 2023, 11:54 PM

Well, Oblivion is definitely my favorite among TES III, IV, V and I'd certainly welcome a significant facelift to it. smile.gif

Posted by: Lena Wolf Aug 1 2023, 12:08 AM

Iffy indeed. Most footage is just Skyrim. I don't believe a word of it. Besides, it is no longer Oblivion.

Posted by: TheCheshireKhajiit Aug 1 2023, 12:45 PM

QUOTE(macole @ Jul 31 2023, 05:46 PM) *

That would really be interesting if they would include The Ayleid Steps and The Lost Spires mod as essential additions.

I’m not familiar with these mods, but it’d be quite a pleasant surprise to me if they added mods as official content.

QUOTE(Acadian @ Jul 31 2023, 05:54 PM) *

Well, Oblivion is definitely my favorite among TES III, IV, V and I'd certainly welcome a significant facelift to it. smile.gif

It’s not my favorite, but I would definitely be interested in a facelift as well!

QUOTE(Lena Wolf @ Jul 31 2023, 06:08 PM) *

Iffy indeed. Most footage is just Skyrim. I don't believe a word of it. Besides, it is no longer Oblivion.

Same. I’ll believe more when I see more.

Posted by: mirocu Aug 1 2023, 03:27 PM

Isn't Skyblivion doing this exact thing?

Posted by: TheCheshireKhajiit Aug 1 2023, 04:09 PM

QUOTE(mirocu @ Aug 1 2023, 09:27 AM) *

Isn't Skyblivion doing this exact thing?

Not really. That is just remaking Oblivion in Skyrim’s engine. This is supposedly going to keep the original Gamebryo engine for gameplay and physics while working in tandem with Unreal Engine 5 for visuals and audio. I don’t know enough about game engines to know how this would work, but supposedly it is being done with other games. So basically, it’s regular ol’ Oblivion just prettier and sounding better. I will repeat that I’ll believe it when I see it.

Posted by: macole Aug 1 2023, 04:20 PM

QUOTE(mirocu @ Aug 1 2023, 09:27 AM) *

Isn't Skyblivion doing this exact thing?

With the Skyrim engine, yes. This one says it will use a blending or pairing of the Oblivion engine and the Unreal Engine 5 project. I have no idea how that can be done or what it will eventually look like.

My thought; Bethesda is going to milk Starfield for all is worth and Microsoft fearing lagging market says, "Do something, ten years is too long to wait for a new TES release".

Posted by: TheCheshireKhajiit Aug 1 2023, 04:24 PM

QUOTE(macole @ Aug 1 2023, 10:20 AM) *

My thought; Bethesda is going to milk Starfield for all is worth and Microsoft fearing lagging market says, "Do something, ten years is too long to wait for a new TES release".

If this remake business is true, I think that could be very likely.

Posted by: Renee Aug 2 2023, 01:17 PM

I couldn't watch that video for more than a few seconds, the guy speaking is too hyper! (bla bubblblublubl bla bla bla bla bla... ) but from what I gathered, it sounds like some other studio or team got mentioned?

I'm not seeing this as an official Bethesda project; it's not their style to be involved with remakes or remasters for those older games. When they first announce a new game or project, they've been in the habit of making some sort of overt & definitive statement. Elder Scrolls VI has that teaser video, for instance. Skyrim got a remaster sure, but that's only because they made a 64 bit version of it (and secretly so...) from the get go.

Starfield's about to get released, which means they're going to be spending the next 2 or 3 years making patches & DLC for that, and then VI comes next, presumably. So IF an official Oblivion remake is going to occur, maybe it's getting subcontracted to some other studio, the way Oblivion on PS3 was handled by 4J Studios.

It's funny this thread got brought up. Next week will be my 10 year anniversary of Fallout 3! ☢


Posted by: TheCheshireKhajiit Aug 2 2023, 02:04 PM

QUOTE(Renee @ Aug 2 2023, 07:17 AM) *

I couldn't watch that video for more than a few seconds, the guy speaking is too hyper! (bla bubblblublubl bla bla bla bla bla... ) but from what I gathered, it sounds like some other studio or team got mentioned?

I'm not seeing this as an official Bethesda project; it's not their style to be involved with remakes or remasters for those older games. When they first announce a new game or project, they've been in the habit of making some sort of overt & definitive statement. Elder Scrolls VI has that teaser video, for instance. Skyrim got a remaster sure, but that's only because they made a 64 bit version of it (and secretly so...) from the get go.

Starfield's about to get released, which means they're going to be spending the next 2 or 3 years making patches & DLC for that, and then VI comes next, presumably. So IF an official Oblivion remake is going to occur, maybe it's getting subcontracted to some other studio, the way Oblivion on PS3 was handled by 4J Studios.

It's funny this thread got brought up. Next week will be my 10 year anniversary of Fallout 3! ☢

If the reports are legitimate, it definitely is being subcontracted out to a company called Virtous. I’ve never heard of them, but then, unless they are a big name or associated with something I’m interested in, I wouldn’t have. It’s not a Bethesda project, I’m sure it was instigated by Micro$oft, seeing that there maybe a market for it. That is, of course, if all of this is even true.

Posted by: Lena Wolf Aug 2 2023, 02:28 PM

So then this is going to be like one of those Fallout games that got made by Obsidian. Looks similar, feels different and is full of bugs. tongue.gif

The footage that we see in that "Bethesda" video is Skyrim, pure and simple. Look at how magic works, what animations they are using, how combat works. This isn't Oblivion. An Ayleid ruin that looks like a Dwemer ruin from Skyrim? Gosh... You couldn't have a worse nightmare if you even tried. It's just a hotchpotch of Skyrim features with a subsript "Mythic Dawn Agent" on a simple Skyrim necromancer. And of course a 100% native Skyrim HUD. Is there anything left in there that is in fact Oblivion?

Personally I think that video is a hoax. Footage of modded Skyrim.

And by the way, how it looks - this isn't Unreal engine either.

Posted by: TheCheshireKhajiit Aug 2 2023, 03:18 PM

QUOTE(Lena Wolf @ Aug 2 2023, 08:28 AM) *

So then this is going to be like one of those Fallout games that got made by Obsidian. Looks similar, feels different and is full of bugs. tongue.gif

The footage that we see in that "Bethesda" video is Skyrim, pure and simple. Look at how magic works, what animations they are using, how combat works. This isn't Oblivion. An Ayleid ruin that looks like a Dwemer ruin from Skyrim? Gosh... You couldn't have a worse nightmare if you even tried. It's just a hotchpotch of Skyrim features with a subsript "Mythic Dawn Agent" on a simple Skyrim necromancer. And of course a 100% native Skyrim HUD. Is there anything left in there that is in fact Oblivion?

Personally I think that video is a hoax. Footage of modded Skyrim.

And by the way, how it looks - this isn't Unreal engine either.

It’s no hoax, the gameplay footage shown in the video is 100% from the mod, Skyblivion, which uses Skyrim’s engine with custom made assets to attemp to “recreate” Oblivion. Nobody has any footage (as far as I’ve seen) of this supposed remake, let alone any solid proof that it is actually in production. He’s just playing the Skyblivion footage in the background since that is the closest thing we have to the subject matter of the video. I don’t think he ever claimed it was actual footage from this “remake”, unless I missed something.

Posted by: Lena Wolf Aug 2 2023, 04:30 PM

I see, Skyblivion certainly makes sense! I am sorry I could not get through his speech either, so turned off the sound pretty much immediately. I took the footage to be that of the new remake. My mistake.

Posted by: TheCheshireKhajiit Aug 2 2023, 04:38 PM

No need to apologize! I just want to make sure everyone has the most correct information. smile.gif

As a side note, I didn’t have a problem with it, but is the guy’s speech really that bad? Lol, I’ll make sure not to link his video’s in the future.

Posted by: Lena Wolf Aug 2 2023, 05:01 PM

QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Aug 2 2023, 04:38 PM) *

As a side note, I didn’t have a problem with it, but is the guy’s speech really that bad? Lol, I’ll make sure not to link his video’s in the future.

I think it is not just speech as such, but the combination of really fast moving picture, fast speech, tiny text and trying to get the sense of it... I could only do one at a time. biggrin.gif Probably just me getting old. wink.gif

Posted by: TheCheshireKhajiit Aug 2 2023, 05:10 PM

Ah, when taking it all at once I can see how that might be too much. Probably helps that I was just listening to it while working, lol

Posted by: Renee Aug 3 2023, 07:32 AM

QUOTE(Lena Wolf @ Aug 2 2023, 11:30 AM) *

I am sorry I could not get through his speech either, so turned off the sound pretty much immediately.


The same, this is how I feel too. The guy's all hyped up on some skooma or something. panic.gif And the gameplay's jerking all over the place like a cockroach on steroids... immediately gave me a headache.

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