TK's Mod Questions Thread, Got mod problems, or are you just lost with a tool? Options

[Renee]

WB just seemed to me to be overly complicated to set up and administer. I'm sure it's great and all and maybe I'll give it another go this time around but if I do it's not an experience I can see me looking forward too!
The thing is I would really benefit from using it as I do run a very mod-heavy game and it is, even with OMOD discipline, easy to lose track of stuff.

Yeah Phon, I remember you actually tear down your entire game after a character's story ends, right? You get rid of all your mods, and also all your saves and screenies, right? I think it was you.

I have WB installed on my computer, and it is useful for a few things, but I mostly use it for the A-bomb glitch. I tried making a bashed patch once and my game would instant CTD every time. No idea why. And I just figured "OBMM + BOSS works for me". I just stick with that. I haven't added any new mods to Oblivion in a long time, anyway.

This post has been edited by Renee: Nov 25 2016, 03:58 PM

[PhonAntiPhon]

Yeah Phon, I remember you actually tear down your entire game after a character's story ends, right? You get rid of all your mods, and also all your saves and screenies, right? I think it was you.

I have WB installed on my computer, and it is useful for a few things, but I mostly use it for the A-bomb glitch. I tried making a bashed patch once and my game would instant CTD every time. No idea why. And I just figured "OBMM + BOSS works for me". I just stick with that. I haven't added any new mods to Oblivion in a long time, anyway.

yeah that's me, everything tends to go at the end.
It's kind of a ritual, but later can be slightly annoying...!

You've just reminded me of that glitch, I need to drop a fix in...

[Renee]

yeah that's me, everything tends to go at the end.
It's kind of a ritual, but later can be slightly annoying...!

Annoying? I'd say it's gotta be intense. Cripes, I could tear down a game no prob, but getting rid of screenshots & saves? That's intense, d00d.

[SubRosa]

I tried WB once as well, and could not make any sense of it either. So I have always happily stuck with OBMM/FOMM for Oblivion, Skyrim, FO3, and NV.

The WB instructions did not help either. It said I have to install Python for it to work. So I went all the way to South America and wrangled a giant snake, but then Customs wouldn't let me bring it back into the country!

[TheCheshireKhajiit]

Khajiit installed Wrye Mash for Morrowind on an older laptop once. Man that was a pain in the butt! The worst part was figuring out how to get Python installed first. Now they have the simple standalone ones that you simply install to the game's root drive, lol

[Renee]

I wonder if getting Lopov's Rattler character would substitute for Python?



Seriously though, aren't there two different WB installers? I think the one with Python is for more serious modders? Something like that. Because I don't remember installing Wrye Bash to be that hard.

This post has been edited by Renee: Nov 26 2016, 02:23 PM

[TheCheshireKhajiit]

Yeah you can get the stand alone version which is a snap, then there is the one that you have to download Python first then Wrye Bash.

This post has been edited by TheCheshireKhajiit: Nov 26 2016, 06:11 PM

[PhonAntiPhon]

The WB instructions did not help either. It said I have to install Python for it to work. So I went all the way to South America and wrangled a giant snake, but then Customs wouldn't let me bring it back into the country!

I wonder if getting Lopov's Rattler character would substitute for Python?

Given how heavily modded my game is, I really should at least try to install it and get it set up...
Maybe once I've finished the mod I'm working on, then I'll do it...!

[Decrepit]

The WB instructions did not help either. It said I have to install Python for it to work. So I went all the way to South America and wrangled a giant snake, but then Customs wouldn't let me bring it back into the country!

I wonder if getting Lopov's Rattler character would substitute for Python?

Given how heavily modded my game is, I really should at least try to install it and get it set up...
Maybe once I've finished the mod I'm working on, then I'll do it...!

I swear by WB. That and BOSS (LOOT is better for Skyrim) along with TES4edit and TES4LODgen, used properly, will keep your installation purring (to the extent Oblivion ever purrs). Yeah, it has a steeper initial learning curve than its two competitors. (I used OBMM exclusively for almost the totality of my first play-through.) Worth the effort, in my opinion. The big hurtle is learning how to install your mods as BAIN packages. (Only a very few mods can't be converted, some come as specific BAIN packages, a great many install as if they were BAIN packages without modification.) Gotta admit some WB terminology threw me off at first. The biggest offended? What instructions constantly refer to as placing a Package higher or lower in the BAIN INSTALLERS tab I see as the opposite. Their lower is my higher and vice versa. But you might not have this issue. If your mods and load order are already established start simple. Get used to the Bashed-Patch. Then convert a mod that does not require loading ESMs/ESPs to BAIN (assuming it needs to be converted, many don't) and install it via the INSTALLERS TAB. A small scale texture replacer would be an excellent choice. If you mess those up it won't totally hose your game. Do those until you get a feel of what BAIN packages look like. It also helps to download and unpack a few COMPLEX BAIN PACKAGE mods. Looking at those in my file browser helped a lot.

At any rate I encourage you to get it a shot, and don't be discouraged if it throws you off at first. It'll come. Heck, I learned it. (The basics at any rate. I'm certainly no guru.)

[Renee]

I am looking for animal companion mods (Oblivion), and I could swear there have been some that feature birds, or maybe even bats? Any ideas?

This post has been edited by Renee: Jan 12 2017, 02:39 AM

[SubRosa]

There is Maigret's Raven Companion. The same person also made a bunch of other companion mods as well.

[Acadian]

SubRosa's mention of that mod reminds me. I used that one - and several other of Maigrets delightful companions. TocToc is recommended by me!

[Renee]

There is Maigret's Raven Companion. The same person also made a bunch of other companion mods as well.

Wow! wow! Woiw! Wow! Thanks! Perfect!

:hugs:

[ghastley]

That was in serious consideration for inclusion in Evergloam. I ended up just using Mr Siika's ravens circling over the gatehouse, as that was a free-to-use resource.

[mALX]

That was in serious consideration for inclusion in Evergloam. I ended up just using Mr Siika's ravens circling over the gatehouse, as that was a free-to-use resource.

I loved a lot of Mr Siika's resources; he had some amazing stuff in Oblivion!

[Renee]

Does anybody know why invisibility spells in Skyrim trigger people's hearing? And is there a way to turn this off.

Let me explain. My ice witch has 91 in Sneak, and can cast Muffle without anybody knowing. But if she casts Invisibility, enemies always notice, and immediately begin searching around, and they generally won't stop searching for a good, long while. By the time they do stop, it's usually almost time to cast another Invisibility spell. What's the point of being invisible then?

I wonder if there's a way to make casting Invisibility not so noticeable? I searched at Nexus, but the only mods I've seen so far overkill the game... they make the pc permanently invisible for instance, even if we activate something.

This post has been edited by Renee: Mar 7 2017, 12:21 AM

[SubRosa]

Does anybody know why invisibility spells in Skyrim trigger people's hearing? And is there a way to turn this off.

Let me explain. My ice witch has 91 in Sneak, and can cast Muffle without anybody knowing. But if she casts Invisibility, enemies always notice, and immediately begin searching around, and they generally won't stop searching for a good, long while. By the time they do stop, it's usually almost time to cast another Invisibility spell. What's the point of being invisible then?

I wonder if there's a way to make casting Invisibility not so noticeable? I searched at Nexus, but the only mods I've seen so far overkill the game... they make the pc permanently invisible for instance, even if we activate something.

It is because of a setting in the Magic Effect. Open the Ck and go to InvisibillityFFSelf. You will see a Casting Sound Level drop down box on the right of the window. It is normally set to Loud. That is what attracts attention when you cast it. Change it to Silent and NPCs should not notice it.

[Renee]

Ninja'd! Yes, thank you SubRosa, I figured this out and was coming here to edit my earlier post. That's an easy fix.

[Renee]

Hi. I really want to make the Dawnstar Sanctuary darker. I tried going into the CK, going into the Cell window and into Dawnstar's sanctuary cell and deleting all the lightbulbs I could find. You know, I would highlight the yellow lightbulb symbol, right-click > delete it. Doesn't seem to have made any difference though, any ideas why?

This post has been edited by Renee: Mar 17 2017, 10:00 PM

[Acadian]

I sure hope someone who knows more than I comes along to help. That said. . .

King Coin made Buffy a custom apartment in the Mystic Archives long ago and I recall it being too bright. King Coin coached me through dimming it down. As I recall, the answer was not individual light sources but adjusting the overall lighting in the space. I'm really sorry that I just don't remember any more detail though. The only thing I can offer is to look for an overall setting for the cell.