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post Oct 28 2014, 01:06 AM
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QUOTE(mirocu @ Oct 27 2014, 04:13 PM) *

So what you´re saying is since I´m used to Lothran carrying very little stuff around that´s why I noticed the difference?



Technically, I don't knowhow much he carries around usually; so I'll use Maxical VS an Orc skilled in heavy armor as examples. Maxical has never even broken novice in Heavy armor, and the weight of all her weapons combined never is over 30 pounds TOPS. So if she carries one 20-40 pound weapon she really feels it. It makes her probably as slow as if she had gone armed with any light weapon.

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An Orc skilled in heavy armor is not slowed by an armor of 250-300 pounds plus a hammer weighing 100 pounds - that's why it is good to either build up both light and heavy armor (I've never been able to do it, can't stand the slow down heavy armor gives) - or stick with your weight class, and that includes your weapons - which is what I've always done.

If you want a good bow that is light, use a conjured bow (Daedric, ignores armor resistance) - and it weighs ZERO!






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post Oct 28 2014, 05:51 PM
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Lothran usually carries around about 50 (?) but his Strength is 100.

Well, I guess I have to accept the bow as Heavy Armour then. Seems we don´t get any further anyway now smile.gif


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post Oct 28 2014, 06:02 PM
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My curiosity did eventually get the better of me, and I looked them up in the CS. There are no scripts attached to it that could be causing it. It is essentially a Steel Bow with a different name, but actually weighs a few pounds less. Go figure. Of course as it has been pointed out, you cannot set it to be heavy or light or no armor in the CS, because as a weapon, those categories don't exist for it.

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post Oct 28 2014, 06:09 PM
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Strange. It was obvious enough for me to notice and when I experimented with it the difference in Lothran´s walking speed was indisputable. But still there is no explanation for it wacko.gif


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post Oct 29 2014, 06:04 PM
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Well, you won't have to send that rantmail, mirocu. Yesterday me and my little one took a little field trip to Bethesda's studios, which are about a half hour south from where we live. Managed to get inside the place. Got past security by claiming I had lost my paycheck; "No I'm not a programmer, I'm one of the cleaners," I said. Hey, it actually worked! .. Took awhile, but eventually we found the big guy's offices: yep, Todd Howard and Pete Hines. Stepped right up and said "LOOK blink.gif ... I demand money back for my friend mirocu's game!!! yeah that's right the mirocu, the one who's got one of the longest-lasting; characters in TES4 history!!! His game is broken. His character moves slightly slower with a black bow in hand now FIX this, goshdarnit!"

Well. Suffice it to say, this didn't go well. indifferent.gif Not only was I arrested and handcuffed in front of my own daughter, but we didn't get your money back. Sorry. On the plus side, I happen to know which game Bethesda is working on.

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post Oct 29 2014, 06:09 PM
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Did they send you to the old Civil War prisoner of war camp at Point Lookout? laugh.gif


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post Oct 29 2014, 06:11 PM
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QUOTE(SubRosa @ Oct 29 2014, 01:09 PM) *

Did they send you to the old Civil War prisoner of war camp at Point Lookout? laugh.gif


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post Oct 29 2014, 07:39 PM
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QUOTE(Renee Gade IV @ Oct 29 2014, 01:04 PM) *

Well, you won't have to send that rantmail, mirocu. Yesterday me and my little one took a little field trip to Bethesda's studios, which are about a half hour south from where we live. Managed to get inside the place. Got past security by claiming I had lost my paycheck; "No I'm not a programmer, I'm one of the cleaners," I said. Hey, it actually worked! .. Took awhile, but eventually we found the big guy's offices: yep, Todd Howard and Pete Hines. Stepped right up and said "LOOK blink.gif ... I demand money back for my friend mirocu's game!!! yeah that's right the mirocu, the one who's got one of the longest-lasting; characters in TES4 history!!! His game is broken. His character moves slightly slower with a black bow in hand now FIX this, goshdarnit!"

Well. Suffice it to say, this didn't go well. indifferent.gif Not only was I arrested and handcuffed in front of my own daughter, but we didn't get your money back. Sorry. On the plus side, I happen to know which game Bethesda is working on.

hehe.gif



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post Oct 29 2014, 08:06 PM
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Once again you managed to crack us up, Renee. And you didn´t even had to write about one of your characters! laugh.gif


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post Oct 29 2014, 09:43 PM
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QUOTE(Renee Gade IV @ Oct 29 2014, 01:04 PM) *

Not only was I arrested and handcuffed in front of my own daughter, but we didn't get your money back.

If they'd known it was really you, they'd have used electrical tape, instead. biggrin.gif


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post Oct 29 2014, 10:14 PM
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Renee! I have this crystal clear vision of Todd Howard calling for security, quickly followed by the door busting down to reveal two armored Legion soldiers: "STOP RIGHT THERE, CRIMINAL SCUM! YOU VIOLATED THE LAW!" laugh.gif


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post Oct 30 2014, 12:19 AM
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QUOTE(Acadian @ Oct 29 2014, 05:14 PM) *

Renee! I have this crystal clear vision of Todd Howard calling for security, quickly followed by the door busting down to reveal two armored Legion soldiers: "STOP RIGHT THERE, CRIMINAL SCUM! YOU VIOLATED THE LAW!" laugh.gif



That's a Crystal Beth version to you, lol. OMG, Renee had me rolling! That made my day !!!


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post Oct 30 2014, 10:46 PM
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Awesomeness. Yeah, I can see Todd and Pete saying "STOP RIGHT THERE!" laugh.gif Good one, Acadian!

Back on topic (kinda) I gotta just say that I'm with Lady Saga now. She's got several bows on her horse: a black bow, a silver bow (gotta have silver), a Bow of Scorching (10 pts. fire damage), and a silver crossbow (mod). I like this variety. The crossbow is great for shorter-range attacks and packs a mean punch, while the other bows are easier to aim

Open question to all: What are your characters current bow choices, assuming you're playing Oblivion and have an archer?
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post Oct 31 2014, 04:01 AM
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Nocturnal's Bow of Shadows, until I had to give it back to Cyndil. Part of my mod as seen here - it's a retextured silver bow with some neat enchantments.


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post Oct 31 2014, 04:51 AM
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Shadowhunt, and I have one I custom enchanted that is nice - I think it is silver too. Maxical doesn't carry a bow often, or hit her target often with a bow either, but there are times when even she will carry one.



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post Oct 31 2014, 05:36 PM
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A self-enchanted Elven bow which does Shock damage.



Btw, thanks for (sort of) getting back on topic, Renee. You´ve shown great character improvement wink.gif

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post Nov 3 2014, 01:18 AM
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QUOTE(mirocu @ Oct 31 2014, 12:36 PM) *

Btw, thanks for (sort of) getting back on topic, Renee. You´ve shown great character improvement wink.gif

I'm pretty sure if I keep getting back on topic my Speechcraft skill will finally rise. wink.gif

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