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Posted by: mirocu Nov 25 2013, 12:00 PM
This topic came to mind when I was thinking about games, which I often do 
The hardest games I´ve ever played are all for the classic NES, Gameboy, Sega Mega Drive (Genesis) or just about any other console on which for the most part you cannot save wherever you want and come back to it another day. The only choices you had in order to see the later stages was either to put in a code or to sit through the whole game every time you wanted to make a try for them. For one thing I never bothered to sit through it all only to get to the hard parts where I would be too tired to succeed and secondly, I´ve never been good at timing. I hate games that only rely on timing your jumps n stuff.
So, what are the hardest games you´ve ever played?
Edit: I realize not being able to save isn´t what makes a game hard. I should have pointed out hard in terms of gameplay like the first stage in Back to the Future 3 on Sega Genesis, or games where one hit can knock you back into a pit like in Castlevania and Ninja Gaiden. Sorry for not being more clear 
Posted by: Colonel Mustard Nov 25 2013, 01:41 PM
No offence, but that doesn't really strike me as hard, that just strikes me as pointlessly obtuse and time-consuming.
For me, it would have to be Metro 2033/Last Light on Ranger Hardcore difficulty, where you've got to be dead careful with your ammo and really think your way around firefights, or Dark Souls, which is often just a case of pattern recognition.
Posted by: Callidus Thorn Nov 25 2013, 02:28 PM
No offence, but that doesn't really strike me as hard, that just strikes me as pointlessly obtuse and time-consuming.
I'd have to agree on that front.
For me, it would have to be Metro 2033/Last Light on Ranger Hardcore difficulty, where you've got to be dead careful with your ammo and really think your way around firefights
Hmm, I might have to look into those.
Dark Souls, which is often just a case of pattern recognition.
Up until you lose focus for half a second and get killed. Or it just kills you to make sure you're still paying attention. I love that game.
I'd have to say Oblivion, in all honesty, just because of my lengthy list of dead characters. Though I suppose playing Dead is Dead means it's self inflicted difficulty.
Dragon's Dogma; for the postgame bit where everything goes dark and evil. That was hellish.
The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask; that 3 day time limit.
Posted by: mirocu Nov 25 2013, 03:47 PM
My definition of hard as "not being able to save" maybe wasn´t fair in all honestly. I just tried to make a point 
Many of the NES games really are hard in terms of gameplay. Many jumps requires you to stand on the absolute edge of the last pixel or otherwise you won´t make it. And some games combined hard gameplay with only three lives and no continues which is too much for me even today
Try out Street Fighter 2010 and tell me that game is easy
Posted by: Rohirrim Nov 25 2013, 05:08 PM
Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate. Oof. Getting not too bad, but man, those freaking bosses. 
Posted by: ghastley Nov 25 2013, 05:53 PM
Just google for "Nintendo hard" - says it all. Some games were intended for arcade machines, and had ways to prevent you playing too long without "putting in another coin".
Posted by: Kiln Nov 25 2013, 07:07 PM
No offence, but that doesn't really strike me as hard, that just strikes me as pointlessly obtuse and time-consuming.
For me, it would have to be Metro 2033/Last Light on Ranger Hardcore difficulty, where you've got to be dead careful with your ammo and really think your way around firefights, or Dark Souls, which is often just a case of pattern recognition.
I'm with you. Although the hardest part of Metro Last Light was when I beat it on Ranger Hardcore and didn't get the achievement. Accepting that a tech glitch hosed me out of my online merit badge for playing through the most challenging game I've ever played was pretty difficult.
Still love the game and Metro 2033 did the same thing to me. I ended up randomly getting the achievement like two weeks later while I was playing something else.
Posted by: King Of Beasts Nov 25 2013, 08:46 PM
Mario. It'll always be the hardest [censored] game in existence lol
Assasin's creed was pretty hard too.
Posted by: mirocu Nov 25 2013, 09:49 PM
Mario. It'll always be the hardest [censored] game in existence lol
Well, it doesn´t make it easier that the princess is always in another friggin castle!
Shadowgate (NES) was pretty hard, at least for me. Figuring out where to find and use everything and how to fit the pieces together wasn´t so easy first time. And anyone without prior knowledge of the game who tells me they´ve played through it and not died once is a liar, pure and simple!
Posted by: stargelman Nov 26 2013, 07:20 AM
Ultima VIII.
It was exceedingly hard to muster the will to continue to play it with all the bugs and stupid jump action (think jumping onto moving platforms hovering over lava with controls that only let you jump in one of four directions with a purely random jump length).
That aside, I'd say Deus Ex. Depending on how you play it, it can be forbiddingly difficult.
Posted by: mirocu Nov 26 2013, 10:42 AM
That aside, I'd say Deus Ex. Depending on how you play it, it can be forbiddingly difficult.
Really? It does have a few hard moments but I never found it to be hard. Did you do a non-lethal playthrough?
Haven´t played it myself, but Dragon´s Lair for the NES. Insanely hard!
Posted by: ImperialSnob Nov 26 2013, 02:30 PM
Assasin's creed was pretty hard too.
Counter,counter,counter,counter,counter,counter,counter,hide,wait.
Yeah,that's not that hard.
Posted by: Callidus Thorn Nov 26 2013, 03:30 PM
Assasin's creed was pretty hard too.
Counter,counter,counter,counter,counter,counter,counter,hide,wait.
Yeah,that's not that hard.
Well, there were those moments when the sometimes dodgy camera angles and the occasionally overly-finicky controls decided you weren't pointing in quite the right direction(0.1 degree out) and launched you off in completely the wrong direction, possibly to your doom.
But outside of that, yeah, challenge wasn't one of it's strong points.
Posted by: Colonel Mustard Nov 27 2013, 12:01 AM
Considering that I just spent a good chunk of the last hour and a half being massacred by Geth, I feel that I should probably add Mass Effect 2 on veteran difficulty to this list. Damn, but that Colossus boss fight is tough...
Posted by: Renee Gade IV Nov 27 2013, 02:22 PM
My definition of hard as "not being able to save" maybe wasn´t fair in all honestly. I just tried to make a point
Many of the NES games really are hard in terms of gameplay. Many jumps requires you to stand on the absolute edge of the last pixel or otherwise you won´t make it. And some games combined hard gameplay with only three lives and no continues which is too much for me even today
Yup, this. Those old-school games were harsh in terms like this. Kids today don't know how easy they've got it.
My answer: Tomb Raider III.
Posted by: Kiln Nov 27 2013, 09:46 PM
My definition of hard as "not being able to save" maybe wasn´t fair in all honestly. I just tried to make a point
Many of the NES games really are hard in terms of gameplay. Many jumps requires you to stand on the absolute edge of the last pixel or otherwise you won´t make it. And some games combined hard gameplay with only three lives and no continues which is too much for me even today
Yup, this. Those old-school games were harsh in terms like this. Kids today don't know how easy they've got it.
I for one am glad that those days are over. I remember leaving my Nintendo on for days at a time in order to keep it from resetting all of my progress.
Posted by: mirocu Nov 27 2013, 09:56 PM
I for one am glad that those days are over. I remember leaving my Nintendo on for days at a time in order to keep it from resetting all of my progress.
I´m definitely with you on this! It´s not about difficulty per say however and I shouldn´t have opened up this thread with that
I´ve mentioned that I have Mr Gimmick, a rare NES game. What I haven´t said is that it is a very, very difficult game to play. It requires good timing and mastering some very tricky moves. The monsters come after you (they don´t just wander around like goombas) and if you want the good ending you need to collect six different artifacts. All are hidden very well and to find them isn´t easy at all. Oh, and if you die and use the continue feature even once, you cannot get the good ending even if you get all six artifacts!
Posted by: mirocu Nov 29 2013, 09:32 AM
New challenge: I dare anyone to play Silver Surfer on the NES. If that´s not a hard game for you, you definitely have my respect!
Oh, and no turbo controller! 
Posted by: Kiln Nov 29 2013, 09:55 AM
Pshhht. Try out Fester's Quest. Then when it breaks you and makes you wish it didn't exist, remember that I've beaten it. This horrid playing and excruciatingly challenging game was part of my childhood.
Posted by: mirocu Nov 29 2013, 09:59 AM
Oh, yeah. Fester´s Quest is another abomniation 
And you´ve beaten it!!?? 
Damn, R-E-S-P-E-C-T, man
Now go and play Silver Surfer, the game where you have no life bar and where you´re not allowed to touch anything 
Or why not play Ghost n´ Goblins? Not a too easy game either
Posted by: ImperialSnob Nov 29 2013, 05:12 PM
Dr.Jekyll and Mr.Hyde on the NES
Posted by: mirocu Nov 29 2013, 05:13 PM
Dr.Jekyll and Mr.Hyde on the NES
Oh, yeah!
Some games really are too much, especially for little kids!
Posted by: ImperialSnob Nov 29 2013, 05:14 PM
Dr.Jekyll and Mr.Hyde on the NES
Oh, yeah!
Some games really are too much, especially for little kids!
I'm 13 for pete's sake!
Posted by: mirocu Nov 29 2013, 05:19 PM
Dr.Jekyll and Mr.Hyde on the NES
Oh, yeah!
Some games really are too much, especially for little kids!
I'm 13 for pete's sake!
Sigh. Once again I didn´t mean anyone here. I meant some games are way too hard considering they´re meant for kids (from 7 and up), I didn´t mean you specifically.
Sometimes I think I should just stop making posts here. Everyone seems to think I take shots at them all the time and that I´m being serious
Posted by: ImperialSnob Nov 29 2013, 05:20 PM
Dr.Jekyll and Mr.Hyde on the NES
Oh, yeah!
Some games really are too much, especially for little kids!
I'm 13 for pete's sake!
Sigh. Once again I didn´t mean anyone here. I meant some games are way too hard considering they´re meant for kids, I didn´t mean you specifically.
Sometimes I think I should just stop making posts here. Everyone seems to think I take shots at them all the time
My mistake mirocu,please forgive me.
Posted by: mirocu Nov 29 2013, 05:27 PM
That´s ok
Posted by: Kiln Nov 29 2013, 09:50 PM
Dr.Jekyll and Mr.Hyde on the NES
Oh, yeah!
Some games really are too much, especially for little kids!
I'm 13 for pete's sake!
Sometimes I think I should just stop making posts here. Everyone seems to think I take shots at them all the time and that I´m being serious
Nobody leaves. I will hunt anyone down that attempts to exit these forums and drag them back. Except for almost everyone who leaves.
Anyways this thread has inspired me. I think I need to buy an old school NES system (mine gave out years ago) and play some of these games over again. My NES collection is like 40+ games.
Posted by: mirocu Nov 29 2013, 09:54 PM
this thread has inspired me. I think I need to buy an old school NES system (mine gave out years ago) and play some of these games over again. My NES collection is like 40+ games.
40+ games!??
You gotta, oh please you gotta give me a full list!!!
I still have my original NES console in full working condition. Surprising really, considering how many games me and my brother have played on it!
I never had Silver Surfer or Dr Jekyll and mr Hyde but I´ve seen footage on youtube and those games are not kind ones
Posted by: stargelman Nov 30 2013, 12:19 AM
Everyone seems to think I take shots at them all the time and that I´m being serious
My dear Mirocu, I'd NEVER think that!
To answer your question, yes I tried a non-lethal playthrough. I do know it's possible, but it is hard. It would be easy if you had unlimited bio energy, you could just get an invisibility mod (IMHO beats the radar cloak, especially if you can just snipe off cameras) and you'd be good to go. But of course it doesn't work like that. And getting close enough to people to knock them out can be difficult. And if you should them with one of the rare tranq darts, they do take a while to drop. But I have to admit I occasionally enjoy the challenge
Posted by: Kiln Nov 30 2013, 12:21 AM
this thread has inspired me. I think I need to buy an old school NES system (mine gave out years ago) and play some of these games over again. My NES collection is like 40+ games.
40+ games!??
You gotta, oh please you gotta give me a full list!!!
I still have my original NES console in full working condition. Surprising really, considering how many games me and my brother have played on it!
I never had Silver Surfer or Dr Jekyll and mr Hyde but I´ve seen footage on youtube and those games are not kind ones
To be fair part of them are duplicates because my brother had a NES as well. They're all in storage because I haven't had a working system in so long. Unfortunately there are several small parts that stop working inside them that lead to power flashing off/on and or randomly cutting out/freezing. On a console that you can't save your game on it is more than a little annoying.
Also, I just read that there are over 700 titles on the NES. I never would have guessed there were so many.
How much does a NES go for now anyways?
Posted by: mirocu Nov 30 2013, 09:48 AM
How much does a NES go for now anyways?
It varies alot depending on condition and such of course, but a good one here can go for about 400-500 up to over 1000 crowns. Don´t know what that is in dollar, though...
The Castlevania games. What makes these games so hard is one simple thing; when you get hit you fly backwards like ten feet and there´s always a pit behind you nullifying your full health bar
Posted by: mirocu Dec 7 2013, 12:37 PM
I´d like to mention the Point Lookout DLC. What makes it hard is the enemies that deal much more damage than anything in the Capital Wasteland. The DLC itself may not be that hard but the enemies make it hard to survive at least. I´ve never spammed so many stimpaks as when I got to that place!
And also, Arena. Since your character start out so weak it can be very difficult to survive in the beginning. Haven´t played it through since I´m concentrating on leveling up so I can´t say if the MQ is difficult or not. I´ve heard though that some dungeons can be somewhat hard to find the right way through.
Posted by: Bolzmania Dec 23 2013, 10:28 PM
I´d like to mention the Point Lookout DLC. What makes it hard is the enemies that deal much more damage than anything in the Capital Wasteland. The DLC itself may not be that hard but the enemies make it hard to survive at least. I´ve never spammed so many stimpaks as when I got to that place!
I got the same impression from that DLC.
Posted by: mirocu Dec 29 2013, 10:50 AM
Can´t believe I haven´t mentioned Shadowgate for the NES. It´s simply the greatest game I´ve ever played on this system, it has an atmosphere that´s undiscribably good.
But it´s also very hard and it´s so easy to die in this game. You think that sword is your primary weapon? Try and use it and think again Unless you know exactly what to do at any given moment, you´re gonna see the Grim Reaper. Some puzzles are pretty hard to solve and sometimes you just have to figure out by trial and error what works and what doesn´t. Though most of the time you can figure it out if you examine the items and environments closely enough.
Very good game but also very hard, at least it was for me. Though as long as you remember the whole game you could probably go through it without dying once. But stay on your toe, the slightest slip of your mind could mean your last!
Posted by: mirocu Jan 28 2014, 11:11 PM
I seriously hate the jumping control and landing detection in the Simpsons games...
So hard to make the mark and those platforms are so tiny!
Posted by: mirocu Feb 25 2014, 09:11 AM
Another game with a very bad jumping and platform landing detection which makes it hard to play is Ice Climber. Fun game but oh god, is it hard to make a jump! Funny enough, apparently the same guys who coded that game also coded Super Mario Bros which had great jumping.
The clouds on the higher levels also move so fast and the jumping being so bad doesn´t really help then But it´s still a fun game
Posted by: mirocu Mar 7 2014, 05:55 PM
Tried to play through Days of Thunder, frustratingly hard game even now. Made it through second to last stage but by that time I had not won a single race and my sponsor pulled out, i.e Game Over. Last stage would have been the first stage again though.
I was placed third in total so that´s something anyway and finally I had made a serious effort to play it through. Never did that when I was a kid so it was due
Posted by: Cardboard Box Jun 14 2014, 09:31 AM
NaissanceE. In particular, the third map, 'Breath Compression'. Trying to time a race through a linear set of rotating fan blades and commutators so that you get to safety before the air currents pick up and suck you to your death. Over. And over. Again. I ended up using the cheats to get past that one.
Actually, on reflection, NaissanceE was terribly disappointing. It promised us ('Going Down') a huge and strange world to explore and get lost in, but you ended up being railroaded through just a sliver of it.
Posted by: Jacki Dice Jul 5 2014, 02:51 AM
Dead Space.
However, I may have brought that on myself. There's an achievement if you go the whole game with only the gun you get in the beginning. I decided I wanted it on my first play through. That was a very bad idea, though I did finally get that achievement!
Posted by: mirocu Jul 5 2014, 04:17 PM
Dead Space.
However, I may have brought that on myself. There's an achievement if you go the whole game with only the gun you get in the beginning. I decided I wanted it on my first play through. That was a very bad idea, though I did finally get that achievement!
Wasn´t that challenge better suited for the second playthrough?
Posted by: Jacki Dice Jul 5 2014, 05:34 PM
Dead Space.
However, I may have brought that on myself. There's an achievement if you go the whole game with only the gun you get in the beginning. I decided I wanted it on my first play through. That was a very bad idea, though I did finally get that achievement!
Wasn´t that challenge better suited for the second playthrough?
It would have been. I got so mad. It took me ages to beat it and my husband finished in under a week because he was using the better weapons. >.>
Posted by: Kiln Jul 5 2014, 08:48 PM
Dark Souls. Got it because they gave it away free on Xbox Live. Definitely a difficult game. To the extent of not being any fun. Entertaining for a brief time perhaps but it gets annoying getting repeatedly killed by 1-2 enemies while trying to progress a level. Even the training (ringing the bells in the first map) is so brutal it takes hours to complete and it is a relatively small area.
Posted by: mirocu Nov 22 2014, 11:45 AM
Kid Icarus for the NES. I just can´t get past the first level! 
Posted by: Uleni Athram Dec 18 2014, 01:51 AM
Playing Starcraft in my laptop.
Without a mouse.
G'yeah, boy, wassup wit y'all.
Posted by: mirocu Dec 18 2014, 06:26 PM
Lol. You just changed the way you play
Posted by: Destri Melarg Dec 18 2014, 11:17 PM
Dark Souls. Got it because they gave it away free on Xbox Live. Definitely a difficult game. To the extent of not being any fun. Entertaining for a brief time perhaps but it gets annoying getting repeatedly killed by 1-2 enemies while trying to progress a level. Even the training (ringing the bells in the first map) is so brutal it takes hours to complete and it is a relatively small area.
This. So, so, so this!
Posted by: King Of Beasts Jan 13 2015, 10:17 PM
Dark Souls. Got it because they gave it away free on Xbox Live. Definitely a difficult game. To the extent of not being any fun. Entertaining for a brief time perhaps but it gets annoying getting repeatedly killed by 1-2 enemies while trying to progress a level. Even the training (ringing the bells in the first map) is so brutal it takes hours to complete and it is a relatively small area.
This speaks to me on a spiritual level
Posted by: hazmick Jan 27 2015, 10:14 PM
Dark Souls. Got it because they gave it away free on Xbox Live. Definitely a difficult game. To the extent of not being any fun. Entertaining for a brief time perhaps but it gets annoying getting repeatedly killed by 1-2 enemies while trying to progress a level. Even the training (ringing the bells in the first map) is so brutal it takes hours to complete and it is a relatively small area.
That is my exact experience with Dark Souls ahaha. After a while you just lose the will to try again.
State of Decay is pretty difficult. If a character dies then you better hope you have some other high level backups, especially later in the game when there are loads of really tough zombies. Fantastic game though
Posted by: Kiln Jan 27 2015, 10:40 PM
Dark Souls. Got it because they gave it away free on Xbox Live. Definitely a difficult game. To the extent of not being any fun. Entertaining for a brief time perhaps but it gets annoying getting repeatedly killed by 1-2 enemies while trying to progress a level. Even the training (ringing the bells in the first map) is so brutal it takes hours to complete and it is a relatively small area.
That is my exact experience with Dark Souls ahaha. After a while you just lose the will to try again.
State of Decay is pretty difficult. If a character dies then you better hope you have some other high level backups, especially later in the game when there are loads of really tough zombies. Fantastic game though
Agreed on State of Decay. Great game all around and IMO one of the few zombie games worth playing.
Posted by: mirocu Jan 28 2015, 09:32 AM
Tetris is kinda hard when it speeds up...
Posted by: Uleni Athram Aug 10 2015, 01:27 AM
This bizzare game called Real Life. Sometimes it's so exceedingly unfair that I want to rage quit and mess everyone around me's experience! Grrrr...
Suicidal silliness aside, post-game Dragon's Dogma. Don't get me started on Bitterblack Isle. Oh, and they're making a new MMO-ish title where you can play with other three players. That should be fun. And nerve-wracking.
Posted by: McBadgere Aug 10 2015, 04:37 AM
One joyous thing about my attitude to games is this...
If it's hard, it's not enjoyable...
That is a personal opinion...and how I feel...So any negative wossnames launched at that will be ignored... ...
Basically, RL is challenge enough for me...So if something is too challenging, then it just gets left alone...I will try a couple of times, but if it can't be done without much cursing and adrenaline-level-spiking then it gets put away...
Destiny's had a couple of moments where it got far too intense and left alone until McBoy finished it to the end of where it is at the moment and started taking the piss, so I had to do that...
But basically, most games with a difficulty slider gets put to the lowest or nearby setting as I really can't be arsed trying anymore...
So yeah, Obivion and Skyrim (and Fallout) are essentially God-Mode these days...
Posted by: mirocu Nov 28 2015, 03:05 PM
I have to mention Super Mario Bros 2, the real Super Mario Bros 2. It only came out in Japan and holy crap on a cracker does it look hard! 
Constant precision jumping while running and avoiding danger, often all at the same time, and again with that stupid time limit that only adds stress!
Still, would like to have it in my collection...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5apu4ML9Wto
Posted by: Dark Reaper May 23 2017, 03:52 AM
Zelda 2: The Adventure of Link. To this day I can't beat this game.
Alone in the Dark on the 360: I hate this game, the controls, camera and everything in this game sucks!!! The only thing I liked about it is was the episodic playback when you quit or continued a game, similar to how Battlefield Hardline does it.
Star Trek Tactical Assault on the PSP: This has got to be the first time I've played a game where the upgrading system seems to be in the game's enemy favor. No matter how well you use the credits to improve your ship the enemy always seems to be able to find away to exploit any weakness.
Posted by: TheCheshireKhajiit May 23 2017, 04:19 AM
Seems like there was a Ninja Turtles game on NES that was frickin ridiculous.
https://www.google.com/amp/kotaku.com/that-time-a-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtle-game-was-litera-1778291066/amp
Posted by: Dark Reaper May 23 2017, 04:44 AM
Seems like there was a Ninja Turtles game on NES that was frickin ridiculous.
https://www.google.com/amp/kotaku.com/that-time-a-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtle-game-was-litera-1778291066/amp
https://youtu.be/8oNuGxz_ykc
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Posted by: TheCheshireKhajiit May 23 2017, 05:12 AM
Seems like there was a Ninja Turtles game on NES that was frickin ridiculous.
https://www.google.com/amp/kotaku.com/that-time-a-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtle-game-was-litera-1778291066/amp
https://youtu.be/8oNuGxz_ykc
.Lol, that's exactly right!
Posted by: Crimson Paladin May 24 2017, 04:13 AM
Gothic 3. Mechanically, it had many difficulty elements that would later show up in Dark Souls- leveling up costs currency, enemies can easily swarm and stunlock you to death, drinking potions is real-time and can be interrupted, mage enemies can endlessly cast powerful homing attacks at you, some areas are pitch-black without some form of illumination- and then add into the mix a lack of a dodging mechanic, lousy blocking mechanics, bows and crossbows are slower to draw and reload, and the fact that armor is extremely hard to acquire.
Posted by: Lopov May 24 2017, 07:34 AM
I'm playing Manhunt for the first time. According to some reviews and forums in general, the game gets very hard though at early levels I can't say it's been that difficult. You just have to be very patient for hunters to come to "good" positions to kill. Fortunately, I'm quite a patient gamer.
Posted by: ghastley May 24 2017, 02:38 PM
It's OK for a game to require that you use a specific mechanic to get past a level, as long as it shows you that in advance, so you know what your options are. The worst games are the ones that throw a seemingly impossible situation at you, and you have to experiment through several reloads before you find the right one. You don't win those by skill, but by luck, which means they don't train any (player) skill, either. You have little sense of achievement if the outcome was essentially random.
Posted by: RaderOfTheLostArk May 31 2017, 07:10 PM
Arena was pretty brutal, actually. Definitely the hardest TES game I've played a significant amount of by far (although maybe Battlespire will be worse). Died in the Imperial dungeons in the beginning at least 25 times.
I have also played the original Castlevania. The difficulty in that game is just ridiculous. I also was able to play Super Mario Bros. all the way to World 8-4, but just could not get past it.
Posted by: Dark Reaper May 31 2017, 07:46 PM
I've had more difficulty with Daggerfall then I did with Arena mostly because of glitches. Morrowind has had its difficulty moments but nothing that can't be handled.
Posted by: Dark Reaper Nov 8 2017, 03:03 AM
One hard game I've tried to play was the original Metroid for the NES. I could never quite get into this game. I have played Metroid II: The Return of Samus, Super Metroid and the Metroid Prime Trilogy.
Posted by: RaderOfTheLostArk Nov 8 2017, 03:56 AM
How about just a particular hard mode?
My Castlevania experience is very limited, but the one I have played the most extensively by far was a relatively lesser known one that has received a fairly lukewarm reception: Lament of Innocence. I found it quite fun even if wasn't a particularly great game, but the normal mode is a bit too easy. In fact, I didn't die once on normal mode, even on the boss run you can do at the end. When you beat the game on normal, you unlock "crazy" mode, which is the super hard one. Remember, I never died on normal mode.
I DIED THREE TIMES ON THE [censored] TUTORIAL IN CRAZY MODE. LIKE, WHAT THE HELL? The disparity between normal and hard mode in the game was just so absurd! I didn't play much further than the tutorial on the higher difficulty. Good grief...
Posted by: Dark Reaper Nov 8 2017, 05:26 AM
How about just a particular hard mode?
Only game I've played on "Hard Mode" was Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Vegas and Vegas 2 on the Realistic setting. It doesn't change to much in terms of numbers of enemies and their AI but bullets aren't your friend and you can forget about point blank range, getting shot that close on realistic setting and you can guaranteed a revisit to your nearest checkpoint.
Posted by: TheCheshireKhajiit Nov 8 2017, 05:42 AM
Lately Khajiit has played a game called Player Unknown's Battlegrounds or PUBG as it's also known. Khajiit is terrible at this game, lol. It's so frustrating dying over and over again.
Posted by: King Of Beasts Nov 29 2017, 10:53 PM
Monster Party for the NES
Posted by: Dark Reaper Dec 31 2017, 01:29 PM
Doom VFR on the PS4. Not so much on the difficulty but rather hard to do no more then a couple of levels before getting motion sickness.
Posted by: Uleni Athram Jun 1 2018, 08:01 PM
Lately Khajiit has played a game called Player Unknown's Battlegrounds or PUBG as it's also known. Khajiit is terrible at this game, lol. It's so frustrating dying over and over again.
The tactics I usually employ in games like these are as follows:
1. Land in a place that is relatively barren. Be at the edge of the map if need be. You’ll have your pick of weapons and there’s usually a vehicle near every place so you won’t have to worry about dying of poison when the map shrinks.
2. Limit your own visibility and audio cues by crouch-running and crawling whenever possible. Also check your six, nine and basically every direction at regular intervals. Smart people like to do people from behind, and while that may sound dirty, it’s a legit strategy. You’ll be surprised how cunning and sneaky people can be.
2b. Not only should you be environmentally and situationally aware, you should also be paranoid as all hell. If you see something that clashes with the natural environment, there’s a 60/40 chance that’s not part of the scenery. Check it out with the scope of your gun; you’ll have the advantage of already aiming at it if it turns out to be an enemy. This is especially true in crappy mobile renditions of Battle Royale type of games — the pixels of character models are so easy to differentiate from the set pieces of the environment and I get sooooooo many kills off of it.
3. Use stun and smoke grenades. They’re criminally underused.
4. It may just be a personal thing, but unless the need is really important, I don’t recommend using cars. They’re so loud and it can tip people off whenever you’re driving to an inhabited building or village or whatever. Bikes are the worst.
5. Be a predator, not a warrior, at least until you’re confident enough to just pawn people left and right. Choose engagements really carefully and more often than not let people pass you by unmolested (if they don’t see you). Let them thin their own ranks. I won several games where I only had one kill, and that was the last guy in a 1v1 when 98 of the other players were dead lol
And that’s it tbh. I’m still a learning journeyman myself but I hope this’ll help you in the future, my good Cat Man Dude.
Posted by: Dark Reaper Jun 2 2018, 02:58 AM
Zelda 2: The Adventure of LINK. It don't like me 
.
Posted by: TheCheshireKhajiit Jun 2 2018, 03:44 AM
Lately Khajiit has played a game called Player Unknown's Battlegrounds or PUBG as it's also known. Khajiit is terrible at this game, lol. It's so frustrating dying over and over again.
The tactics I usually employ in games like these are as follows:
1. Land in a place that is relatively barren. Be at the edge of the map if need be. You’ll have your pick of weapons and there’s usually a vehicle near every place so you won’t have to worry about dying of poison when the map shrinks.
2. Limit your own visibility and audio cues by crouch-running and crawling whenever possible. Also check your six, nine and basically every direction at regular intervals. Smart people like to do people from behind, and while that may sound dirty, it’s a legit strategy. You’ll be surprised how cunning and sneaky people can be.
2b. Not only should you be environmentally and situationally aware, you should also be paranoid as all hell. If you see something that clashes with the natural environment, there’s a 60/40 chance that’s not part of the scenery. Check it out with the scope of your gun; you’ll have the advantage of already aiming at it if it turns out to be an enemy. This is especially true in crappy mobile renditions of Battle Royale type of games — the pixels of character models are so easy to differentiate from the set pieces of the environment and I get sooooooo many kills off of it.
3. Use stun and smoke grenades. They’re criminally underused.
4. It may just be a personal thing, but unless the need is really important, I don’t recommend using cars. They’re so loud and it can tip people off whenever you’re driving to an inhabited building or village or whatever. Bikes are the worst.
5. Be a predator, not a warrior, at least until you’re confident enough to just pawn people left and right. Choose engagements really carefully and more often than not let people pass you by unmolested (if they don’t see you). Let them thin their own ranks. I won several games where I only had one kill, and that was the last guy in a 1v1 when 98 of the other players were dead lol
And that’s it tbh. I’m still a learning journeyman myself but I hope this’ll help you in the future, my good Cat Man Dude.
Heh, Cat Man Dude hasn’t played that game in several months. Never did get very good at it so this one decided to cut his losses and accept that it wasn’t for him.
Posted by: Dark Reaper Oct 17 2018, 05:48 AM
Not really hard but the Ghost Recon Wildlands Predator battle was a Bee-with-an-itch so to speak.
https://youtu.be/-z4NbdwGalw.
Posted by: mirocu Oct 17 2018, 05:30 PM
Arena was pretty brutal, actually. Definitely the hardest TES game I've played a significant amount of by far (although maybe Battlespire will be worse). Died in the Imperial dungeons in the beginning at least 25 times.
You're not alone, maety. Though personally I don't think I died too often, or at all. Think I was being a giant chicken and thus vewy, vewy quiet
I have also played the original Castlevania. The difficulty in that game is just ridiculous. I also was able to play Super Mario Bros. all the way to World 8-4, but just could not get past it.
Haven't played much Castlevania but I hear it's a brute. Those "flying backwards half a mile when hit" is pure NES b-s.
As for SMB I usually play up to world 6-4 and then call it quits. I'm not skilled or patient enough to go further.
Zelda 2: The Adventure of LINK. It don't like me
.It's not an easy game and it does have some very weird secrets that you have to figure out in order to advance. I've tried my wings with it but haven't come far, mainly due to lack of interest. I did spam XP though for awhile.
Posted by: RaderOfTheLostArk Oct 18 2018, 01:16 AM
Arena was pretty brutal, actually. Definitely the hardest TES game I've played a significant amount of by far (although maybe Battlespire will be worse). Died in the Imperial dungeons in the beginning at least 25 times.
You're not alone, maety. Though personally I don't think I died too often, or at all. Think I was being a giant chicken and thus vewy, vewy quiet
Forgot all about this post.
Unfortunately, sneaking around was not an option for me, lol. (Nor was naturally casting magic, as a warrior like my Eternal Champion had to get enchanted gear to do that.) The Imperial Dungeons sure were brutal, but that certainly wasn't the only hard part. I remember in one of the main dungeons (the Mines of Khuras, I believe, since that was a fiery place) that I had to book it back to the entrance after I got what must have been another piece of the Staff of Chaos, because there were hellhounds skulking about and I had no Resist Fire potions left. Of course, I wasn't successful on the first try. Overall, I must have died close to 100 times in the game, or at least that is what it felt like.
Still haven't gotten around to playing Battlespire for comparison, though.
I have also played the original Castlevania. The difficulty in that game is just ridiculous. I also was able to play Super Mario Bros. all the way to World 8-4, but just could not get past it.
Haven't played much Castlevania but I hear it's a brute. Those "flying backwards half a mile when hit" is pure NES b-s.
As for SMB I usually play up to world 6-4 and then call it quits. I'm not skilled or patient enough to go further.
I personally don't understand the praise the original Castlevania gets. I get that it is supposed to be designed that way and its a different era, but it's just unfair and not fun. It was something like stage 3 is when I finally just had enough.
Posted by: mirocu Oct 18 2018, 05:56 PM
Yeah, many old games really didn't play fairly. Gravitating towards a bottomless pit every time something nudges you is the reason I've played through so few games even though the NES was de facto my childhood.
I did play through some games though. River City Ransom is a great game as is Shadowgate, if you can stomach all the "what do I do now?" Very atmospheric, though.
Posted by: Dark Reaper Nov 12 2018, 04:31 PM
I'm adding Dark Souls to this list. Both Yahtzee and Jim Sterling (YouTubers) swear by this game as the Leonardo Da Vinci of gaming so I decided to check it out. I made it through the intro dungeon but after that the game showed me its true form. Like I said I'm not into these type of rage games so to spare the Switch I decided to delete the game from its memory and replace it with Fortnite.
Posted by: Kane Nov 12 2018, 06:24 PM
Pretty sure that game series is made specifically for masochists.
Posted by: Dark Reaper Nov 12 2018, 06:29 PM
Pretty sure that game series is made specifically for masochists.
YEEP!
Posted by: mirocu Nov 12 2018, 06:35 PM
You guys must be talking about the Ninja Gaiden series.
Yep, you're talking about the Ninja Gaiden series.
Don't believe me? Play them for a bit and then get back to me
Posted by: Dark Reaper Nov 12 2018, 08:36 PM
You guys must be talking about the Ninja Gaiden series.
Yep, you're talking about the Ninja Gaiden series.
Don't believe me? Play them for a bit and then get back to me
that game is 8bit Dark Souls before Dark Souls existed.
Posted by: mirocu Nov 12 2018, 08:38 PM
that game is 8bit Dark Souls before Dark Souls existed.
Haven't played DS but perhaps you have a point
Posted by: Sakiri Nov 12 2018, 10:03 PM
Dark Souls series is brutal. Hardest game I've personally played...
I don't even remember. I avoided most of the hard NES and SNES titles. Maybe the original final fantasy, because I didn't know you were supposed to xp grind and I was horribly underleveled
Posted by: Dark Reaper Nov 12 2018, 10:16 PM
Dark Souls series is brutal. Hardest game I've personally played...
I don't even remember. I avoided most of the hard NES and SNES titles. Maybe the original final fantasy, because I didn't know you were supposed to xp grind and I was horribly underleveled
I heard the 3rd game's a bit more forgiving and probably better for starters, but that's like reading the last page of Return of the King because the other two books were hard to read.
Posted by: Kane Nov 13 2018, 01:56 PM
Dark Souls series is brutal. Hardest game I've personally played...
I don't even remember. I avoided most of the hard NES and SNES titles. Maybe the original final fantasy, because I didn't know you were supposed to xp grind and I was horribly underleveled
but that's like reading the last page of Return of the King because the other two books were hard to read.
Hoo boy. If you thought LotR was tough, I'd avoid the Silmarillion.
Posted by: Dark Reaper Nov 13 2018, 06:02 PM
Hoo boy. If you thought LotR was tough, I'd avoid the Silmarillion.
Oh I've read The Hobbit that was Dark Souls training area. I've never been so bored reading
.
Posted by: Uleni Athram Nov 14 2018, 01:55 PM
Dark Souls brought out the calculating, patient, pragmatic sadomasochistic min-max player in me. I entered that game as a trash-talking #360noscope420BlazeItYEEHAW CoD playboi, I came out of it a man.
I’ll never forget that game. It legit impacted me as a human being, to risk sounding dramatic; I’m not lying when I say it taught me patience and calculating all my moves beforehand, and I was like, young (15 I think or 16) so that was actually pretty beneficial.
Still tho, it’s not for everyone and I heard that the second game toes the line between simply hard and unreasonably torturous (only played the first game KEK).
Posted by: Sakiri Nov 14 2018, 05:51 PM
Dark Souls brought out the calculating, patient, pragmatic sadomasochistic min-max player in me. I entered that game as a trash-talking #360noscope420BlazeItYEEHAW CoD playboi, I came out of it a man.
I’ll never forget that game. It legit impacted me as a human being, to risk sounding dramatic; I’m not lying when I say it taught me patience and calculating all my moves beforehand, and I was like, young (15 I think or 16) so that was actually pretty beneficial.
Still tho, it’s not for everyone and I heard that the second game toes the line between simply hard and unreasonably torturous (only played the first game KEK).
Worst part is, the story looks interesting and I'd like to play it just for that, but there ain't no way in Hate I'm touching a game that difficult. My blood pressure thanks me.
Posted by: Uleni Athram Nov 14 2018, 06:37 PM
Dark Souls brought out the calculating, patient, pragmatic sadomasochistic min-max player in me. I entered that game as a trash-talking #360noscope420BlazeItYEEHAW CoD playboi, I came out of it a man.
I’ll never forget that game. It legit impacted me as a human being, to risk sounding dramatic; I’m not lying when I say it taught me patience and calculating all my moves beforehand, and I was like, young (15 I think or 16) so that was actually pretty beneficial.
Still tho, it’s not for everyone and I heard that the second game toes the line between simply hard and unreasonably torturous (only played the first game KEK).
Worst part is, the story looks interesting and I'd like to play it just for that, but there ain't no way in Hate I'm touching a game that difficult. My blood pressure thanks me.
Do it for the giggles anyway GAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Posted by: mirocu Nov 14 2018, 06:38 PM
Uleni should play Ghosts n Goblins for the NES
Posted by: Dark Reaper Nov 14 2018, 07:05 PM
Uleni should play Ghosts n Goblins for the NES
I got that on the Switch via Nintendo Online Direct (aka Now Nintendo does online memberships too). It's tough but fair.
Posted by: mirocu Nov 14 2018, 07:07 PM
Don't know if "fair" is the word I'd use
Maybe it's been easified on the Switch?
Posted by: Dark Reaper Nov 14 2018, 07:12 PM
Maybe it's been easified on the Switch?
Kinda...You can use save states now. As for the original you had infinite continues and even if you died and used said continue you'd pick right up from the last checkpoint.
Posted by: mirocu Nov 14 2018, 07:17 PM
Ooooooh, save states. And I reckon you don't have to play it twice in a row in order to truly win?
Posted by: Dark Reaper Nov 14 2018, 07:20 PM
Ooooooh, save states. And I reckon you don't have to play it twice in a row in order to truly win?
Nope still have to do it twice.
Posted by: mirocu Nov 14 2018, 07:26 PM
That's a huge middlefinger in the face of an unsuspected gamer
Posted by: Sakiri Nov 14 2018, 09:09 PM
I remember hearing about that. I'd be less than pleased.
Posted by: mirocu Nov 14 2018, 09:21 PM
In Bubble Bobble for the NES you simply cannot complete the game alone. Well you can, but you can't get the true ending without a second player.
Posted by: Sakiri Nov 14 2018, 09:52 PM
Which was bs.
Posted by: Dark Reaper Nov 14 2018, 10:26 PM
That's a huge middlefinger in the face of an unsuspected gamer
I remember hearing about that. I'd be less than pleased.
Well the arcade of Ghost N Goblins had one job...https://imgflip.com/s/meme/X-All-The-Y.jpg .
Posted by: Kane Nov 15 2018, 01:45 PM
The curious side of me is now considering Dark Souls. Might pick it up for the 360.
Posted by: TheCheshireKhajiit Nov 15 2018, 04:16 PM
The curious side of me is now considering Dark Souls. Might pick it up for the 360.
Have fun getting your ass kicked repeatedly. Doesn’t sound like fun to Khajiit.
Posted by: Sakiri Nov 15 2018, 04:51 PM
The curious side of me is now considering Dark Souls. Might pick it up for the 360.
Have fun getting your ass kicked repeatedly. Doesn’t sound like fun to Khajiit.
Doesn't sound fun to this one either.
Posted by: Dark Reaper Nov 15 2018, 05:08 PM
The curious side of me is now considering Dark Souls. Might pick it up for the 360.
Have fun getting your ass kicked repeatedly. Doesn’t sound like fun to Khajiit.
Doesn't sound fun to this one either.
It ain't
! After awhile it gets old and frustrating. Again its a game for people who enjoy raging and are masochist. Posted by: Kane Nov 15 2018, 05:17 PM
I think I can tame it. I have vast reserves of patience.
Posted by: Sakiri Nov 15 2018, 06:41 PM
My patience level rivals the attention span of a gnat.
Posted by: TheCheshireKhajiit Nov 15 2018, 06:53 PM
Khajiit has tons of patience. What he doesn’t have a lot of is time. This one would rather play things that he can progress through at a reasonable pace.
Posted by: Sakiri Nov 15 2018, 08:22 PM
Totally understandable.
Posted by: Dark Reaper Nov 15 2018, 09:06 PM
I think I can tame it. I have vast reserves of patience.
https://media.giphy.com/media/3o7qE5ceqLBHRR0C64/giphy.gif
Posted by: SubRosa Nov 15 2018, 10:26 PM
I am not a doctor, so I don't have any patience...
Posted by: TheCheshireKhajiit Nov 15 2018, 10:34 PM
I am not a doctor, so I don't have any patience...
You’re punny!
Posted by: King Of Beasts Nov 27 2018, 07:35 AM
Massive chalice
Posted by: Dark Reaper Jan 5 2019, 04:58 AM
Operation: Watchman from Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Wildlands. This mission is extremely difficult and all for the wrong reasons. You can't be seen and you can't kill anyone. It's basically infiltrate a military base with your hands behind your back and every soldier on this base have super human sight and hearing and these are suppose to be regular soldiers. THIS IS TOM CLANCY NOT METAL GEAR!!!
Posted by: TheCheshireKhajiit Jan 5 2019, 05:31 AM
Operation: Watchman from Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Wildlands. This mission is extremely difficult and all for the wrong reasons. You can't be seen and you can't kill anyone. It's basically infiltrate a military base with your hands behind your back and every soldier on this base have super human sight and hearing and these are suppose to be regular soldiers. THIS IS TOM CLANCY NOT METAL GEAR!!!
!
Posted by: Dark Reaper Jan 5 2019, 05:43 AM
!
https://youtu.be/XI1VpElKWF8!
Posted by: Uleni Athram Jan 5 2019, 06:42 AM
Reaper? Reaper?! REEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAPPPPEEEERRR!!!
Posted by: Dark Reaper Jan 5 2019, 04:13 PM
Reaper? Reaper?! REEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAPPPPEEEERRR!!!
https://youtu.be/2SDYEF4Ice4.
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