Mojave Meanderings and Wasteland Wanderings, The Fallout "Where are you now" thread Options

[TheCheshireKhajiit]

Oda Hidetaka finally made it to Vegas yesterday. She went straight to The Tops, and told Victor to bug off before she killed him when he tried to get her to see Mr. House first. She does not give a rat snake's ass for House. She was there to kill Benny, his henchmen, his family, his friends, everyone connected to him.

She walked into The Tops, and immediately went on a killing spree. She started with the doormen, and then went through the entire casino killing everyone who worked there. She only spared the civilians there to gamble. Benny turned up about half way through, and she turned him into sushi. I think this is the first time a character of mine has ever gone through every part of the casino. I had no idea there was a cell with a pool!

She is also my first character to ever be so bloodthirsty. Not even Loviatar killed every Chairman. She and the others simply went in and killed Benny. Hecate did it with a sniper shot from across the casino. Persephone and Loviatar did it ambushing him alone in his suite. Hidetaka did it in a tidal wave of slaughter. Samurai know how to take vengeance.

She got some some serious Infamy in The Strip for it. I forget exactly what the level was. I am not sure how that will play out in the future. No one attacked her on the way out though, which was good. Otherwise she might have had to kill everyone in New Vegas. Which she would have done. Vulpes Inculata from the Legion talked to her after exiting of course. She took his head off, and no one blinked. That's the kind of town New Vegas is...

Aw man! This reminds Khajiit of the scene in Kill Bill vol.1 where the bride shows up at O-Ren Ishii's hq and destroys The Crazy 88!

This post has been edited by TheCheshireKhajiit: Oct 16 2017, 12:15 AM

[Lopov]

Looks like Japanese are very vengeful because Lee Cyeng dealt with Benny in almost the same way. He didn't kill Victor but proceeded straight to the Tops as well and refused to surrender his weapons which resulted in Chairmen turning hostile. He might spare them if they let him through but they didn't, so too bad.

Like Oda, he didn't kill any gamblers though if some would run right past him as he would be slicing the Chairmen and he happened to kill them - too bad, but fortunately it didn't happen. Benny died in a rather unspectacular way, Lee was hoping at least for his head to be chopped off but looks like he got hit with a blunt part of Lee's axe. That's why he threw his corpse on the gambling table, hacked it to pieces and tossed his head to some gamblers.

He spared the Chairmen in other areas, though, and I disabled Vulpes with the console because it gets annoying seeing him every time as we step out of the casino.

One thing, though - he didn't get any infamy on the Strip, his rep stayed neutral. So I wonder why Oda did, was it because of Victor? Or did she kill some gambler by accident?

[Renee]

She is also my first character to ever be so bloodthirsty. Not even Loviatar killed every Chairman.

It is possible Lovi only kills until she is sated, right? The lion can't go after every wildebeest on the prarie. For Hidetaka, it's not about winning, it's probably also about making sure the enemy knows it has lost.

[mirocu]

My character has now entered Renee country with the Dutchess Gambit. Late evening arrived at the same time and my character is now preparing to face to bullet sponges. Vulcan minigun and a Fatman should soften them up at least somewhat

[TheCheshireKhajiit]

My character has now entered Renee country with the Dutchess Gambit. Late evening arrived at the same time and my character is now preparing to face to bullet sponges. Vulcan minigun and a Fatman should soften them up at least somewhat

Give those swamp people hell!

[SubRosa]

Hidetaka did not actually kill Victor. But she was ready to. There was a line telling him something like get lost that she used.

I just double-checked, and she is Shunned on The Strip. I am not exactly sure what that means, but it cannot be good.

I am pretty sure she did not kill any gamblers by accident. I was really careful not to swing the sword when any of them them were near, to the point of being a bullet sponge at some points. I could see the faction status updates as the fight went on. Maybe killing certain members of Benny's gang incur the bad reputation and some do not? I noticed that there were different tittles to them - Chairmen, Benny's Bodyguards, and a few others.

[TheCheshireKhajiit]

Did you go see Mr.House?

[SubRosa]

No. Mr. House can sit and collect dust for all she cares.

[TheCheshireKhajiit]

No. Mr. House can sit and collect dust for all she cares.

Would that cause you to be shunned on the strip perhaps?

[mirocu]

My character has now entered Renee country with the Dutchess Gambit. Late evening arrived at the same time and my character is now preparing to face to bullet sponges. Vulcan minigun and a Fatman should soften them up at least somewhat

Give those swamp people hell!

I have now just started to roam around Point Lookout and boy, having a Fatman sure does help. So yeah, hell was given

Didn't do much of a muchness; cleared an area close to the boardwalk including the burned-out basement. Found stuff to shoot and stuff to sell

[Lopov]

No. Mr. House can sit and collect dust for all she cares.

Would that cause you to be shunned on the strip perhaps?

No, whether you visit him or not, doesn't affect your reputation.

Did Oda talk to the Chairman Greeter but managed to sneak in her weapons due to high sneak and attacked the Chairmen afterwards or did she make him hostile because she refused to surrender her weapons?

Lee did the latter and now I'm thinking if Oda did the former and attacked the Chairmen as they were friendly, maybe that cause the fall of reputation.

[SubRosa]

No. Mr. House can sit and collect dust for all she cares.

Would that cause you to be shunned on the strip perhaps?

No, whether you visit him or not, doesn't affect your reputation.

Did Oda talk to the Chairman Greeter but managed to sneak in her weapons due to high sneak and attacked the Chairmen afterwards or did she make him hostile because she refused to surrender her weapons?

Lee did the latter and now I'm thinking if Oda did the former and attacked the Chairmen as they were friendly, maybe that cause the fall of reputation.

Hidetaka talked to the greeter, and refused to give up her weapons. He said something like "Too bad, we have to kill you now." and then the fight was on. So I think technically they began the combat. Unless I was too quick after the dialogue box closed and attacked before the game set to them to hostile? That is possible.

This post has been edited by SubRosa: Oct 17 2017, 08:24 PM

[Lopov]

I checked back what happened in Alan Webb's game, he surrendered his weapons, then took some from the Chairmen on the 13th floor, and then went back to the lounge and attacked other Chairmen. By the time he was done with them and Benny, his reputation on the Strip was shunned.

So it could be that Oda attacked the Chairmen before they even got hostile or fired at her (she must be really fast ) so the game detected as she was the first who attacked.

[TheCheshireKhajiit]

Well wouldn't refusing to surrender your weapons at the casino entrance be enough to get the shunned status? Khajiit believes it must be a law for The Strip in general because every casino requires this. Don't follow the law=negative reputation?

This post has been edited by TheCheshireKhajiit: Oct 17 2017, 08:45 PM

[Lopov]

Looks like not, else Lee Cyeng would be shunned too because he refused to surrender his weapons. But his rep on the Strip remained neutral.

[SubRosa]

I tried a little test and went back to my save before going in the Tops, and this time she killed everyone in the first two rooms without getting Shunned. So I think that either I did hit a civilian by accident (which I doubt), or I attacked before the game decided the fight is on, or it is just a glitch. I might go back and just start playing from that save. I have not done a lot since then.

[SubRosa]

I found out what did it. I tried it again, and I was fine killing Benny and all the Chairmen in the main casino room. When I went to the theater I was able to kill The Rad Pack with no problem. The last one in that cell was Tommy Torini. As soon as I killed him I got the Shunned status on The Strip. Even though he definitely shot first.

[Renee]

Sorry to butt into your New Vegas conversation. Just wanted to be clear that "Renee Country" does not include Point Lookout. I have never been to Point Lookout, had no idea that it is the southernmost point of Maryland, you silly crow. Renee Country would be closer to D.C.'s mall itself. We go there usually once per year to see museums and stuff, though I have yet to see any super mutants roaming around. I have also been through Bethesda, Tenleytown, Silver Spring, several other places in that area.

You can still call it Renee Country though, Crowboy. I like it. I just ain't never been there.

[mirocu]

Well, it's in Maryland, right? And you're in Maryland, right?



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[TheCheshireKhajiit]

I found out what did it. I tried it again, and I was fine killing Benny and all the Chairmen in the main casino room. When I went to the theater I was able to kill The Rad Pack with no problem. The last one in that cell was Tommy Torini. As soon as I killed him I got the Shunned status on The Strip. Even though he definitely shot first.

That seems ridiculous to Khajiit. You can murder all of these guys but if you touch one hair on this guy's head then you're a bad guy.