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post Aug 3 2011, 01:46 PM
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Hi folks!

My characters are getting unruly, so I thought I’d make a place where I can hide from them while they fight it out. I mean, while I figure out what to do. The first time this happened, I posted Home for the Holidays, a very short story about Abiene’s Saturalia visit to Leyawiin in the year 3E432. I should have made this thread then, but at the time I still thought that every word I wrote would be the last. Someday I hope to make an offering at The Temple of Lore, but for now I’m still too guilty of undisciplined sprawling. I’ll start a story in the next post.

As always, comments and discussion are very welcome! smile.gif

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post Aug 12 2011, 09:45 PM
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The story is over, and thank you for reading it! I appreciate the thought-provoking comments and discussion very much. I plan to get back to Jerric’s Story next week. I ended up dumping an entire chapter. It was painful, but I’m moving on.


haute ecole rider: I hoped you would like Master Relas! For all of his velvet and powder, I see him as someone who would spring into action. After all, Carahil has no tolerance for mages who are useless in the field. That’s why I had him lead the Anvil guild’s expedition to Kvatch after the attack. You are so right, I’m sure Rhano would have even gone with the sea-sirens by the time Jerric got back. Of course, Jerric’s decision-making process hasn’t changed much since he was nine. Whatever Felen and Rhano saw, it was bad enough to keep Felen from offering Jerric a potion. Two freaked out kids in a narrow underwater tunnel would be a little much for him to handle.


mALX: Exactly, Felen looked at this wide-eyed Nord kid and saw a future battlemage. Of course if Jerric had announced that his ambition was to join the Weavers Guild instead of being a guard, the conversation might have gone differently. Also Jerric demonstrated an independent way of thinking by going to the Mages Guild for help, not to mention the disregard for his own safety that would allow him to eventually jump through an Oblivion Gate. Happily for Jerric, Felen could see the potential in his behavior.


ghastley: I’m really glad you brought that up. The water breathing potion was just less unacceptable than letting yourself drown. The main issue that the boys were worried about was getting a mage involved. The potion saved Rhano’s life, but healing the ankle would have been unnecessary. At their age they wouldn’t have the judgment to decide that alteration and healing aren’t as bad as summoning or illusion, they would just have been told to stay away from spellcasters. I didn’t mention it in the story, but I think the Mages Guild at that time would still be loaded with necromancers. That would make all mages extremely suspect to folks like Rhano’s mom who already have a deep mistrust of magic users.

The second thing is that both boys have a sense of honor that won’t allow them to lie, and in their minds not telling Rhano’s parents what happened would be a kind of lying. So healing the ankle and not mentioning the incident wouldn’t work for them. Jerric offered to pay for the potion not to hide it from Ongve, but because he felt responsible for bringing the Mages Guild into the situation. The boys know each other well enough to not need to discuss it. Many kids would have gone the way of the cover-up, which is why Jerric mentioned to Felen that they would tell the truth. In the end the boys would have been punished for putting themselves into the situation more than for saving Rhano with a potion. Ongve would have insisted that Jerric fulfill his promise to Felen, which would result in him spending even more time with the mages. Good for Jerric, upsetting for Rhano’s mom.


Acadian: You make a good point about potions vs. spells. I think alchemy works much better as a regular skill in a magical world the way you describe it and the way I think it will be in Skyrim. I’ve gone the way of drawing mystical properties out of the ingredients in my story, but Darnand came up with an answer for me to fix it, I think.

You picked out the moment where Jerric and Rhano’s troubles begin. It will be another eight years and a bit before they join their guilds, but after that whisper Jerric starts keeping some things to himself. I’m so glad Felen stole the show! Now you see why he has such a soft spot for the battlemage and reluctant alchemist that he recruited. Thank you for your kind words about Felen’s character. It was fun to show why he means a lot to Jerric.


Destri Melarg: All I know about Redguard thinking and magic comes from Trayvond the Redguard in the game, so I was interested to hear what you have learned. I think a potion in Hammerfell would be more trustworthy than a potion in Cyrodiil, where necromancy is at this time still accepted. Even a healing potion could come from a human heart, or a fortify health potion could contain zombie flesh. Some of it would also depend on the potion. An invisibility potion would still be tampering with the mind, for example. The families’ caravans would certainly carry a supply of healing potions, and I would expect at least some of their guards and scouts to use enchantments. But kids often overhear much more than they are told, and the talk at Rhano‘s house about magic users would probably be negative.

Poor Rhano, I’m sure he worried that his buddy would head straight out to the cemetery and start digging up bodies. That moment that you and Acadian picked out was pretty much the reason for the story, so I am very pleased that it stood out for you.


SubRosa: Rhano definitely shares his mother’s mistrust of magic, and that’s the basis for his future conflict with Jerric. When Jerric joins the Fighters Guild after Kvatch and asks Rhano if he will be able to get over it and train him, he means get over Jerric being a battlemage. It took an army of actual daedra burning Kvatch to the ground to get Rhano to cooperate with training against a summoned dremora. Carahil had a similar change of heart when she recommended that Jerric go to Chorrol and learn more about daedric conjuring.

I’m glad you liked the line about meeting too many guards. I’m sure Jerric earned every cross word he got from them. biggrin.gif


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Grits   Postcards from Tamriel   Aug 3 2011, 01:46 PM
Grits   Tides, Part One Anvil, Summer of 3E414 Jerric a...   Aug 3 2011, 01:57 PM
haute ecole rider   Oooh, I loved seeing Jerric and Rhano as boys...   Aug 3 2011, 02:13 PM
ureniashtram   Oh no! The three bullies! Those were the s...   Aug 3 2011, 03:38 PM
Acadian   A day in the life of young Jerric and Rhano. Boyz...   Aug 4 2011, 12:45 AM
Destri Melarg   I couldn't stop thinking of Tom and Huck as I ...   Aug 4 2011, 09:30 AM
mALX   Oooh !!! The backstory to Jerric and ...   Aug 4 2011, 01:51 PM
treydog   “Your other lip, dummy!” Grits-re...   Aug 4 2011, 04:08 PM
SubRosa   Was this inspired by the Morrowind character creat...   Aug 4 2011, 10:48 PM
King Coin   :rofl: I never thought Jerric was going to get a ...   Aug 5 2011, 03:23 PM
Grits   Thank you so much everyone for the warm response t...   Aug 8 2011, 04:05 PM
mALX   ARGH !! Tales from Homer's Iliad and ...   Aug 8 2011, 05:09 PM
haute ecole rider   What a fun little adventure! I always loved ex...   Aug 8 2011, 08:36 PM
SubRosa   Here is some music to read by. Eels like dark pl...   Aug 8 2011, 11:40 PM
Acadian   This was great fun to read. Humor, adventure, bre...   Aug 9 2011, 12:22 AM
Destri Melarg   First there was this: Now I know from this that t...   Aug 10 2011, 01:18 AM
Grits   mALX: It has been so hot and dry here, I keep thin...   Aug 11 2011, 12:59 PM
haute ecole rider   Ooh, I luuurve Master Relas in this! He is jus...   Aug 11 2011, 02:01 PM
mALX   @ Grits - I don't have time to read this righ...   Aug 11 2011, 04:31 PM
ghastley   I'm not quite seeing how a water breathing pot...   Aug 11 2011, 05:02 PM
Acadian   A heart pounding episode until Rhano was safe...   Aug 12 2011, 12:31 AM
Destri Melarg   I'm not quite seeing how a water breathing po...   Aug 12 2011, 05:05 AM
mALX   So this is the beginning of Jerric's interest ...   Aug 12 2011, 06:22 AM
SubRosa   Running away from shouting adults was a good way t...   Aug 12 2011, 07:54 PM
King Coin   That fun adventure sure turned sour. :blink: I wou...   Aug 13 2011, 02:47 AM
treydog   This was simply a wonderful break- as well as show...   Aug 14 2011, 01:08 AM
Grits   Jerric’s Story has accumulated a lot of char...   Jul 15 2012, 08:06 PM
mALX   Jerric’s Story has accumulated a lot of character...   Jul 15 2012, 08:12 PM
Grits   . Appendix One: The People of Jerric's World ...   Jul 15 2012, 08:18 PM
mALX   Holy Cow, there are some names I don't recogni...   Jul 15 2012, 08:33 PM
King Coin   That's quite a list Grits! :blink: I'd...   Jul 15 2012, 10:58 PM
Grits   Exactly, I am utterly failing to keep track of the...   Jul 15 2012, 11:12 PM
mALX   Exactly, I am utterly failing to keep track of th...   Jul 15 2012, 11:20 PM
Acadian   Thanks for the wonderful listing! I know what...   Jul 16 2012, 12:15 AM
SubRosa   Very neat to see the Who's Who of the Jerricdy...   Jul 16 2012, 01:28 AM
haute ecole rider   So Pappy was in Julian's Legion in Skyrim...   Jul 29 2012, 12:33 AM
ghastley   I'm not sure if this little episode belongs on...   Sep 16 2012, 11:32 PM
Grits   :rofl: If she said her hovercraft was full of eels...   Sep 16 2012, 11:48 PM
King Coin   Love the nonsense dialog. :D   Sep 21 2012, 06:50 PM
Grits   In an attempt to organize my scribblings I have wr...   Oct 7 2012, 09:29 PM
Grits   . [size=4]Appendix Two: Terms and Expressions In ...   Oct 7 2012, 09:31 PM
mALX   That Shen shi nui's Koocha has Treerats!   Oct 7 2012, 10:39 PM
Grits   ROFL! Holy skitt, pass the akkvit!   Oct 7 2012, 10:48 PM
mALX   Is that Treerat Skitt on that Ran alai or are thos...   Oct 7 2012, 11:22 PM
Acadian   What a treat! Another guide to Jerric’s world...   Oct 8 2012, 01:04 AM
Grits   For Aravi, a little scene from between the worlds:...   Dec 4 2012, 10:20 PM
King Coin   OMG I love it Grits! Icy Dip :lol: I can see ...   Dec 4 2012, 11:39 PM
Acadian   Speaking for an elf who has been similarly gifted ...   Dec 5 2012, 01:26 AM
mALX   * http://i434.photobucket.com/albums/qq67/Maxical...   Dec 5 2012, 01:57 AM
mALX   * http://images.uesp.net/thumb/8/88/OB-npc-Uriel_...   Dec 5 2012, 02:07 AM
Grits   * http://images.uesp.net/thumb/8/88/OB-npc-Uriel...   Dec 29 2012, 08:26 PM
mALX   * http://images.uesp.net/thumb/4/47/OB-npc-Neruss...   Dec 5 2012, 05:24 AM
Grits   Between the worlds, Saturalia preparations continu...   Dec 14 2012, 07:08 PM
King Coin   Lildereth looked appalled. “You’re gi...   Dec 14 2012, 08:48 PM
McBadgere   That's just funny right there that is... :D...   Dec 14 2012, 07:18 PM
mALX   * http://i434.photobucket.com/albums/qq67/Maxical...   Dec 14 2012, 08:32 PM
Acadian   This was a joy to read! Such wonderful intera...   Dec 15 2012, 01:19 AM
Grits   Here’s a day in the life of Sonstra and Kjel...   Dec 29 2012, 08:27 PM
Acadian   What a beautiful and oh so relevant short story...   Dec 29 2012, 09:19 PM
mALX   I am back home, but without a working PC. Will co...   Dec 29 2012, 11:08 PM
ghastley   Kjelling grunted a reply, eyes on his meal. Then h...   Dec 30 2012, 10:04 PM
King Coin   ghastley hit the line I liked the most! Thanks...   Dec 31 2012, 09:26 PM
mALX   Loved this little detail thrown in, you couldn’t...   Jan 1 2013, 10:22 PM
ghastley   This thread needs a bump, so I hope Grits doesn...   Jun 3 2013, 09:33 PM
mALX   I LOVE this! Not only is Simplicia one of my ...   Jun 3 2013, 10:05 PM
Grits   mALX said it for me too, it’s great to see Clark’s...   Jun 4 2013, 12:57 AM
SubRosa   I have a postcard from Cyrodiil. This is a scene t...   Jun 19 2013, 01:02 AM
ThatSkyrimGuy   What a great postcard! Aela seems to possess w...   Jun 19 2013, 02:20 AM
Grits   An Aela postcard, yay! What a fantastic idea t...   Jun 19 2013, 03:33 AM
Acadian   SubRosa, nice to see a snip from Aela’s fic! ...   Jun 19 2013, 07:43 PM
haute ecole rider   A delightful episode on a lovely island! I alw...   Jun 20 2013, 06:28 PM
SubRosa   ThatSkyrimGuy: Aela also appears in the TF, though...   Jun 21 2013, 08:18 PM
Darkness Eternal   Postcard! An excerpt from one of my stories ti...   Apr 1 2014, 10:45 PM
haute ecole rider   Umm, from the frying pan into the fire? :blink: ...   Apr 2 2014, 12:13 AM
Grits   Hmm, I think I recognize the giant Imperial. We sh...   Apr 2 2014, 01:27 AM
treydog   Yes- well... (shuffles feet and looks around). Fi...   Apr 4 2014, 02:25 AM
haute ecole rider   And so Trey (and our little hot-diggety-dog doggie...   Apr 4 2014, 05:17 AM
McBadgere   I do loves that "Not-a-Story"(tm) hugely...   Apr 5 2014, 10:45 AM
Grits   My heart ached for Trey by the end of the first pa...   Apr 12 2014, 02:53 AM
Elisabeth Hollow   Small, bare feet ran through the cobblestone stree...   Apr 12 2014, 06:11 PM
SubRosa   Vae Victus! That was a nice little piece, whic...   Apr 12 2014, 07:02 PM
Elisabeth Hollow   I only read a little bit of Teresa. I know she was...   Apr 12 2014, 07:26 PM
Grits   I was reminded of Teresa, too! Fortunately for...   Apr 12 2014, 07:44 PM
Elisabeth Hollow   Samara is in "At My Feet," but sea much ...   Apr 12 2014, 07:48 PM
Grits   (This is just a page from the Darnandex, a supplem...   May 12 2014, 05:06 PM
Grits   . [size=4]Appendix Four: Geography [center]Change...   May 12 2014, 05:25 PM
Darkness Eternal   Hmm. New places. Cyrodiil is never a small place, ...   May 21 2014, 03:07 AM
Grits   (Still adding to this...) . [size=4]Appendix Five...   Jul 24 2014, 11:47 AM
Acadian   As soon as I saw Jerric's birthday, I raced to...   Jul 24 2014, 12:47 PM
Grits   :lol: Thank you for being such a wonderful and sup...   Jul 24 2014, 06:15 PM
SubRosa   And if you want a quick reference of which birthsi...   Jul 24 2014, 06:44 PM
Acadian   Oh I completely forgot about the birth signs. Jer...   Jul 24 2014, 10:08 PM
Darkness Eternal   Great stuff Grits. Peaked my curiosity. Subrosa, ...   Aug 11 2014, 03:32 PM
SubRosa   Great stuff Grits. Peaked my curiosity. Subrosa,...   Aug 11 2014, 04:27 PM
ghastley   Signs to months is in the in-game book The Firmame...   Aug 11 2014, 06:11 PM
Darkness Eternal   Hmmm. Can't believe I missed that. I've re...   Aug 12 2014, 03:28 AM
Acadian   * * * My dear Jerric, ...   Nov 20 2014, 01:55 PM
Grits   , 20 Sun’s Dusk Whiterun Jerric breezed t...   Nov 22 2014, 03:42 AM
SubRosa   Happy birthday to Jerric, and his stones. When I w...   Nov 22 2014, 04:41 AM
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