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Renee
post Jul 28 2020, 11:53 PM
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Got a problem in your Fallout game? Post it right here, in this thread. cake.gif First post is a problem which I solved. I can't tell you all how ecstatic this makes me.

FALLOUT 3 CRASH TO DESKTOP WHOA #1

So this is a bit of troubleshooting for those who might also have this same problem. It's about a very specific CTD I I kept having: crashes at Megaton's gate. Urgh. Maybe the solution below will also take care of all the random CTDs I keep having... usually they'll occur anywhere form a half-hour or later into playtime.

Go into the main Fallout 3 folder and right-click on FalloutLauncher. Maybe you'll need to left-click and then right-click. There should be a large panel which pops up. Select Properties, and then the Compatibility tab.

Select "Run This Compatibility Mode For" and then choose whichever operating system in the scroll-bar. I've got Windows 8. Click Apply, Click OK.

That is all. smile.gif I've walked my character in and out of Megaton like seven times now.

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post Jul 29 2020, 01:35 AM
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Your random CTDs might be the multi core bug in Fallout 3. When the game was being made, multi core cpus were still being invented. So it was made for the old-fashioned single-core cpus. But by the time the game was released, multi core cpus were a thing, and the game often crashed on them. This might fix it.


Open up the fallout.ini file in: My Documents\My Games\Fallout3

Find the following lines, and change the values to these. If they don't exist, paste them in:
bUseThreadedAI=1
iNumHWThreads=2

This will limit the game to 2 cores and prevent the engine bug from causing the game to freeze.

If it still crashes, try setting it to iNumHWThreads=1


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post Jul 29 2020, 08:50 AM
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I had the multicore bug too and got it fixed, as well as the Windows LIVE thing. Thankfully, when I installed Fallout 3 on my backup computer I got it to work without hickups happy.gif


Good you got it sorted, Renee. I've never had anything work by doing what you did so I'm glad to see it work for once biggrin.gif


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post Jul 29 2020, 10:03 AM
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The only fix which helped me, when I was having lots of CTDs in FO3, was to place the New Vegas (yes, New Vegas!) anti crash file in the FO3 folder. CTDs ever since have become extremely rare. I've tried all other possible fixes, even some of those mentioned above, but none of them worked. kvleft.gif It's good that we post different solutions / fixes here, because what may work for someone, may not work for someone else.

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post Jul 29 2020, 01:15 PM
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Rosa: Thank you. I also did check out the multi-core processor .ini fix, but my FALLOUT.ini file already has the appropriate lines added in. I think because I have that Unofficial patch (I forget its full name) this already made those changes.

mirocu: Yes the Games For Windows Live nonsense is what plagued me back in 2016 when I was trying to get Fallout 3 on my PC. mad.gif That was extremely aggravating, and I don't think Steam (which is where I got F03) even mentioned having to deal with GFWL. mad.gif In my opinion Steam should put a warning in BIG BOLD LETTERS right up front about this. It's only because I've become somewhat of a pro at PC crises that I did not immediately try to get my money back. wink.gif Right Lopov?

Polov: Wow, that's very unusual. I already do have an anti-crash dll file installed, but not from New Vegas. Maybe now I will try removing this .dll file, because maybe my game is fine with the Compatibility fix stated in the OP.

It is very true that everyone's game seems to be different. Even with consoles, you'll have one group of people claiming their game is broken to unplayability, and an entirely different experience from another group.

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post Sep 2 2020, 07:43 AM
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Something else you can add to the list that causes unexplained CTDs is using Gysnc. I did not realize I had my Gsync turned on, and was having CTDs at random. Then once I realized it, I set the game to run on a fixed refresh rate, and that fixed it. It is the standard problem of Bethesda's games being made to only run at 60 fps. Going over that breaks the games.


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post Sep 2 2020, 01:21 PM
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Ha I don't know what Gsync is. I wonder if I have that activated. I don't think I do. I would remember that term since it's an obvious play in Vsync. My game is capped at 60, but I don't think I use Gsync.... I've got something else influencing framerates.
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post Sep 2 2020, 10:45 PM
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G-sync is a relatively new monitor technology. I wrote about it in the Gaming Technomancy topic somewhere around here. Here it is. It basically replaces V-Sync, by automatically changing your monitor's refresh rate to match whatever your video card is putting out at that very instant. So it goes up and down dynamically, and that dramatically reduces stuttering, which is typically caused by the video card being unable to keep up with the 60 fps that V-sync demands it run at.

But it also means that the video card can run as fast as it wants to as well, which can mean frame rates of up to 144. On most games that just means they look really good. But Bethesda's games have their internal timing locked into 60 fps. If you go over that, it breaks the games. I forgot that.


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post Sep 4 2020, 05:42 PM
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I just cannot seem to get this game to run with mods anymore. I played through the intro without mods just fine, but when I added the unofficial patch and Fallout3 redesigned, it crashes like every 15-20 minutes! I checked all of the things in this thread and added the New Vegas anti crash file Lopov mentioned, but it just will not cooperate! I’m at a loss as it’s never given me this much trouble before.


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post Sep 4 2020, 05:49 PM
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Is Fallout 3 Redesigned a mod? If so, I know you might not want to hear this, but maybe try disabling that and see how it goes.

I must say, Fallout 3 is my most unstable game, so you're definitely not alone. Skyrim is most stable.

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post Sep 4 2020, 05:58 PM
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QUOTE(Renee @ Sep 4 2020, 11:49 AM) *

Is Fallout 3 Redesigned a mod? If so, I know you might not want to hear this, but maybe try disabling that and see how it goes.

I must say, Fallout 3 is my most unstable game, so you're definitely not alone. Skyrim is most stable.

Yeah it’s a mod that makes the faces in the game a bit prettier (imo).

Fallout4 is probably my most stable BGS game. It runs really well on my machine.


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post Sep 4 2020, 06:18 PM
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Hmm, well if it only affects faces, that can't be the culprit, but I'd still try disabling it. I could live without prettier faces for a short duration, I look at myself in the mirror every day after all. Yeah, I'd turn that off. Go in and out of Megaton's cells, back into the Wasteland, travel on foot for awhile, and so on. Go for a half hour, then an hour. If CTDs still occur, then it's something else, which is Ooouf, definitely not fun.

Is that the only mod you've got? Like I said in my story thread, I recently had a CTD every time my character walked from Fort Independence to the Wasteland (inside to outside, in other words). I tracked the culprit down to Mart's Mutant Mod. Bummer, but I'll live.



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post Sep 4 2020, 07:00 PM
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QUOTE(Renee @ Sep 4 2020, 12:18 PM) *

Hmm, well if it only affects faces, that can't be the culprit, but I'd still try disabling it. I could live without prettier faces for a short duration, I look at myself in the mirror every day after all. Yeah, I'd turn that off. Go in and out of Megaton's cells, back into the Wasteland, travel on foot for awhile, and so on. Go for a half hour, then an hour. If CTDs still occur, then it's something else, which is Ooouf, definitely not fun.

Is that the only mod you've got? Like I said in my story thread, I recently had a CTD every time my character walked from Fort Independence to the Wasteland (inside to outside, in other words). I tracked the culprit down to Mart's Mutant Mod. Bummer, but I'll live.

I’m also running the unofficial patch and a slower item degradation mod.


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post Sep 4 2020, 07:04 PM
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I don't think that the UOP is the issue, so I'd try disabling that Redesigned Mod. I've never used the Slower Item Degradation Mod either, so I can't be of much help here. Are you running the GOTY version?

QUOTE(Renee @ Sep 4 2020, 07:18 PM) *

Hmm, well if it only affects faces, that can't be the culprit, but I'd still try disabling it.


From my experience in New Vegas, even a tiniest mod, that doesn't seem to affect anything major, can be a cause of CTDs. There was some bag/pouch mod that I was using and because the mod author didn't remove some unused scripts or whatever, it was causing crashes, whenever you came near Novac.


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post Sep 4 2020, 07:06 PM
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QUOTE(Lopov @ Sep 4 2020, 01:04 PM) *

Are you running the GOTY version?

Yes. From GOG.


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post Sep 4 2020, 07:11 PM
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I had the GOG version as well and I've been using UOP since forever and didn't notice that it'd cause CTDs. In my case problems were other mods and some unsolved conflicts between them, I guess. But as I said, the NV Anti-crash file made the game work like a charm again.


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post Sep 4 2020, 07:30 PM
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I agree... it can't be UOP. I use that as well.
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I dunno. I do not use the Unofficial Patches because in my experience they caused as many bugs as the removed. But everyone's mileage varies on that.


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post Sep 4 2020, 08:46 PM
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^ See, that was my experience with Skryim. There were three main unofficial patches for awhile, then all the sudden the new patch came out, and it was an all-in-one patch, rather than 3 parts. I forget its name. But everyone started using it, so I did too. And it really crushed my game for awhile! mad.gif Going in and out of cells in Windhelm was absolutely brutal, whereas before the patch, my Skyrim was mostly flawless. Even after I removed the patch, I had to go back to an earlier save, because that patch got baked into my save and it was still messing stuff up. Grr...

I hate to ask this one, but what about hardware? What sort of video card have you got Khajiit? Dedicated, or integrated? Sorry, that's rather intrusive. Weaker cards / hardware can be a source of crashes, though.



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QUOTE(Renee @ Sep 4 2020, 02:46 PM) *

^ See, that was my experience with Skryim. There were three main unofficial patches for awhile, then all the sudden the new patch came out, and it was an all-in-one patch, rather than 3 parts. I forget its name. But everyone started using it, so I did too. And it really crushed my game for awhile! mad.gif Going in and out of cells in Windhelm was absolutely brutal, whereas before the patch, my Skyrim was mostly flawless. Even after I removed the patch, I had to go back to an earlier save, because that patch got baked into my save and it was still messing stuff up. Grr...

I hate to ask this one, but what about hardware? What sort of video card have you got Khajiit? Dedicated, or integrated? Sorry, that's rather intrusive. Weaker cards / hardware can be a source of crashes, though.

Lol, I don’t think it’s my hardware, as my machine runs way more modern games with only an occasional hiccup.

But just in case:
GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4gb
CPU: Intel i7 4790k
Memory: 16gb
OS: Win10


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