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ghastley |
Jan 3 2019, 04:00 PM
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Having to change your email provider can be a real pain. The ISP I started with went bankrupt, and their assets were bought by another company, who in turn went bust, too. The company that took over then, closed my account. Each time there were sites that insisted in sending all notifications to the original one, and treated any new email addresses as additional, rather than replacement.
Now I run my own email server, at my own domain, so I only have myself to blame. I've currently got that set up so it can only receive emails, and not send, which prevents anyone trying to forward spam through it. Since verification emails send an HTTP link for confirmation, it works well enough.
My web site had similar problems, with the DNS control being out of my hands until I registered my own domain. That covers web, mail, and everything else I may want to do.
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Mods for The Elder Scrolls single-player games, and I play ESO.
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mALX |
Jan 3 2019, 05:38 PM
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Joined: 14-March 10
From: Cyrodiil, the Wastelands, and BFE TN
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QUOTE(ghastley @ Jan 3 2019, 10:00 AM) Having to change your email provider can be a real pain. The ISP I started with went bankrupt, and their assets were bought by another company, who in turn went bust, too. The company that took over then, closed my account. Each time there were sites that insisted in sending all notifications to the original one, and treated any new email addresses as additional, rather than replacement.
Now I run my own email server, at my own domain, so I only have myself to blame. I've currently got that set up so it can only receive emails, and not send, which prevents anyone trying to forward spam through it. Since verification emails send an HTTP link for confirmation, it works well enough.
My web site had similar problems, with the DNS control being out of my hands until I registered my own domain. That covers web, mail, and everything else I may want to do.
It is really frustrating. I didn't know you could make a server just for email; that is really genius! My son advised me a long time ago to use Gmail instead of using the service providers; but that was actually said over this same email I have now (I had issues with validating my ESO account two years ago over this exact same thing).
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ghastley |
Jan 3 2019, 05:57 PM
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QUOTE(mALX @ Jan 3 2019, 11:38 AM) It is really frustrating. I didn't know you could make a server just for email; that is really genius!
While I could have separate boxes, the mail server and web server run on the same one. It's just a question of the router directing the traffic according to the incoming port. Multiple boxes is in the plans, but the to-do list gets longer ever time I look at it.
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Mods for The Elder Scrolls single-player games, and I play ESO.
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mALX |
Jan 4 2019, 03:18 AM
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Joined: 14-March 10
From: Cyrodiil, the Wastelands, and BFE TN
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QUOTE(ghastley @ Jan 3 2019, 11:57 AM) QUOTE(mALX @ Jan 3 2019, 11:38 AM) It is really frustrating. I didn't know you could make a server just for email; that is really genius!
While I could have separate boxes, the mail server and web server run on the same one. It's just a question of the router directing the traffic according to the incoming port. Multiple boxes is in the plans, but the to-do list gets longer ever time I look at it. It is amazing that you are able to figure all that out! I do have an old computer that is a 10 gig HP tower with Windows 98 upgraded to XP on it. Could something like that be used as an Email server?
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ghastley |
Jan 4 2019, 03:15 PM
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QUOTE(mALX @ Jan 3 2019, 09:18 PM) It is amazing that you are able to figure all that out! I do have an old computer that is a 10 gig HP tower with Windows 98 upgraded to XP on it. Could something like that be used as an Email server?
Yes, older machines with a Linux server build work quite well. The load is quite light, and mine uses an Intel Atom processor and not much memory. I think the disk draws more power than the processor. The issue may be getting a fixed IP address for your system from your provider. I had to have a business line for that (so Verizon could charge more) and register my domain with GoDaddy or someone like that for the DNS service. The last part's cheap -$10 a year is typical. You may even be able to download a completely configured Linux system, and not have to learn much about setting it up.
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mALX |
Jan 4 2019, 05:36 PM
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Ancient
Joined: 14-March 10
From: Cyrodiil, the Wastelands, and BFE TN
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QUOTE(ghastley @ Jan 4 2019, 09:15 AM) QUOTE(mALX @ Jan 3 2019, 09:18 PM) It is amazing that you are able to figure all that out! I do have an old computer that is a 10 gig HP tower with Windows 98 upgraded to XP on it. Could something like that be used as an Email server?
Yes, older machines with a Linux server build work quite well. The load is quite light, and mine uses an Intel Atom processor and not much memory. I think the disk draws more power than the processor. The issue may be getting a fixed IP address for your system from your provider. I had to have a business line for that (so Verizon could charge more) and register my domain with GoDaddy or someone like that for the DNS service. The last part's cheap -$10 a year is typical. You may even be able to download a completely configured Linux system, and not have to learn much about setting it up. I would have to change it to a Linux? I have kept that PC intact to play "Chips Challenge" on it = it is the last computer I have that can play it. Would it still be able to play the Microsoft Entertainment Package?
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ghastley |
Jan 4 2019, 08:47 PM
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If you want to use an old box, that's going to be the only way. You just can't find versions that will run on XP, especially as most Windows ones are made for the Server OS, rather than the desktop one. Linux will generally run on smaller, older machines, as you can strip it down to just the parts you need.
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mALX |
Jan 5 2019, 03:03 AM
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Joined: 14-March 10
From: Cyrodiil, the Wastelands, and BFE TN
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QUOTE(ghastley @ Jan 4 2019, 02:47 PM) If you want to use an old box, that's going to be the only way. You just can't find versions that will run on XP, especially as most Windows ones are made for the Server OS, rather than the desktop one. Linux will generally run on smaller, older machines, as you can strip it down to just the parts you need.
Hmmm, I'd have to think about that because it would mean I'd have no way to play "Chips" again. The OS on that PC comes with "Outlook Express" if I'm not mistaken, would that help?
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ghastley |
Jan 5 2019, 03:56 PM
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QUOTE(mALX @ Jan 4 2019, 09:03 PM) QUOTE(ghastley @ Jan 4 2019, 02:47 PM) If you want to use an old box, that's going to be the only way. You just can't find versions that will run on XP, especially as most Windows ones are made for the Server OS, rather than the desktop one. Linux will generally run on smaller, older machines, as you can strip it down to just the parts you need.
Hmmm, I'd have to think about that because it would mean I'd have no way to play "Chips" again. The OS on that PC comes with "Outlook Express" if I'm not mistaken, would that help? Outlook Express is a mail client, not a server. You'd need Exchange (M$) or Mercury (donationware), or a few others. I used Mercury for a while, and it worked well.
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mALX |
Jan 5 2019, 05:23 PM
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Joined: 14-March 10
From: Cyrodiil, the Wastelands, and BFE TN
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QUOTE(ghastley @ Jan 5 2019, 09:56 AM) QUOTE(mALX @ Jan 4 2019, 09:03 PM) QUOTE(ghastley @ Jan 4 2019, 02:47 PM) If you want to use an old box, that's going to be the only way. You just can't find versions that will run on XP, especially as most Windows ones are made for the Server OS, rather than the desktop one. Linux will generally run on smaller, older machines, as you can strip it down to just the parts you need.
Hmmm, I'd have to think about that because it would mean I'd have no way to play "Chips" again. The OS on that PC comes with "Outlook Express" if I'm not mistaken, would that help? Outlook Express is a mail client, not a server. You'd need Exchange (M$) or Mercury (donationware), or a few others. I used Mercury for a while, and it worked well. BOLD: Oops...but actually; that shows the extent of my knowledge about computers and software, QUOTE(Dark Reaper @ Jan 5 2019, 10:19 AM) Drinking some coffee as we speak.
If I was still able to drink coffee; that would be me 24/7. I'd have to write on here only the times I WASN'T drinking coffee, This post has been edited by mALX: Jan 5 2019, 05:24 PM
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treydog |
Feb 24 2019, 05:02 AM
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Joined: 13-February 05
From: The Smoky Mountains
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All good here- no rivers or streams nearby- and we are a good way up a hill. That said, our next door neighbor's yard and driveway were full of water (which was backing up from the runoff ditches) and said water was running across the street to ANOTHER neighbor's yard, and then waterfalling over a brick retaining wall and so on down to the (eventual) floodplain and intermittent stream. Thank you for thinking of us Hope you (and anyone else affected by this major storm) are okay- some wild pictures from north and west Knoxville- including the fire truck that tipped over when the edge of the road gave underneath it(!)
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