A War Of Houses - Plan And Discussion 7, WoH planning thread Options

[Megil Tel-Zeke]

nothing apart form a battle at ebonheart.

doomed, Megil being the authority of New Vivec has it within his jurisdiction to allo a duel to take place, in fact rules were laid down, Isaarin could have fought back, he just chose to be a coward.

post #47:

"This is between the two of you, do not drag me into it. Please feel free to settle your differences now, it will save many lives and spilt blood to settle this man to man than behind armies,"

there the duel was allowed,

psst #49

"Please Raavin, I will not allow it to go to the death, sometimes a good spar will settle many an issue. I am aware of the chaos that would befall the death of a leader, but a few wounds is not the same as death."

and there the rules are put in to place.

[DoomedOne]

Study up on dueling, both parties have to agree to a duel. Just because your character is the mayor of New Vivec doesn't mean he can walk along the streets telling people they can beat each other senseless.

At most, Megil basically gave Endris permission to smack Isaarin around, in which case his popularity in the city will take a drop.

This post has been edited by DoomedOne: Nov 6 2005, 03:57 AM

[ShogunSniper]

this is getting interesting.

it appears isaarin has screwed over megil and endris.

appears.

i'm sure megil has some clever way to get himself out of it.

[DoomedOne]

Yeah maybe, just for future reference know this is what isaarin does. His morals basically extend to, "How will this make me look?" Therefore, he always covers his boat and always looks at things with the perspective of "what the headlines are going to read" sort of speak. I mean, really you guys screwed yourselves, i warned you when I described Isaarin's character ealier. he's always excruciatingly careful with his words and if you fail to be as careful as he is he will twist your words around. Because Megil failed to state it was a duel but only hinted at it, and Isaarin never accepted any challenge, it was therefore not legally a duel. Because only the sylphs ever saw Wred without his mask, (not including Megil who saw him under the effects of the face changing potion) only they can testify it was him. Sylph eye-witness account < alibi of fighting bravely during the orc/goblin invasion. Why would a guy choose his words so carefully if he didn't reap the rewards from it? If Megil tries to act above the law then Isaarin is going to turn that around too, making it seem like Megil's just arresting people at random, with some underlying hidden motive.

[ShogunSniper]

maybe endris should leave before he gets arrested...

[Channler]

You kbnow what I think...

You can only play up to much political hype before it comes crashing down.. this goes for RL (IE GWB) and in teh RP.. I'd be careful doomed.. After all, your basically saying that everyone agrees with the Hlaalu to begin with, anmd that Isaarin has that much control of the people.

In a land where murder, and conspiracy seems to run rampant I don't see how it would entice the rest of the land to agree with him just cause he got jumped... Just meh thoughts

And I'm sorry about my grammer and spelling.. Im eating right now..

[DoomedOne]

Actually you misunderstand me. I'm saying generally the people of Vvardenfel like what Isaarin has been doing, not Hlaalu, but him. They don't like him, but they think he has accomplished good things. No one really liked Isaarin to begin with, he had to work to gain his popularity by doing exactly what he's doing now, making everything look like a scandal. Isaarin has huge popularity not just as a House Leader but generally as a political activist. The reason is as I stated, he's a fire-starter, he began the regressive movement, and though it's over with it made him famous. Generally, like normal, most people in Vvardenfel don't care either way when it comes to these politicians, just like the US. You have two minorities who are very polarized where they either hate or love certain political figures but most of the population does not. Isaarin understands that the key to his power is tapping into these people and getting them to see injustice. He has said everyone loves a tyrant, and that's true, everyone loves showing off their sense of justice. If Megil does not play his cards right Isaarin will target him.

[ShogunSniper]

whens melkaan gettin assassinated? havent seen dantrag in a while i dont believe...

[Megil Tel-Zeke]

and Megil's realm of influence exceeds those of Isaarin, he has afterall rebuilt Vivec and done it mostly through his own philanthropy. he has ties with the mainland and the empire. he rejects none who come to his door. everyone in Vivec has an equal chance for greatness. His city is the most prosperous inVvardenfell. and he rules the city with an iron fist. And I ahve yet to see isaarin's good works.

This post has been edited by Megil Tel-Zeke: Nov 6 2005, 04:59 AM

[DoomedOne]

Me neither, I don't know where he went. I'd like that to get finished.

EDIT: Yeah but Megil your character is breaking the law. I'm being objective here. Okay, this is the law. Isaarin has put two counts against Endris, that means he has to see trial where Isaarin will have to prove the duel was not legal. If Isaarin cannot prove the duel was not legal then he gets off. Despite that, Isaarin chose to bring him up on charges making it Megil's legal duty to arrest him. Furthermore, you need either a warrant or probable cause to arrest Wred which shows under what grounds your arresting someone. You can't arrest somebody because of their first name.

Now, you're right, Megil is the head of the Justice code there, but if he breaks the law, then his popularity WILL plummet, simple as that. I'm not saying that despite Isaarin's objections Megil couldn't take Wred, but he has to at least give a reason other than, "Because I said so."

This post has been edited by DoomedOne: Nov 6 2005, 05:01 AM

[Florodine of Hlaalu]

is solsteim able to be a part of this RP or would i have to start a whole new RP?

[ShogunSniper]

just to use the island? or to add another plot?

[Florodine of Hlaalu]

well more to use the island, cause i wanted to have a character who was like a skaal kinda person. And plots could form from there, but more just a new land to be on

[ShogunSniper]

well there's the whole blockade thing around vvanderfell so travelling to and fro would be difficult, but i see no reason why you cant use it.

if you start a little sub-plot up there, i may consider throwing in good ole osano.


but this isnt my rp...

[Florodine of Hlaalu]

ok, thanks, well i was actually thinking there'd be two main things up there. The Skaal leader who would most definetely use this as a chance to take the island back and unite all the nords there. And then the factor of the EETC who would now have control of the legionnaires and would tie in with falx needing his help and all.

[ShogunSniper]

well, you should prob wait a little bit and get everyone's feedback before starting something that big, but you have my support.

[DoomedOne]

I don't know Florodine, it's great that you suggested that but that is a huge responsibility to play out that whole sub-plot, especially with what's your plate already.

[Florodine of Hlaalu]

ok thank you very much. I forget the people who are running it. i know intestinal used to, but i think he relinquished that once he was off for like a month. so i have no clue.


Yeah i know what with the silhouette and all. But the silhoutte is more of a temporary main character. Once he and judd systematically destroy miran he will more be a side character like judd is for you. Dalrus is not a high maintnance character, basically she and stauros (soon to be husband, just mine and soulseekr's sub plot) just fulfill hlaalu's order.
However i do agree it is a big thing, so tomorrow when i have had a chance to talk with quite a few people ill start the idea, with the leader of this RP's consent

This post has been edited by Florodine of Hlaalu: Nov 6 2005, 05:15 AM

[DoomedOne]

Oh and Florodine another thing is Darum sort of yelled and threatened to beat a fellow ashlander. It seems like you haven't been paying much attention to the Ashlander storyline, but I think IRL it was 2 or 3 weeks ago when Kaushad shipped everyone out. Your charascter was not actively involved so he wasn't a part of it, but it was already publicly agreed upon that Kaushad would have the power to send off brigades of Ashlanders to start the guerilla war. It's been going on for quite a while and Erabeninsum ashlanders are doing their job. I've even managed to sneak in updates, like when En'Fel was awaiting Amili he overheard a conversation about two Sadrith Mora citizens talking about that mess.

[ShogunSniper]

well teh 4 of us are here, whose turn is it to post?

i'm getting impatient!