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post May 29 2006, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE(LavaLampMaster @ May 29 2006, 07:36 PM)
Once the League of Nations and later the UN were formed, they really wanted to have a hand in the world's future (besides what the crazy people who say we control the world economy and media... which is kinda true); they wanted the land that we used to live on, and after the second world war, they had to use much more... persuasive ideas.
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Well, the protectorate ended, and then pretty much everyone attacked them.

For the Isrealis, Kirk Douglas led the army and Frank Sinatra flew a plane and dropped molotov cocktails, as I remember. Pretty sure they both died.

Still, considering there have been three wars, one pre-emptive strike that didn't become a war, one invasion, one barrage of missles to try and ruin a coalition, one high-profile hostage rescue, countless suicide bombings/army excersions and one kick-boat general with an eyepatch, not to mention one of the best intelligence services in the world (if not THE best), they're not doing too bad for themselves.

Still not going to win a popularity contest with their neighbours, though.


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post May 29 2006, 10:31 PM
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You guys over-generalize christians an awful lot. It's a very small percentage of Christians that will go and ostracize their son for not being a christian. And quite frankly, they aren't very good christians if they do.

I seem to remember Jesus hanging out with 'sinners' more than he did the Pharisees and such. And if we're supposed to try to be like Jesus...you can guess the rest.

I honestly think that most self-procliamed christians aren't actually christians. They just think that they are because it's the accepted thing here in the US.


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post May 30 2006, 01:01 PM
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QUOTE(Dantrag @ May 29 2006, 10:31 PM)
You guys over-generalize christians an awful lot. It's a very small percentage of Christians that will go and ostracize their son for not being a christian. And quite frankly, they aren't very good christians if they do.

I seem to remember Jesus hanging out with 'sinners' more than he did the Pharisees and such. And if we're supposed to try to be like Jesus...you can guess the rest.

I honestly think that most self-procliamed christians aren't actually christians. They just think that they are because it's the accepted thing here in the US.
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Well put. Since Christianity is so immense it impossible to generalize it. There are tons of different kinds of christians as there are different kinds of.. Democrats or whatever you like.. Also as you say, probably a great majority of those who call themselves christians aren't "good" christians (if you can call it that).

That's one of the mayor flaws in religion, the fact that it's so easy to "miss-interpret" and therefore manipulate.

No man/woman today lives as Jesus did, at least not as it sais in the bible, but he set an example as how you should be to your next man. I doubt he actually wanted to be praised as the son of God (if he now was the son of God) but rather wanted people to live as he had tought them too. Today unfortunatly very few people does, christian or whatnot.


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post May 30 2006, 06:29 PM
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I believe in the christian god, loosely, of course. That is due to the fact that I am curious about other religions and easily influenced.

I need to dwell on this more...
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post May 30 2006, 10:40 PM
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QUOTE(Powerslide @ May 30 2006, 06:29 PM)
I believe in the christian god, loosely, of course. That is due to the fact that I am curious about other religions and easily influenced.

I need to dwell on this more...
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May I recommend checking up John Shelby Spong, I'm reading his last book right now "A New Christianity for a New World" and I find it quite interesting. He has a rather "unconvetional" view on Christianity and God or may I say a rather provocative view of it.

You can find some articles written by him here, if you don't want to dive into a whole book from start. smile.gif

Actually I recommend all of you interested in religion (not only christianity) to look him up. His book has made me question quite a lot from the conventional christianity without making me leave christianity all together. (Yes, that's right, I'm Christian smile.gif. )

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post May 30 2006, 10:59 PM
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I prefer to consider myself Agnostic, because I try to respect others' beliefs while maintaining my own. My beliefs are simple:

DIETY(S): God, Gods, Godess, Godesses, Etc...

(1). There may (or may not) be DIETY(S)
(2). If there is/are DIETY(S), He/She/They is/are not my DIETY(S)
(3). Everyone is entitled his/her own theory concerning DIETY(S)

I know only what I see, becuase this is a world of perceptions. Yours are different from mine, and there is nothing wrong with that. I am a nuetral party because in my OPINION (NOT flaming, just expressing) taking either side without actual proof is a tad foolhardy.


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