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| Rane |
May 18 2005, 04:35 PM
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Lurker

Joined: 17-April 05
From: The Land of Confusion

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-----Waiting4Oblivion Proudly Presents: The E3 Thread-----Ok people. It's time to buckle up. We're living in some pretty interesting times right now and by the looks of it, the end is nowhere near. As most of you already know, Bethesda is showing Oblivion at E3 this year. With all the info pouring out from there and other sources we've decided to gather a bunch of the info right here, on your very own Waiting4Oblivion forums. We will have two places where the info will show up. This thread is one of them. The other one is the Special Features page. Look below for direct link. Waiting4Oblivion Special Features---Update---
E3 Demo Summary
2nd day at E3 diary
3rd day at E3 diaryThe goal of this thread is as follows: Anything from previews to reports, Developer statements to possible trailers will be posted here, with links and source locations. Remember to check back for updates. Who knows what tomorrow will bring to us.  We'll be starting off with links to some of the first previews of the game, some screenshots that were published recently and of course, an early version of the very anticipated trailer. Bethesda E3 Team DiaryGamespot previewGamespot screen shotsGamespot Q&A with Todd HowardGamespot early E3 reportUpdate 19.5.05, 11:42 PM GMTActiontrip's previewUpdate 20.5.05, 10:45 AM GMTInterview with Gavin CarterThe Interview in text, by Steerpike lsnDirect download linkUpdate 20.5.05, 00:21 PM GMTIGN Preview on OblivionUpdate 20.5.05, 9:47 PM GMTCNN preview on a few games, including OblivionUpdate 21.5 1:12 AM GMTAlexander's and Stargelman's E3 report and update post on the offical forumsUpdate 21.5.05, 3:01 PM GMTGamespy report on Oblivion demoAnother Gamespy reportUpdate 21.5.05, 10:13 PM GMTHappypuppy.com demo reportAnother Happypuppy.com reportUpdate 21.5.05, 9:25 PM GMTA really good E3 demo report by Boomtown.netUpdate 23.5.05, 8:51 PM GMTGamesMainFrame preview-----Oblivion trailers-----http://xboxmovies.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/19...3-2005-Trailer/http://www.gamespot.com/x360/rpg/theelders...vion/media.htmlDirect download linkMicrosoft briefing, Oblivion footage at 5:40 in the file---THE OFFICIAL TRAILER---84.3MB - High Definition DivX AVI Movie http://www.bethsoft.com/downloads/video/Ob...ailerDIVXHD.avi77.4MB - Hi-res Quicktime Movie http://www.bethsoft.com/downloads/video/Ob...railerLarge.mov15.3MB - Low-res Windows Media Movie http://www.bethsoft.com/downloads/video/Ob...railerSmall.wmvUpdate 20.5.05, 2:27 PM GMTMore E3 footage of Oblivion, by IGN
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| Lucidarius |
Jun 11 2005, 09:29 PM
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Evoker
Joined: 11-June 05
From: East of the sun, west of the moon

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The two interviews revealed something new (e.g. vampires are in), and expanded on other things (e.g. we will be able to buy/receive houses in the 9 major cities). You have really done a lot of work - and good. :goodjob:
IMO it is reasonable that the majority of weapons and monsters will be leveled, although a few of them will be totally über/strong so we can never be too sure when we walk into a dungeon. Good for the suspense that there can be surprises.
I'm relieved that we don't need to drink/eat/sleep. That will only be optional. I've tried two mods for MW (AND changed the time so that 1 real hour = 1 hour in game), but I always end up disabling the mods because it is too much of a hassle to administrate those basic needs and also take care of quests/exploring. I find the above-mentioned needs annoying in real life too, like when I want to play for hours on end, I do have to take those needs into consideration or risk falling asleep in school or be in a nasty mood until I've slept enough. Sigh. Nice not to worry about them in games, too.
Mages will have weaker spells when wearing armor: Ok. I just hope they balance the magic system and the unarmored skill so that both are viable as sole choices as opposed to MW where I always need to use weapons too and use e.g. the dodge mod in combination with unarmored.
Bethesda has stated earlier that they want the three major "career" paths (magic, stealth, warrior) to stand on their own. Hopefully, it will be well implemented.
Now, I look forward to hearing more about the magics, the elven crystals, and the cons and pros of the races and birthsigns. I hope Bethesda will release those soon.
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| MerGirl |
Jun 12 2005, 01:38 AM
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Mouth

Joined: 11-May 05

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[quote=Rane]]
To me it does indeed sound like you don't have to reload if the NPC in question is no longer needed.
However, if the NPC is needed for the mainquest then you will be forced to reload if you happen to kill him/her.[/quote]
Oh, that's good!  Sometimes, I get scared, because once in awhile, I accidently hit NPC's and then I have to kill them because they're hitting me, and then I would be like, "Oh, no! What if he/she was important to the Main Quest?!"
Yay! Now us killing-spree peoples don't have to worry about continuing a 'broken' game! *dances*
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| 9of9 |
Jun 12 2005, 06:15 AM
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Finder

Joined: 31-May 05

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[quote=MerGirl][quote=Rane]]
To me it does indeed sound like you don't have to reload if the NPC in question is no longer needed.
However, if the NPC is needed for the mainquest then you will be forced to reload if you happen to kill him/her.[/quote]
Oh, that's good!  Sometimes, I get scared, because once in awhile, I accidently hit NPC's and then I have to kill them because they're hitting me, and then I would be like, "Oh, no! What if he/she was important to the Main Quest?!"
Yay! Now us killing-spree peoples don't have to worry about continuing a 'broken' game! *dances*[/quote]
Morrowind was set up in exactly the same manner though - when you kill an MQ character you would get a message box popping up that said this was an MQ character and advising you to reload. Unlike Oblivion however, you weren't forcced to reload if that was the case - it was only optional. So people complain why they have to reload and can't go round on killingsprees now even if you don't give a fonkey's about the MQ
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| stargelman |
Jun 12 2005, 10:35 AM
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Senor Snore

Joined: 8-February 05
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[quote=MerGirl]I really hope the magic will be much more... useful. And I hope it's not too much of a hassle just to cast it.
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Steve Meister personally promised me it will be much better than in Morrowind, so yeah.
One thing that I already know has improved is the spell casting animation: doesn't take half an ice age anymore to cast something. If you've ever played Doom and remember that Hell Knight's firing animation, that's what I remember the spell casting animation in Oblivion to be like: just as if you threw something at someone.
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| MerGirl |
Jun 12 2005, 05:55 PM
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Mouth

Joined: 11-May 05

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[quote=9of9]
Morrowind was set up in exactly the same manner though - when you kill an MQ character you would get a message box popping up that said this was an MQ character and advising you to reload. Unlike Oblivion however, you weren't forcced to reload if that was the case - it was only optional. So people complain why they have to reload and can't go round on killingsprees now even if you don't give a fonkey's about the MQ  [/quote]
Really? I never noticed this.  Well, I hope in Oblivion, that this re-loading thing also includes important people for faction/subquests as well.
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| Daikirai |
Jun 18 2005, 04:46 PM
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[quote]Really? I never noticed this.  Well, I hope in Oblivion, that this re-loading thing also includes important people for faction/subquests as well.[/quote]
I probably misunderstood what I read, but I thought that I heared that joining a guild/faction was nessasary, since it would tie into the main quest. I could be (and probably am) wrong, though.
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| MerGirl |
Jul 2 2005, 03:33 PM
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Mouth

Joined: 11-May 05

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[quote=Daikirai]
I probably misunderstood what I read, but I thought that I heared that joining a guild/faction was nessasary, since it would tie into the main quest. I could be (and probably am) wrong, though.[/quote]
Why would it be necessary? Unless you're talking about in Morrowind, where you automatically join the Blades because it's part of the plot. (Which I hated with a passion!) Luckily, you were never forced to keep in contact with these guys ever again.
I do not think you have to a join a faction/guild, unless you want. I think they meant that the factions/guilds will be like... subplots, I guess.
I do not want to be forced to join a group ever again like they did in Morrowind. That would be annoying and limits on what kind of character I want to play as and limits a bit of my freedom on my decisions. (None of my characters, if they had a choice, would ever join the Blades in the first place).
(EDIT: Darn you, double-negatives! I hate the English language sometimes!)
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| Daikirai |
Jul 3 2005, 08:24 PM
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[quote=MerGirl][quote=Daikirai]
I probably misunderstood what I read, but I thought that I heared that joining a guild/faction was nessasary, since it would tie into the main quest. I could be (and probably am) wrong, though.[/quote]
Why would it be necessary? Unless you're talking about in Morrowind, where you automatically join the Blades because it's part of the plot. (Which I hated with a passion!) Luckily, you were never forced to keep in contact with these guys ever again.
I do not think you have to a join a faction/guild, unless you want. I think they meant that the factions/guilds will be like... subplots, I guess.
I do not want to be forced to join a group ever again like they did in Morrowind. That would be annoying and limits on what kind of character I want to play as and limits a bit of my freedom on my decisions. (None of my characters, if they had a choice, would ever join the Blades in the first place).
(EDIT: Darn you, double-negatives! I hate the English language sometimes!)[/quote]
The twist is that literally less thann half of the people who'd even played Morrowind had beaten the main quest.
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