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Ibis
post Aug 14 2006, 06:59 AM
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I'm starting this new topic because I'm trying to learn to use my Wacom pad & stylus pen better because I want to do FanArt in my computer. I've been a watercolor/pastel drawing artist all my life, but I want to learn digital art. My attempts right now are childish compared to traditional arts by me - whenever I use Paint program whether with mouse or stylus pen, I feel like I'm learning to fingerpaint all over again....fun but messy!
Anyone who has digital art tips - I'd sure appreciate them. All comments welcome too. So here goes ...

This is one of my pastel drawing floral arrangements just entitled MIRROR:
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h155/Sun.../mirrorSALE.jpg

... compared with this digital floral I just did, yes it's for Pisces called AMADEUS UNDERWATER FLORAL:
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h155/Sun...waterFloral.jpg
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This is a digital portrait I just imagined and drew using a small microsoft mouse, I named it MIRRORED BLUSH:
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h155/Sun...rroredBlush.jpg

Here's someone a little similar, she's the first portrait I ever painted in watercolors from a Nathional Geographic magazine cover - I call her NOMAD WOMAN:
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h155/Sun...lorfaceSALE.jpg

* I do make large kaleidoscopic eyes sometimes on purpose.
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Here is a WINGED MESSENGER, a delivery elf of sorts ... done digitally with a mouse trackball.
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h155/Sun...edMessenger.jpg

A comparably ornately dressed INDIAN GIRL from a Burrlington wool ad that I drew in pastels (you can see I had to change brands of pastels from chalky to creamy where I finished the hands ... lolol)
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h155/Sun...astel-4SALE.jpg
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Okay, here's a really bad one .... my first attempt with the stylus pen while in the pencil mode called TWO-STEP SCRABBLE:
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h155/Sun...tepscrabble.jpg

Here are some pastel studies of someone who really knew how to dance .. DAVID LEE ROTH:
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h155/Sun...LRofVH4SALE.jpg

* Forgot I gave it a rug texture to make it a tapestry in a Morrowind mod.
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Since about 1995 I've cpmputer-repaired some of my hand-done art that had gotten damaged (Florida humidity & palmetto bugs are heck on paintings - I've lost some too far gone.) And I learned to enhance and even totally change my artwork via the computer - but have only recently really gotten the drive to draw digitally. Just a few enhancement examples:

This was a rather washed out grey-to-brownish pastel drawing of MESA VERDE from a photo by my sisiter. When I did a negative of the colors though and played around a little with the color values, it became much more interesting digitally than on paper:
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h155/Sun...light-4sale.jpg

These two came from a decent bright summers day pastel drawing - but you can see the variations available digitally from the same picture IBISES:
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h155/Sun...eIbisesSALE.jpg
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h155/Sun...icTile-sale.jpg

This watercolor called BLUE EGRET I simply repaired digitally because I used childsafe watercolors to draw it (our bands guitarist had 4 little girls who used to paint in my studio) but after I hanging it on the wall, I got the shocking awareness that palmetto bugs like to suck the paint. Luckily I could make the damage look like ripples and raindrops.
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h155/Sun...framed-sale.jpg
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Well, that's my little tour for now anyway. I would have spaced this out more over several posts but when I came online today, the forum skin has changed and dummy me - I can't figure out how to find the REPLY button to any of the threads. blink.gif

So tell me what you think of my art attempts, ok? Any problems you see should be addressed, that's what I'm looking to fix. I realize I just have to get more practice with the digital art but it is frustrating to have everything you do look like some little kid did it. Teehehehe They could probably do much better, come to think of it!





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post Aug 21 2006, 11:36 PM
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W.I.P.

This is an Altmer girl sitting on a couch that I'm attempting in Photo Finish and it is an easier program to use than Paint ... everyone was right about that. I've used it for year to change my retextures for Morrowind mods so I'm trying it now since I'm familiar with all it's functions. I'm still planning to try out all the programs kindly suggested by people here for digital art.

So, what do I do with her now? To make her more realistic? That is the reason my digital art looks so childish, I lack the knowledge of giving more digital detail. I know how to shade & shadow & blend & highlight with traditional methods ... but I will have to figure out how to do all that digitally.

I may try some of the Blend, darken/lighten functions of Photo Finish but the thing is it changes the whole picture at a time. I really have to learn this layering thing.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g144/Ath...girloncouch.jpg



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post Aug 22 2006, 01:29 PM
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First, I am not an artist nor do I play one on TV (pop culture reference). However, I am married to an artist, so--

Although you seem most interested in figurative art, I think that is the hardest to master in any medium. Might be worth stepping back to landscape, still-life, and/or architectural to develop techniques for digital. Work on expanding your palette and blending colors to develop more depth. Definitely explore layers (for depth, but also as a way of testing concepts). The great thing about layers is that you can do some work, merge the result temporarily and decide that it isn't what you wanted- no problem. Save lots of stages so you don't have to repair too much if something isn't working.

Also, see if you can find Digital Character Design and Painting: The Photoshop CS Edition by Don Seegmiller. That is a very good resource for how to create fantasy/game characters using Photoshop. Another possibility (more general reference) is The Photoshop and Painter Artist Tablet Book: Creative Techniques in Digital Painting by Cher Threinen-Pendarvis. Books are teh expensive, so you might want to browse at a bookstore and pick something that matches the results you want.

Bottom line- with your traditional art background, you are actually ahead of the curve. Get the tools (software, brush plug-ins, etc.) to achieve your goals and the only limit will be your imagination.

ETA- A way to make the particular picture easier would be to use a photograph of an appropriate subject as a baseline. Get someone to photograph you or someone else on a couch/chair, etc. and then begin to modify the image to get the effect you want

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post Aug 22 2006, 06:38 PM
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Again - Thank You Mr. Dog married to Rabbit!

Yes, I see what you mean. I think landscape would be a good place to practice and until I learn to layer properly with a digital program ... it just occurred to me while reading your post that I could build a landscape in the traditional way I was taught ... make the farthest back background first and blend/shade/etc. it and then put my closer and closer object upon it 0 while digitally rendering the image in stages as it grows. That way the foreground could be criisp & immediate. I will try that! biggrin.gif


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