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Wolfie |
May 25 2005, 12:06 AM
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As am i lol
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 D�anaim smaoineamh, d� bhr� sin, t�im ann - Descartes Only the dead have seen the end of war ~ Plato Fairy tales do not tell children the dragons exist. Children already know that dragons exist. Fairy tales tell children the dragons can be killed. - G.K. Chesterton EnsamVarg
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Wolfie |
May 25 2005, 12:08 AM
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sure ok
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 D�anaim smaoineamh, d� bhr� sin, t�im ann - Descartes Only the dead have seen the end of war ~ Plato Fairy tales do not tell children the dragons exist. Children already know that dragons exist. Fairy tales tell children the dragons can be killed. - G.K. Chesterton EnsamVarg
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jonajosa |
May 25 2005, 12:26 AM
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death penalty is right in some cases. so i support it.
Religion should not be disscused here at the forums.
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Wolfie |
May 25 2005, 12:44 AM
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no, i wasn' born for a long time after it
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 D�anaim smaoineamh, d� bhr� sin, t�im ann - Descartes Only the dead have seen the end of war ~ Plato Fairy tales do not tell children the dragons exist. Children already know that dragons exist. Fairy tales tell children the dragons can be killed. - G.K. Chesterton EnsamVarg
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DoomedOne |
May 25 2005, 01:13 AM
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[quote=Channler]No it shouldn't , because I would have to convert you all... Remeber the spanish inquisition!?
[/quote] Death Penalty [quote]
I'm for the death penalty, why?
People that kill one another in our nation is wrong, and I'm sure thats elsewhere too
I don't know about you but I don't want some child killer around my little bros
costs to much money for life imprisonment, besides even if they say there is no chance for parole they can still obtain it..[/quote]
Deeath penalty is more then 8 time as expensive as life in prison in certain states.
In Texas, the death pentalty is more than 3 times as expensive as 40 years in prison at the highest security they can offer.
Accounted since 1976 we've spent over 1 biullion dollars extra on executions than we would have if we gave them all life in prison.
Throw the cost out of the window now:
The United Staes is the only 1st world country that has sentenced someone to death in the last 10 years.
There is absolutely no evidence that the death penalty makes people less likely to murder, rape, or commit treason. When there was a complete ban on the death penalty in 1986-1988, there was absolutely no rise in any of those crimes.
Since 1973 119 people have been released from death row because they were later proven innocent.
Countless more have been proven innocent after they were executed.
There have been 16 cases of evidence that they were innocent that the courts chose to ignore so the convicts were executed anyway.
There was one case where a man was proven by DNA evidence to be innocent before he was executed, and executed anyway.
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A man once asked the Buddha, "How does one escape the heat of the summer sun?"
And the Buddha replied, "Why not try crawling into the blazing furnace?"
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DoomedOne |
May 25 2005, 04:19 AM
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No, that is a flaw of appeals, and of government. The only way to abolish that flaw is to abolish the death penatly. People will wrongly charge anyone, it does not matter, because this is all evidence that comes to play AFTER they've been sent to death row. That means ahigher courts are receiving this information, and on sixteen occasions said, "I don't care, kill them anyways." On one of those occasions it was DNA evidence proving beyond reasonable doubt he was innocent. In fact, the appeals court conforimed this evidence, and he was still fried.
Where you cannot perfect a process of life and death, you cannot use it. It is that simple. This is a matter of injustice to the highest level, murder. In each case where an innocent was executed, every person that played a part in that execution is guilty of conspiracy to commit murder. Every person in favor of the death penalty is indirectly responsible for every execution under the system they support, whether innocent or not.
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A man once asked the Buddha, "How does one escape the heat of the summer sun?"
And the Buddha replied, "Why not try crawling into the blazing furnace?"
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Hammergand |
May 25 2005, 11:15 AM
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Joined: 23-May 05
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Pity about no religion here, that's the only debate I am interested in...
I do not believe in evolution.
I am against abortion, unless mother was in danger of dying.
Unsure about death penalty. Some crimes warrant such action, but... :paperbag2:
[quote=DoomedOne]Religion (I especially love arguing against the end of times but it's so difficult finding someone who actually believes in revelation)[/quote]
You've found one.
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Wolfie |
May 25 2005, 05:42 PM
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Joined: 14-March 05
From: Dublin, Ireland

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Hear hear
All praise Minque, Protector of the Peace! :rofl:
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 D�anaim smaoineamh, d� bhr� sin, t�im ann - Descartes Only the dead have seen the end of war ~ Plato Fairy tales do not tell children the dragons exist. Children already know that dragons exist. Fairy tales tell children the dragons can be killed. - G.K. Chesterton EnsamVarg
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Elongar |
May 25 2005, 06:19 PM
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Joined: 19-February 05
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Minque, the W4O General Secretary!
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Power of the Shadow made human flesh,
wakened to turmoil, strife and ruin.
The Reborn One, marked and bleeding,
dances the sword in dreams and mist,
chains the Shadowsworn to his will,
from the city, lost and forsaken,
leads the spears to war once more,
breaks the spears and makes them see,
truth long hidden in the ancient dream.
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jonajosa |
May 25 2005, 09:01 PM
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[quote=Fuzzy Knight][quote=Elongar]Minque, the W4O General Secretary![/quote]
of Peace..  [/quote]
and security.
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