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[Aki]

[quote=jonajosa]I wasn;t saying that you said that. I was talking about how scientists and their Theorys run the schools now.

I mean if i came from a monkey. Then why arn't the animals changing now like they said they did. Records go back for hundreds of years describiing animals and people still cant find the diffrence between the animals now and back then.

That science teacher needs to be taken out of school. Their not allowed to say stuff like that in school.[/quote]

Because Evolution takes a long time, because they don't need too, because we affect them too much.

Theres alot of factors.

[quote]I was talking about monkeys. Do we see them evolving? We just see them pick up a stick and dig in the ground with it for food. Thats called instinct. Which is driven by hunger in that case.[/quote]

Thats because they got a system that WORKS, they don't NEED to evolve Jona, so they'll be the same for now.

[jonajosa]

Tell me this then. If we evolved from monkeys where are the half ape men now. It reasonable to belive that if we evoloved then we'd still be evolving right now. Did the monkeys stop for a few ages? Then start again when some sientist thigs their a intelligble reason for that monkey to digging in the ground? Affect them to much? ha. Thats a smart answer for defending them because you can't prove they are evolving. Tell me have you seen these "smart animals" change in any way? Also, "they'll be the same for now", keep saying that untill you die. they all said that. Back in the 60s. "They'll be the same for now." They'll keep being the same because they don't change.

If evolution takes time then loaf of bread roaches addabting to poisin would take years for all the genes in their body to learn to resist it. Adabition is what happened.

"The oldest recorded human being is 3.18 million years old', This info is unreliable and you know it. Carbon dating is can be off by up to 60% and higher when it reaches numbers up that high.

Again istinct is what drives animals to "Group hunt". All animals do it. Is that cheeta over there going to start walking anytime soon. Can you prove that he won't?

That teacher shows a deep lack of understanding of what people believe in. Hes wrong to say that theres no god. Can he prove that? As you know from persona;l experiance here jokin gcan sometimes be taken wrong even if it was just plain fun.

[DoomedOne]

[quote=jonajosa]Tell me this then. If we evolved from monkeys where are the half ape men now.[/quote]

We did not evolve from monkeys. In science class, you were never told we evolved from monkeys. Primates and humans share a common evolutionary ancestor. That is, there was once this animal that evolved here and there, so long ago that it branched off into all the sifferent animals like monkey, chimps, baboons, humans, etcetera.

[quote]It reasonable to belive that if we evoloved then we'd still be evolving right now.[/quote]

We are evolving right now. You are subtly diverse from the natural combination of both your parents genes. That is, you have genetic changes unaccounted for by your parents genes. Everyone does. That's how evolution happens.

[quote] Did the monkeys stop for a few ages? Then start again when some sientist thigs their a intelligble reason for that monkey to digging in the ground? Affect them to much? ha. Thats a smart answer for defending them because you can't prove they are evolving.[/quote]

They never stops. Evolution is slow but is ALWAYS occurring, sometimes in small bouts, other times in giant leaps. If a monkey is born with the genetic tools to survive better than the other monkeys, so he reproduces more offspring then them, then that is evolution.

[quote] Tell me have you seen these "smart animals" change in any way? Also, "they'll be the same for now", keep saying that untill you die. they all said that. Back in the 60s. "They'll be the same for now." They'll keep being the same because they don't change.[/quote]

That's 40 years. See me again in 40,000

[quote]If evolution takes time then loaf of bread roaches addabting to poisin would take years for all the genes in their body to learn to resist it. Adabition is what happened.[/quote]

You still don't understand how it works. There might be one tiny gene in their body that needs to change in order for them to be immune to that poison. Well, some of them will have naturally already had that gene changed by random diversity. That small fraction will survive against the poison and continue to spread their race, while the ones that did not have that gene changed will die.

[quote]"The oldest recorded human being is 3.18 million years old', This info is unreliable and you know it. Carbon dating is can be off by up to 60% and higher when it reaches numbers up that high.[/quote]

You also don't seem to know how carbon dating works. See, carbon in your bodie as you decompose goes through this this half life period, where carbon keeps leaving the dead organism. They measure how much carbon is left, and figure what the date is that it had a complete amount of carbon. It's not completely accurate, but for 3 million years, 60% is unlikely. For a few billion years 60% is not likely. One time people ehard, "Yeah well we're not compeltely accurate with carbon dating" and no suddenly evolution was compeltely confounded. Juding by the possible innaccuracy of Lucy's age, it's possible she was born from 2.18 million years ago to 3.20 million eyars ago. The farther you go back, the less difference it makes how inaccurate the dating is. My point still stands.

[quote]Again istinct is what drives animals to "Group hunt". All animals do it. Is that cheeta over there going to start walking anytime soon. Can you prove that he won't?[/quote]

1. They evolved to have instinct

2. No all animals group hunt, very few animals group hunt. Wgales, dolhpins, lions, wolves, african hunting dogs, a few more.

3. The cheeta can walk. Do you mean on two legs? It's unlikely unless a cheeta that can walk upright has a better chance of survival against a cheeta that can't.

4. I can't prove that one day it won't be necessary for them to walk upright, but at this current time their niche requires them to walk on all fours because they are solo hunters and therefore have to outrun their prey.

[quote]That teacher shows a deep lack of understanding of what people believe in. Hes wrong to say that theres no god. Can he prove that? As you know from persona;l experiance here jokin gcan sometimes be taken wrong even if it was just plain fun.[/quote]

He understands exactly what people believe in because he's a devout jew himself. He simply believes in science class you deal with what you can prove based on the laws of sicence. Does that mean any scientist believes they're dealing ina absolute truth? No, but the laws of sicence are the closest humans can get to absolute truth.

[jonajosa]

I shall stop with this evolution stuff. But don't think you won Doomedone! I shall be the real man and end this before it goes to far(which it was about to)

But stiil on the same topic of evolution, Have any of you seen the movie Evolution?

[DoomedOne]

I don't think I won because you stopped arguing. I think I won because I have 5 billions years of proof to back me up. I was just getting warmed up. I was pulling out all my evolution charts, my ten apge essay on evolution, a 15 page report in national geographic about all the proof of evolution...

By the way, you can't say you're the bigger man by ending the argument, because all you're doing is goading your adversary.

And no, I never saw Evolution.

[Wolfie]

yes, and it was brilliant
I especially like the part when they kill the dragon, it drops the woman, and she just goes "i'll never shoplift again, i promise" :rofl:

[minque]

I think it takes a man to be wise enough to end a discussion that might be off hand.....yes i said might!

And it´s not a question of win or loose......it´s a discussion fot pete´s sake..

[jonajosa]

Sometimes the real man is the one whos knows when to stop. Sorry you had to pull out all that stuff for nothing.

Im not goading anyone. I stoped it then and there. No more eco crap here. If we want to discuss things llike that we chould take it t the paralement thread.

You need to see it. Its really funny. In the words of the reading rainbow guy, "But don't take my word for it..."

[Wolfie]

So for those of you who have seen SW3, did you like it? or was it a disappointment?

[DoomedOne]

Was it that movie with that gigantic monster? Yeah I saw it actually. It was alright.

Also, it takes a real man to admit when he's wrong. You said you were a real man right? Come on... come on...

[jonajosa]

Havn't seen it.

[Dantrag]

agreed, minque, like you said, it was more of a debate or discussion than an argument, there was no insulting or flaming, so it's all good.

[DoomedOne]

I found nothing wrong with it but he wanted to end it. I hope some of you learned something though.

[jonajosa]

ITs just that it should have been in the other thread with stuff like this in it.

But yes i too hope you learned things from it. Its good for people to view both sides of the "story" when it comes to certian topics. Lets us see the whole view.

[Wolfie]

news.telegraph
check this out. It''s just not right

[DoomedOne]

There's also a problem with how she raised the kids. Strangely enough, most children manage to get through highschool without having a single kid. That was before the moved sex education up to fifth grade.

[MerGirl]

[quote=LoneWolf]news.telegraph
check this out. It''s just not right[/quote]

Holy freak! :shocked: Wow, um, really responsible much?

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I'm too speechless. Man, I would kill myself if I had kids that young...

Couldn't they just give away the babies for adoption? Or is that not possible where they are? :verysad: Or is those kids REALLY want that kind of responsiblity? Especially the youngest one... My goodness... :ashamed:

[DoomedOne]

[quote=MerGirl][quote=LoneWolf]news.telegraph
check this out. It''s just not right[/quote]

Holy freak! :shocked: Wow, um, really responsible much?

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I'm too speechless. Man, I would kill myself if I had kids that young...

Couldn't they just give away the babies for adoption? Or is that not possible where they are? :verysad: Or is those kids REALLY want that kind of responsiblity? Especially the youngest one... My goodness... :ashamed:[/quote]

That's giving up too easily. When life gives you lemons you make lemonade.

[Dantrag]

or in that case, don't give yourself lemons in the first place. They definately were not forced to do it, nor were they forced not to use contraception. I feel absolutely no pity for them.

[Channler]

WTF is up with that!? A 12 year old?! OMG that is so wrong there is no discription for that...