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DoomedOne
post May 23 2005, 11:55 PM
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Here's what's after death: This world. Your family, your children, grand children. Your friends' children

Here's what Heaven is: leaving this world in ebtter condition than as it was when you entered it

Here's what Hell is: leaving this world in a worse condition than it was when you entered it.

There, afterlife. See? great isn't it? Also, more definitions:

Soul: The memory of you that lives on in people's minds. Your lasting advice and guidance of other people that will help them make the world better as well.

People fear death so they want something tangible after death. Well, I think the enxt generation of people is tangible enough.


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post May 23 2005, 11:58 PM
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[quote=Hammergand]Heh heh, I know there is something after death. :paperbag:[/quote]

You Do??? Been there or what? :shocked:


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post May 24 2005, 12:01 AM
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I'm a Christian. It's one of the centre-points of my belief that Heaven exists. biggrin.gif
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post May 24 2005, 12:02 AM
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[quote=DoomedOne]Here's what's after death: This world. Your family, your children, grand children. Your friends' children

Here's what Heaven is: leaving this world in ebtter condition than as it was when you entered it

Here's what Hell is: leaving this world in a worse condition than it was when you entered it.

There, afterlife. See? great isn't it? Also, more definitions:

Soul: The memory of you that lives on in people's minds. Your lasting advice and guidance of other people that will help them make the world better as well.

People fear death so they want something tangible after death. Well, I think the enxt generation of people is tangible enough.[/quote]

But what about other afterlife's? I'm pretty sure people have different views on afterlife. What about those who believe in reincarnation, etc.?
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post May 24 2005, 12:03 AM
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I'm christian too, but i'm still not so sure about the heaven/hell thing


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post May 24 2005, 12:05 AM
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same here...


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post May 24 2005, 12:06 AM
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[quote=LoneWolf]I'm christian too, but i'm still not so sure about the heaven/hell thing[/quote]

My dad's one, too! And he doesn't truly believe the whole afterlife thing, either... :ashamed: People have different views whether or not they are part of a specific group...?
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post May 24 2005, 12:08 AM
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I believe in an afterlife, but not the standard christian one.


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post May 24 2005, 12:09 AM
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You're a Christian but you don't believe in Heaven?

Those are direct contradictions to me.
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post May 24 2005, 12:11 AM
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I'm not your standard christian biggrin.gif
and i never said i don't believe in heaven, i just don't believe in the standard one that the bible and whatnot talk about. Call me a heretic if you want, i don't care


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post May 24 2005, 12:11 AM
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[quote=MerGirl][quote=DoomedOne]Here's what's after death: This world. Your family, your children, grand children. Your friends' children

Here's what Heaven is: leaving this world in ebtter condition than as it was when you entered it

Here's what Hell is: leaving this world in a worse condition than it was when you entered it.

There, afterlife. See? great isn't it? Also, more definitions:

Soul: The memory of you that lives on in people's minds. Your lasting advice and guidance of other people that will help them make the world better as well.

People fear death so they want something tangible after death. Well, I think the enxt generation of people is tangible enough.[/quote]

But what about other afterlife's? I'm pretty sure people have different views on afterlife. What about those who believe in reincarnation, etc.?[/quote]

They distract people from the bigger picture.

Here's some background for you guys. I used to suffer from acute thanatophobia, or fear of death. My family was christian, so i assumed the only palce for me to turn to was christianity, and the idea that heaven existed helped me. But I had the sort of personality that just liked to pick things apart and analiyze them, and it got in the way of my religion. How could God consider himself such a good judge of character? Why do unborn babies have to sit in limbo until God figures out what to do with them if he's such a supreme being? Why do homosexuals go to Hell? What if homosexual saved like 300 hundred people from a burning building? Etcetera. So, eventually it wasn't belief in Heaven that got me through it, but just accepting death as an inevitability and not dwindling on it. It took a while to finally hit the revelation. These days after I wake up and suddenly think, "Time flashes before my eyes. I'm going to die someday." I later think, "So what?"

Some people need an afterlife to help them deal with issues, but for those that don't need it, I suggest you live for today.


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post May 24 2005, 12:18 AM
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[quote=Hammergand]You're a Christian but you don't believe in Heaven?

Those are direct contradictions to me.[/quote]

To me, not really. Because Christians believe in the same God right? My family has faith in Him, and whatever happens, happens.

Also, I don't agree with the Bible entirely. It's a bit too... I'm not sure, but it does not match some of my own views.

I believe in good morals and a good and kind god, but having to worship one specific god in order to escape hell is a bit... much... *shrugs* Sounds like brainwashing to me.

Also, why do only certain kinds of people go to hell? I've met some very nice homosexual guys and mean heterosexual guys and vice-versa. Who goes to hell?

Bleh, I really don't like to talk about religion, so I'm not going to reply anymore. *tiptoes out of thread*
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post May 24 2005, 12:29 AM
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[quote=LoneWolf]Well you'd fight them two for tearing your country apart. They completely destroyed our culture and practically made our language exticnt. I'm Irish, yet i can barely speak/understand the Gaeilge!! everything is as Bearla now over here.[/quote]

Hey I didn't realize you were from Ireland LoneWolf! I was born there! Not sure where though... I'm 1/4 irish, god knows what Crete Indian (Yea those bad warrior indians, truly savages) and add a lil italian into the mix.. plus a little english, and scottish, and spanish, did I mention my anscestors were very.. "happy" people? biggrin.gif

EDIT: BTW I am a proud christian.. even though sometimes I'm not the best. I believe what I believe but I don't think homo's will go to hell.

Why not talk about it.. but a better place to prob discuss it would be in the discusion thread I made..


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post May 24 2005, 12:32 AM
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Lol biggrin.gif
People form all over the world seem to have a little irish in them. It's from the huge amount of emigration after the great famine


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post May 24 2005, 12:33 AM
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[quote=LoneWolf]Lol biggrin.gif
People form all over the world seem to have a little irish in them. It's from the huge amount of emigration after the great famine[/quote]

Talkin bout' dad'gum man... dem der irish is everywherez!


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post May 24 2005, 12:34 AM
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lol biggrin.gif
wait..............should i find that insulting? biggrin.gif


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post May 24 2005, 12:34 AM
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I'm not Irish.


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post May 24 2005, 12:35 AM
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No one said you were


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post May 24 2005, 12:40 AM
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The only thing bad I can say about the Irish is that they are a lover of beer, or that the stearotype.. wait thats a good thing!

Minque where do you keep the beer! *pokes his head behind the counter*


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post May 24 2005, 12:41 AM
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[quote=LoneWolf]No one said you were[/quote]

That's good.


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