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treydog
post Mar 17 2006, 03:51 PM
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As we seem to have achieved a "critical mass" of writers here, I thought I would begin a thread regarding how it is we do this thing called "writing." The idea of this discussion is to maybe help each other with the creative process and also talk about how we deal with "writer's block."

Here is my process- please note that I do not believe that everyone (or anyone else has to write this way. It is simply what works for me.

Before I ever wrote the first word of Trey, I had made up my mind as to who he was, how he felt about certain things, what his "values" were. He dislikes Imperials and the Empire, hates slavery, isn't very good with authority figures, is perfectly willing to steal (although not from the poor or weak), etc.

I keep a spiral notebook in which I write dialogue, scenes, etc. in longhand. Even though I have been using a computer for (mumble-mumble) years, the act of actually writing in pen and on paper helps me connect with the material. Although I try to maintain a certain flow (chronological in the case of Trey), I have learned from bitter experience to write down EVERYTHING right when I think of it, even if it won't show up in the story until much later. To assist with finding those orphan ideas, I use different colored pens and assign them numbers. Then, when it is time, I just make a note to myself, thus "Insert 15." I usually do not write every word that appears in the final, just as much as I need to get going. Sometimes it's more, sometimes it's less.

Because I am doing a straight MQ story, I depend heavily on the Construction Set to get the in-game dialogue right. On the other hand, I consider how Trey will react to certain characters and situations and "create" conversations are needed if things are to make sense

Once I have enough (usually 3-6 pages) manuscript, I go to Word and begin turning my scribbling into real story. A lot of composing and creating takes place at the keyboard. The manuscript may simply say "Temple Informant." I will take actual dialogue, plus maybe some additional conversation to show the interaction between Trey and the NPC and develop the scene. A quick spell check (Word hates ES names), and I am ready for the next step.

The most important part of the process is the read-through. This is the place where I read the installment out loud to the talented and patient Mrs. Treydog. The purpose of this is to ensure that the writing "flows." If something I am reading "clunks" when read out loud, it needs to be fixed. I also find typos or missing words during the read-through. Additionally, Mrs. Treydog may ask questions or provide other suggestions.

Example- in the scene with Delitian she asked me, "How does the captain know who Trey is?"

So I wrote in the "I am Trey of High Rock" bit. Interestingly, the "... I've heard the name" response is already in-game.

Once I have fixed whatever did not work on read-through, I post the installment.

If this thread survives, I will talk later about dealing with writer's block.

Edited to fix typo and to add:

One of the hardest things for some writers to do is to decide when is "it" finished. The read-through also helps with that question. Bottom line- you have to let it go sometime. If you polish the story long enough, you will be left with nothing- particularly not the enjoyment.

This post has been edited by treydog: Mar 17 2006, 04:41 PM


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treydog   Your Writing Process, And/Or Problems with Same   Mar 17 2006, 03:51 PM
PhonAntiPhon   I tend to write down stories first in long hand on...   May 20 2013, 06:56 PM
Jacki Dice   *slinks back in* I have a problem. This has been ...   May 22 2013, 03:10 AM
ThatSkyrimGuy   I have a problem. This has been holding me up for...   May 22 2013, 03:35 AM
SubRosa   I have found that Arma is an excellent source of i...   May 22 2013, 04:14 AM
McBadgere   Oddly enough, I was going to suggest asking Subros...   May 22 2013, 04:26 AM
Colonel Mustard   First off, a general guide I put together on writi...   May 22 2013, 10:27 AM
Grits   Jackie, you’ve reminded me of Elmore Leonard’s rul...   May 22 2013, 12:09 PM
treydog   Yes- to everything everyone else has said. And no...   May 22 2013, 12:53 PM
SubRosa   Also- "less is more". It is OK to keep...   May 22 2013, 05:39 PM
Elisabeth Hollow   I hate long sword fighting scenes. Also, dont be...   May 22 2013, 06:12 PM
PhonAntiPhon   Also, dont be afraid to allow your character to g...   May 22 2013, 06:41 PM
Colonel Mustard   Writing about a flawless character who is superhu...   May 22 2013, 09:28 PM
minque   Fighting/action scenes! Well I had the same pr...   May 22 2013, 08:40 PM
Darkness Eternal   Also, a tip when writing fight scenes is to bring ...   May 22 2013, 09:54 PM
McBadgere   Or, as an alternative...You could simply invent ne...   May 22 2013, 10:08 PM
Colonel Mustard   Or, as an alternative...You could simply invent n...   May 22 2013, 10:18 PM
McBadgere   Maybe so, but you're doing them your way and n...   May 22 2013, 10:24 PM
Colonel Mustard   Maybe so, but you're doing them your way and ...   May 22 2013, 10:33 PM
McBadgere   It may be honest to your self, but it's disho...   May 23 2013, 04:55 AM
King Coin   Just throwing in my 2 cents as a reader. I person...   May 23 2013, 01:19 AM
treydog   Several things.... Rules... um the question becom...   May 23 2013, 01:47 AM
ThatSkyrimGuy   To close where I began- with rules. Because I am...   May 23 2013, 02:56 AM
haute ecole rider   Jacki, everyone has given you good advice. It...   May 23 2013, 02:54 AM
Elisabeth Hollow   I write for fun. I really don't care for all o...   May 23 2013, 05:01 AM
PhonAntiPhon   I think that most people would agree that the bott...   May 23 2013, 07:31 AM
ThatSkyrimGuy   In the Mustard / McBadgere debate, I'm afraid ...   May 23 2013, 12:59 PM
PhonAntiPhon   In the Mustard / McBadgere debate, I'm afraid...   May 23 2013, 05:49 PM
ThatSkyrimGuy   Time to pick brains again. I am sure this is a res...   May 27 2013, 01:50 PM
Grits   I think the capital letters are sufficient for pla...   May 27 2013, 02:05 PM
treydog   As Grits says. A simple capitalization is suffici...   May 27 2013, 02:09 PM
Elisabeth Hollow   I just capitalize.   May 27 2013, 02:18 PM
ghastley   Re the capitalisation of the word "The",...   May 27 2013, 02:29 PM
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ThatSkyrimGuy   Two things where I'd like to hear how other p...   Jun 22 2013, 01:37 AM
SubRosa   On the subject of money, I had to throw out the pr...   Jun 22 2013, 12:12 AM
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Grits   Money: I like the game’s gold Septim along with th...   Jun 22 2013, 05:03 AM
treydog   Kazaera- except for one venture into valuation of ...   Jun 22 2013, 12:34 PM
Kazaera   Thanks everyone for the feedback! As treydog v...   Jun 22 2013, 07:57 PM
treydog   Some snippage On the other, there are scenes lik...   Jun 22 2013, 08:30 PM
minque   There is but ONE important thing here: ALWAYS LIST...   Jun 22 2013, 08:07 PM
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mALX   What do folks here use to determine the size of t...   Sep 10 2013, 06:13 PM
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mALX   I think if you're going to post fic routinely...   Sep 10 2013, 06:18 PM
Elisabeth Hollow   I copy and paste into a word count site.   Sep 10 2013, 06:16 PM
mALX   Example: Your last post (story only, not the com...   Sep 10 2013, 06:29 PM
ghastley   Well, that's why I'm asking. The technolog...   Sep 10 2013, 06:47 PM
King Coin   I'll probably break down and write a Perl scr...   Sep 10 2013, 06:55 PM
mALX   I'll probably break down and write a Perl sc...   Sep 10 2013, 07:58 PM
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jack cloudy   Ugh, I hate how windows programs that should be st...   Sep 10 2013, 08:03 PM
Elisabeth Hollow   Ugh, I hate how windows programs that should be s...   Sep 11 2013, 02:01 AM
ghastley   http://www.wordcountertool.com/ Gave it a whirl....   Sep 11 2013, 02:54 AM
treydog   Another possibility is Open Office- which is freew...   Sep 11 2013, 01:31 AM
Elisabeth Hollow   I hope I helped :]   Sep 11 2013, 03:02 AM
PhonAntiPhon   Just out of interest I counted up the words in the...   Sep 11 2013, 01:01 PM
Grits   Concerning length I tend to write in the way I pre...   Sep 11 2013, 02:17 PM
SubRosa   When reading I like to take in the whole scene at...   Sep 11 2013, 07:35 PM
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Grits   So would you say that you personally at least wou...   Sep 11 2013, 11:14 PM
ghastley   My problem arises from the way I'm doing this....   Sep 11 2013, 08:13 PM
Grits   My problem arises from the way I'm doing this...   Sep 12 2013, 02:01 AM
SubRosa   What I do when I break up a chapter into individua...   Sep 11 2013, 08:29 PM
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Colonel Mustard   As a general rule of thumb, writing both for the f...   Sep 11 2013, 11:59 PM
SubRosa   Also, this is completely different from the curre...   Sep 12 2013, 12:04 AM
Elisabeth Hollow   Wow, I'm super simplistic. I have everything i...   Sep 12 2013, 02:05 AM
Colonel Mustard   Wow, I'm super simplistic. I have everything ...   Sep 12 2013, 02:15 AM
Elisabeth Hollow   Same here. I mean I'll edit when I re-read the...   Sep 12 2013, 02:18 AM
Grits   That's awesome. What do you do when you get an...   Sep 12 2013, 02:28 AM
Elisabeth Hollow   I keep it in my head and think about how I can mak...   Sep 12 2013, 02:32 AM
SubRosa   What I do is make a separate word doc for each cha...   Sep 12 2013, 02:37 AM
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Elisabeth Hollow   It DOES seem to work differently for everyone. Whi...   Sep 12 2013, 02:48 AM
Kazaera   On installment length, I've been going upwards...   Sep 12 2013, 10:18 AM
Darkness Eternal   I would like to ask about the theme of a story. Ho...   Sep 13 2013, 03:21 AM
mALX   I would like to ask about the theme of a story. H...   Sep 13 2013, 03:43 AM
Grits   First like mALX said, if you are in doubt PM your ...   Sep 13 2013, 01:38 PM
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