Waiting4Oblivion Parliament: The Second Runner Options

[jonajosa]

[quote]The question is, would you rather them not have that power?[/quote]

To a degree yes.

[Channler]

To bad we live in a world of absolutes

[Dantrag]

Free speech is already limited - no slander, libel, etc.

That's all the limit it needs. I like being able to say/write whatever I want.

[Channler]

[quote=Dantrag]Free speech is already limited - no slander, libel, etc.

That's all the limit it needs. I like being able to say/write whatever I want.[/quote]

Which is a great reason why we live in a democracy such as ours, aye?

[Dantrag]

A republic actually.


but yes, yes it is. It gives me the right to disagree with things as well as agree with things.

While I don't agree with everything that politicians do...I still like having the freedom to choose them, as well as voice my disagreement with them.

[Channler]

Democracy, republic.. bah.. its like spam and ham.. ones not what it says it is

(And I mean the wonder meat)

[gamer10]

Actually it's a Federal Republic, whatever the heck that means.

I prefer Bush as well, why? Mainly because I don't like the sound of Kerry's voice. :lmao:

[Kuukulgur]

And you like the sound of Bush's voice? Now that's just plain weird

[Fuzzy Knight]

Hehe... Maybe he likes the Texas style

[gamer10]

No, I like the sound of Elmo's voice.

"Hewo evewyone, I' your new pwesident."

Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

No, I think we should elect some random guy president. . . . wait we've always done that.

Well, as long as our president can take over a few other countries and make them into states I'm all fine with that.

[Chumbaniya]

About your idea for votes based on country size Gamer10 - I think it makes perfect sense in terms of democracy. To use an analogy, it wouldn't be fair if all of the states in the USA were worth the same number of points in an election, since they have different numbers of people. With the current system, 2 small countries, which may have between them only half of the number of people as one of the larger countries, have twice as much power as one large country, which clearly isn't fair in democratic terms. Personally though, I wouldn't like to see big countries like the USA, China and India having larger amounts of power, and the new system would lessen the influence of Great Britain. I'm not exactly a great advocate of democracy either, but at least it prevents conflict over what the majority want.

About free speech - speech isn't as free as it could be, but I think it's fine as it is. I like being able to say what I want about any issue. I do find that Political Correctness is becoming quite a barrier to free speech - I'm totally against racism, but having to tiptoe round describing a person's skin colour or country of origin is ridiculous - I mean, what next? Will be be prevented from mentioning a person's sex?

[jonajosa]

[quote=Chumbaniya] To use an analogy, it wouldn't be fair if all of the states in the USA were worth the same number of points in an election, since they have different numbers of people.

but having to tiptoe round describing a person's skin colour or country of origin is ridiculous - I mean, what next? Will be be prevented from mentioning a person's sex?[/quote]

Thats how it works here. Electorial votes are the ones that really count. Small states have less electorials where texas or NY have alot.

Thats what im trying to say. You can't even say the word bible in some schools with out getting in trouble.

[Chumbaniya]

[quote=jonajosa]Thats what im trying to say. You can't even say the word bible in some schools with out getting in trouble.[/quote]

I think the US is probably a bit more touchy about religion than the UK, but there are new laws here preventing comments that are against religion, which probably means I'm going to be breaking the law from now on.

[gamer10]

Well, where I went to school no one was strict with the religion rules. Maybe because it was such a small school. . .

[gamer10]

What do you think about the next G8 meeting?

[Wolfie]

G8?

[Chumbaniya]

[quote=LoneWolf]G8?[/quote]

Get with the times man!

It's a meeting with the leaders of the world's 8 largest economies. It's happening soon near Edinburgh.

[Wolfie]

oh. And i will never get with the times when it comes to stuff like that. NEVER!!!!!

[Dantrag]

Why not? There's nothing wrong with knowing what is going on in the world.

[Chumbaniya]

Even for the politically unaware, the G8 is a pretty big event. I don't suppose much will actually get done though, apart from some empty promises of aid to africa in the long term, and Bush refusing (again) to do anything about pollution. Aparently, he's said that reducing carbon dioxide emissions is not the way forward, instead favouring new energy generation techniques - why the hell not reduce carbon dioxide emissions too? It's not like it will harm anything!

Anyway, in other news () London has pwned Paris in the 2012 olympic bid. I'm not too fussed by getting the olympics in britain, but at least we beat the french (just like in so many wars... j/k ).