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TK's Mod Questions Thread, Got mod problems, or are you just lost with a tool? |
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| Thomas Kaira |
Feb 8 2011, 06:45 AM
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Mouth

Joined: 10-December 10
From: Flyin', Flyin' in the sky!

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First off, some useful links and utilities: The Bethesda Oblivion Mods forum, this is where you'll want to go for all the latest news and updates on the mountains of unofficial content we all take for granted. If I don't have the answer you're looking for, chances are one of the many people here do. Oblivion Mod Manager, I don't think I need to explain this one. Better Oblivion Sorting Software, this is a well maintained utility that reads the mods you have installed and suggests the best order to load them in to avoid the inevitable conflicts. This is another must-have. Wrye Bash, the Swiss army knife of Oblivion modding, and I swear by it. It's intimidating at first, but surprisingly easy to use once you figure out how it works. Finally, Once you figure out BAIN, you will never need to worry about installation problems again. Wrye Bash Pictorial Guide for Newbies, if you are just starting Bash, it can be very easy to get lost in how much it does. This will help you get on the right foot. TES4Edit, a very important tool. Most of its features don't concern the end user, but its ability to clean up dirty and unneeded edits in a plugin is invaluable. TES4Edit Cleaning Guide at the TESCS Wiki. It contains a comprehensive list of mods that need to be cleaned, mods that are already clean, and mods that should not be cleaned, as well as a comprehensive guide on how to actually do it. So, it seems I have become "Mr. Modder" around these here parts, so I've decided to open this little thread if you have any questions for me. Questions about making modding easier for yourself, how to use a specific tool, if you've encountered a rather irksome problem and can't figure out what to do about it, or if you want to make your game perform a bit better. I will be the first to admit I'm not a professional modder, as I don't make my own mods. I do have the experience needed to maintain a heavy load order with minimal issues, as well as understanding a few advanced tricks to squeeze every last drop of performance out of the game, so I do know what I'm talking about. If anyone has any doubts, this is my load order: So with that, ask away. This post has been edited by Thomas Kaira: Feb 8 2011, 06:46 AM
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| Renee |
Nov 25 2016, 03:55 PM
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Councilor

Joined: 19-March 13
From: Ellicott City, Maryland

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QUOTE(PhonAntiPhon @ Nov 25 2016, 05:27 AM)  WB just seemed to me to be overly complicated to set up and administer. I'm sure it's great and all and maybe I'll give it another go this time around but if I do it's not an experience I can see me looking forward too! The thing is I would really benefit from using it as I do run a very mod-heavy game and it is, even with OMOD discipline, easy to lose track of stuff.
Yeah Phon, I remember you actually tear down your entire game after a character's story ends, right? You get rid of all your mods, and also all your saves and screenies, right? I think it was you. I have WB installed on my computer, and it is useful for a few things, but I mostly use it for the A-bomb glitch. I tried making a bashed patch once and my game would instant CTD every time. No idea why. And I just figured "OBMM + BOSS works for me". I just stick with that. I haven't added any new mods to Oblivion in a long time, anyway. This post has been edited by Renee: Nov 25 2016, 03:58 PM
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| PhonAntiPhon |
Nov 25 2016, 04:39 PM
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Mouth

Joined: 27-August 12
From: Whiterun, central Skyrim.

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QUOTE(Renee @ Nov 25 2016, 02:55 PM)  Yeah Phon, I remember you actually tear down your entire game after a character's story ends, right? You get rid of all your mods, and also all your saves and screenies, right? I think it was you.
I have WB installed on my computer, and it is useful for a few things, but I mostly use it for the A-bomb glitch. I tried making a bashed patch once and my game would instant CTD every time. No idea why. And I just figured "OBMM + BOSS works for me". I just stick with that. I haven't added any new mods to Oblivion in a long time, anyway.
yeah that's me, everything tends to go at the end. It's kind of a ritual, but later can be slightly annoying...! You've just reminded me of that glitch, I need to drop a fix in...
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| Renee |
Nov 25 2016, 06:59 PM
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Councilor

Joined: 19-March 13
From: Ellicott City, Maryland

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QUOTE(PhonAntiPhon @ Nov 25 2016, 10:39 AM)  yeah that's me, everything tends to go at the end. It's kind of a ritual, but later can be slightly annoying...! Annoying? I'd say it's gotta be intense. Cripes, I could tear down a game no prob, but getting rid of screenshots & saves?  That's intense, d00d.
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| Decrepit |
Dec 4 2016, 10:03 PM
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Master

Joined: 9-September 15
From: Mid-South USA

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QUOTE(PhonAntiPhon @ Dec 2 2016, 06:25 AM)  QUOTE(SubRosa @ Nov 25 2016, 06:26 PM)  The WB instructions did not help either. It said I have to install Python for it to work. So I went all the way to South America and wrangled a giant snake, but then Customs wouldn't let me bring it back into the country!  QUOTE(Renee @ Nov 26 2016, 01:22 PM)  I wonder if getting Lopov's Rattler character would substitute for Python?  Given how heavily modded my game is, I really should at least try to install it and get it set up... Maybe once I've finished the mod I'm working on, then I'll do it...! I swear by WB. That and BOSS (LOOT is better for Skyrim) along with TES4edit and TES4LODgen, used properly, will keep your installation purring (to the extent Oblivion ever purrs). Yeah, it has a steeper initial learning curve than its two competitors. (I used OBMM exclusively for almost the totality of my first play-through.) Worth the effort, in my opinion. The big hurtle is learning how to install your mods as BAIN packages. (Only a very few mods can't be converted, some come as specific BAIN packages, a great many install as if they were BAIN packages without modification.) Gotta admit some WB terminology threw me off at first. The biggest offended? What instructions constantly refer to as placing a Package higher or lower in the BAIN INSTALLERS tab I see as the opposite. Their lower is my higher and vice versa. But you might not have this issue. If your mods and load order are already established start simple. Get used to the Bashed-Patch. Then convert a mod that does not require loading ESMs/ESPs to BAIN (assuming it needs to be converted, many don't) and install it via the INSTALLERS TAB. A small scale texture replacer would be an excellent choice. If you mess those up it won't totally hose your game. Do those until you get a feel of what BAIN packages look like. It also helps to download and unpack a few COMPLEX BAIN PACKAGE mods. Looking at those in my file browser helped a lot. At any rate I encourage you to get it a shot, and don't be discouraged if it throws you off at first. It'll come. Heck, I learned it. (The basics at any rate. I'm certainly no guru.)
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| Renee |
Jan 12 2017, 08:38 PM
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Councilor

Joined: 19-March 13
From: Ellicott City, Maryland

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QUOTE(SubRosa @ Jan 11 2017, 09:13 PM)  There is Maigret's Raven Companion. The same person also made a bunch of other companion mods as well. Wow! wow! Woiw! Wow! Thanks! Perfect! :hugs:
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| Renee |
Mar 7 2017, 12:18 AM
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Councilor

Joined: 19-March 13
From: Ellicott City, Maryland

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Does anybody know why invisibility spells in Skyrim trigger people's hearing? And is there a way to turn this off.
Let me explain. My ice witch has 91 in Sneak, and can cast Muffle without anybody knowing. But if she casts Invisibility, enemies always notice, and immediately begin searching around, and they generally won't stop searching for a good, long while. By the time they do stop, it's usually almost time to cast another Invisibility spell. What's the point of being invisible then?
I wonder if there's a way to make casting Invisibility not so noticeable? I searched at Nexus, but the only mods I've seen so far overkill the game... they make the pc permanently invisible for instance, even if we activate something.
This post has been edited by Renee: Mar 7 2017, 12:21 AM
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| SubRosa |
Mar 7 2017, 12:27 AM
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Ancient

Joined: 14-March 10
From: Between The Worlds

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QUOTE(Renee @ Mar 6 2017, 06:18 PM)  Does anybody know why invisibility spells in Skyrim trigger people's hearing? And is there a way to turn this off.
Let me explain. My ice witch has 91 in Sneak, and can cast Muffle without anybody knowing. But if she casts Invisibility, enemies always notice, and immediately begin searching around, and they generally won't stop searching for a good, long while. By the time they do stop, it's usually almost time to cast another Invisibility spell. What's the point of being invisible then?
I wonder if there's a way to make casting Invisibility not so noticeable? I searched at Nexus, but the only mods I've seen so far overkill the game... they make the pc permanently invisible for instance, even if we activate something.
It is because of a setting in the Magic Effect. Open the Ck and go to InvisibillityFFSelf. You will see a Casting Sound Level drop down box on the right of the window. It is normally set to Loud. That is what attracts attention when you cast it. Change it to Silent and NPCs should not notice it.
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