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SubRosa
post Jul 2 2014, 04:46 PM
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With the Enhanced Editions to Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 now out, and Gog.com having sales on both the originals and the Icewind Dale games, it seems like a good time to create a thread about our old friend the Infinity Engine.

I have Icewind Dale 1 from a long time ago, but never got too far with it back then. Other games like Diablo II and Star Trek Elite Forces caught my attention, and the old school D&D ruleset of Icewind felt too cumbersome for me. I tried installing ID1 again a few weeks ago, but could not get it to work on my Windows 7 box. So I finally broke down and bought it and ID2 off of Gog.com a few days ago. While I was at it, I discovered that Steam had a sale on the Baludur's Gate Enhanced Editions, so I bought those two. I wound up getting all four games for under $20.

I decided to start at the start, so so I rolled a toon to pwn Baldur's Gate 1. Terra started out as a regular Ranger, and I experimented with her using dual swords and a longbow. I found I liked the bow better, and thought about restarting her game to specialize as the Archer subclass. But I found EE Keeper, and instead I used it to change her class and move around her proficiency points a bit.

So far BG1 has been a blast. I still think the old school D&D rules are cumbersome and clunky. Especially where magic is concerned. I hate that memorizing spells business and having to rest to be able to cast them again. I much prefer mana point systems for mages. But gripes aside, it is still a good game, even after all these years. It feels a lot like the original Fallout rpg in its look and feel - the same isometric view and sprites. BG1 just has more party members and the D&D rules.

I have been using BruceVayne's soundsets in Oblivion for years, and many of them are BG characters. So now it is a kick to finally hear them in their original settings. I especially love Imoen and Viconia's voices. From "Good on you if you saved the day!" to "Nightsinger, give me power!". So far those are my two favorite NPCs as well. I loved Minsc in the tutorial, but have not found him yet - he's clear across the map from where we start!

My current gang is Terra (the PC), Imoen, Viconia, Neera (she's a new EE added NPC), and Kagain. I am a little light on the muscle, and am looking for another good melee fighter. I'd like to hire the new half-orc NPC Dorn, but I have not gotten the encounter where it happens yet. OTOH, the team is strong in ranged attacks, and when we all focus our fire on one target we can usually kill it on one round. Unless it is a boss. So fights against ordinary critters often consist of mowing them down before they can even reach Kagain.

So far I am not thrilled with Neera, but for now she is the only mage in town. I'd like to hire the new Drow mage the EE edition added, but he doesn't appear until 5th level. It is funny, my party seems to be going to the evil end of the spectrum. Maybe I should use EE Keeper to change Terra from Neutral Good to Neutral Evil! laugh.gif

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SubRosa   Baldur's Dale   Jul 2 2014, 04:46 PM
SubRosa   I don't think a body actually appears that you...   Aug 12 2014, 11:24 PM
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SubRosa   Evil everywhere... careful not to step in any.   Aug 21 2014, 01:54 AM
Lopov   When it comes to quotes, Minsc and Edwin are my fa...   Aug 21 2014, 07:48 AM
SubRosa   A few nights ago I started up a BG2 EE game, impor...   Oct 18 2014, 06:50 PM
Lopov   So you started BG2, eh? I was curious when will yo...   Oct 18 2014, 07:54 PM
Acadian   Good on you, SubRosa! Yes, loosing Imoen is a...   Oct 18 2014, 08:14 PM
SubRosa   Today the party explored the Umar Hills, and added...   Oct 19 2014, 09:17 PM
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SubRosa   So far the Sorcerer/Kensai combo has worked well. ...   Oct 26 2014, 12:23 AM
Acadian   Can't go wrong with Mazzy, Amoen and Nalia. I...   Oct 26 2014, 01:50 AM
SubRosa   I never thought about changing Aerie's class. ...   Oct 26 2014, 02:34 AM
Acadian   Ahhh. ^_^ Brings back many wonderful hours of ...   Oct 26 2014, 03:46 AM
Lopov   It brings wonderful memories back indeed. As much...   Oct 26 2014, 08:34 AM
Colonel Mustard   As someone who seems to generally like CRPGs, but ...   Oct 26 2014, 12:37 PM
SubRosa   I never played Planescape, so I am not sure. I kno...   Oct 26 2014, 04:44 PM
Acadian   Sorry, Mustard. I've not played Planescape ei...   Oct 26 2014, 04:52 PM
Lopov   I played Planescape for just a few hours but didn...   Oct 26 2014, 06:35 PM
Colonel Mustard   Bah, you're all useless to me! Useless...   Oct 27 2014, 08:56 AM
SubRosa   I would go for Neverwinter Nights 1 over NWN2. I t...   Oct 27 2014, 12:55 PM
Acadian   Yay! Keldorn! Nalia's estate is a b...   Oct 27 2014, 02:03 PM
SubRosa   I was thinking that too about Nalia's Castle. ...   Oct 27 2014, 05:13 PM
SubRosa   I have been playing BG2 for a while now and have f...   Oct 29 2014, 03:03 AM
Acadian   It does take a fair amount of bean counting and kn...   Oct 29 2014, 02:34 PM
SubRosa   Thank you for that link! I can see a whole bun...   Oct 29 2014, 06:00 PM
SubRosa   I found a +3 Halberd called Dragon's Bane I th...   Oct 30 2014, 05:23 PM
Acadian   That sounds great! Yes, I made Minsc a regula...   Oct 30 2014, 05:32 PM
SubRosa   I found a great portrait of Imoen on Deviant Art j...   Aug 30 2015, 05:24 PM
Acadian   Oh, that does capture the thief turned mage that i...   Aug 30 2015, 06:08 PM
SubRosa   I found another great Imoen pic. Again, perfect fo...   Jul 28 2017, 08:15 PM
Acadian   Wow, that is nicer than your previous one. Good f...   Jul 28 2017, 08:23 PM
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Acadian   I sympathize, SubRosa. Trying to preserve the ess...   Jul 24 2020, 12:10 AM
SubRosa   I just discovered that Icewind Dale 2 is going to ...   Jul 25 2020, 09:45 PM
SubRosa   I started playing the Icewind Dale Enhanced Editio...   Jul 27 2020, 06:52 AM
Acadian   I hope January and the gang enjoy Icewind Dale. I...   Jul 27 2020, 11:43 AM
SubRosa   I just found out that Sorcerer's cannot dual c...   Jul 28 2020, 08:04 AM
Acadian   I think I recall that Sorcs in BGII could not dual...   Jul 28 2020, 11:33 AM
SubRosa   Ok, I took another crack at Icewind Dale. I found ...   Jul 28 2020, 10:19 PM
Acadian   Glad you're finding some workarounds. When a ...   Jul 28 2020, 10:44 PM
SubRosa   I played IWD for a while today, and had a lot more...   Jul 29 2020, 02:36 AM
SubRosa   Still pushing on with IWD. As I have read, it is b...   Jul 30 2020, 04:20 AM
SubRosa   Still working through Icewind Dale. I am about a t...   Aug 3 2020, 06:00 AM
Lopov   That was my approach in the game as well. It got...   Aug 3 2020, 09:18 AM
Acadian   Those tactics sound wise. I recall from BG2 that i...   Aug 3 2020, 07:54 PM
SubRosa   Yesterday I beat Icewind Dale like a red-haired gn...   Aug 14 2020, 06:22 AM
Acadian   So many games, so little time! :P   Aug 14 2020, 12:03 PM
Lopov   I dimly remember Heart of Winter. Actually the onl...   Aug 14 2020, 07:37 PM
TheCheshireKhajiit   So apparently in 3 days there is supposed to be so...   Aug 15 2020, 05:06 PM
SubRosa   So they are previewing for the preview to happen i...   Aug 15 2020, 08:50 PM
TheCheshireKhajiit   So they are previewing for the preview to happen ...   Aug 16 2020, 05:47 PM
SubRosa   I beat Icewind Dale - Heart of Winter like a red-h...   Aug 25 2020, 07:29 AM
SubRosa   I created Blood Raven in Baldur's Gate 1. I ma...   Apr 10 2022, 06:32 PM
Lopov   Are you planning to run a party or mostly solo / j...   Apr 10 2022, 06:38 PM
Acadian   Neat. Fighter/Mage suits Blood Raven.   Apr 10 2022, 08:01 PM
SubRosa   Lopov: I only just started the game. I did not rea...   Apr 10 2022, 08:57 PM
Lopov   I've almost always edited stats in GateKeeper ...   Apr 10 2022, 09:53 PM
SubRosa   I have been all the way through BG1 only once I th...   Apr 11 2022, 02:08 AM
Lopov   Black Pits is something that I've never done. ...   Apr 11 2022, 09:19 AM
Renee   I have Baldur's Gate on my gaming computer, bu...   Apr 11 2022, 01:18 PM
Acadian   Many years ago I played once through BG I, Tales o...   Apr 11 2022, 02:42 PM
SubRosa   I have a link to EE Keeper on the first page. It w...   Apr 11 2022, 08:06 PM
Acadian   Oh, thanks! As is so often the case, your thr...   Apr 11 2022, 08:15 PM
SubRosa   Blood Raven just recruited Minsc. It is fun to hea...   Apr 11 2022, 10:01 PM
Acadian   Minsc is a keeper all right! As you said, I i...   Apr 11 2022, 10:50 PM
macole   Minsc has some of the best lines ever envisioned i...   Apr 12 2022, 04:02 AM
Lopov   I like the story between Minsc, Edwin and Dynaheir...   Apr 12 2022, 09:19 AM
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Lopov   It's Drizzt, right? It can only be him. Now le...   Apr 21 2022, 10:23 PM
Acadian   Wow, it's been decades since I played BG1, but...   Apr 22 2022, 12:47 AM
SubRosa   Lopov: I don't have Siege of Dragonspear, thou...   Apr 22 2022, 01:52 AM
WellTemperedClavier   [b]Lopov: I don't have Siege of Dragonspear, ...   Apr 22 2022, 03:05 AM
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macole   Oh my, I can't begin to explain how much I mis...   Apr 25 2022, 03:54 AM
SubRosa   Blood Raven escaped from the Irenicus dungeon a li...   Apr 25 2022, 05:11 AM
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SubRosa   Baldur's Gate has a command console, like most...   Oct 18 2022, 09:21 PM
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