Bethesda.net, Bethesda's new forums REBOOT Options

[Callidus Thorn]

Took them long enough. Anyone with a functioning brain could see that that mess they tried to pass as a forum would never be any good. How it even got to the point where they made it active I have no idea.

[Grits]

Great news! I hope they get it right this time.

[mirocu]

I just want to keep Bethsoft

[Callidus Thorn]

Yeah, they really don't need a new forum, they should just fix the one they have.

[mirocu]

Someone said keep the forums separate from where they have mods, news etc instead of having all eggs in one basket. I think that´s not a bad idea.

[Callidus Thorn]

It'd make a lot more sense than displacing an entire community like they're trying to do. Doing anything other than fixing the Bethsoft forums(it'd be nice to have a working search function over there) is just nuts. They've already got everything in place for running and managing the forums, a substantial memberbase that makes for a helpful community(and a free tech-support asset!).

Personally, I'm inclined to think that the move was always about purging the old guard. It would fit the trend in their games, for one thing, and reduce the criticism of their games on their forums, and the resulting conflicts(remember the Skyrim section shortly after release? *shudders*). And it would certainly fit the style of forum they seemed to be going for.

But maybe I'm just too much of a cynic *shrugs*

[Kiln]

At least they're not axing their forums like Bioware, which I can only assume is a bad sign.

[mirocu]

Personally, I'm inclined to think that the move was always about purging the old guard. It would fit the trend in their games, for one thing, and reduce the criticism of their games on their forums, and the resulting conflicts(remember the Skyrim section shortly after release? *shudders*). And it would certainly fit the style of forum they seemed to be going for.

But maybe I'm just too much of a cynic *shrugs*

Often enough it´s the cynics who tell the hard truth

[Kiln]

It'd make a lot more sense than displacing an entire community like they're trying to do. Doing anything other than fixing the Bethsoft forums(it'd be nice to have a working search function over there) is just nuts. They've already got everything in place for running and managing the forums, a substantial memberbase that makes for a helpful community(and a free tech-support asset!).

Personally, I'm inclined to think that the move was always about purging the old guard. It would fit the trend in their games, for one thing, and reduce the criticism of their games on their forums, and the resulting conflicts(remember the Skyrim section shortly after release? *shudders*). And it would certainly fit the style of forum they seemed to be going for.

But maybe I'm just too much of a cynic *shrugs*

Didn't see this post. I hadn't really considered this but it sounds plausible.

They're always welcome here.

[mALX]

It'd make a lot more sense than displacing an entire community like they're trying to do. Doing anything other than fixing the Bethsoft forums(it'd be nice to have a working search function over there) is just nuts. They've already got everything in place for running and managing the forums, a substantial memberbase that makes for a helpful community(and a free tech-support asset!).

Personally, I'm inclined to think that the move was always about purging the old guard. It would fit the trend in their games, for one thing, and reduce the criticism of their games on their forums, and the resulting conflicts(remember the Skyrim section shortly after release? *shudders*). And it would certainly fit the style of forum they seemed to be going for.

But maybe I'm just too much of a cynic *shrugs*

This is something that crossed my mind as well. We long term fans have more or less forced them to a standard that they used to enforce on themselves but no longer do. Maybe they are trying to break free of us "Fan-atics" and gear toward mass audiences that rake in much larger profits originally and then disappear after one playthrough so they don't have to spend so much time fixing the errors or explaining their lack of decent content.

(But maybe I'm also a cynic, who knows? )





This post has been edited by mALX: Aug 4 2016, 07:12 PM

[ghastley]

A reboot on the current software would serve to clean out the inactive members, so that would be a reasonable idea. As long as there's an easy way to claim your member id, and retain it, all the old "registered to make one troll post" accounts could go away.

They'd need the same read-only archive of the old content, whichever way the future forums go.

[Callidus Thorn]

It'd make a lot more sense than displacing an entire community like they're trying to do. Doing anything other than fixing the Bethsoft forums(it'd be nice to have a working search function over there) is just nuts. They've already got everything in place for running and managing the forums, a substantial memberbase that makes for a helpful community(and a free tech-support asset!).

Personally, I'm inclined to think that the move was always about purging the old guard. It would fit the trend in their games, for one thing, and reduce the criticism of their games on their forums, and the resulting conflicts(remember the Skyrim section shortly after release? *shudders*). And it would certainly fit the style of forum they seemed to be going for.

But maybe I'm just too much of a cynic *shrugs*

This is something that crossed my mind as well. We long term fans have more or less forced them to a standard that they used to enforce on themselves but no longer do. Maybe they are trying to break free of us "Fan-atics" and gear toward mass audiences that rake in much larger profits originally and then disappear after one playthrough so they don't have to spend so much time fixing the errors or explaining their lack of decent content.

(But maybe I'm also a cynic, who knows? )

Well, since Oblivion and Skyrim were both judged against their predecessors and found lacking in many areas, it's pretty hard to deny that they're dumbing down their games. Systems and mechanics that used to require a modicum of forethought and planning(birthsigns, chance of failure, or classes, for instance), or that could cause problems if mistakes are made(attributes?) have been modified, stripped down, or flat-out removed. There's a definite trend in their games, and it's heading away from their previous target audience. It makes a certain amount of sense that they wouldn't want us on their new site if they're no longer making games for us.

[Kiln]

It'd make a lot more sense than displacing an entire community like they're trying to do. Doing anything other than fixing the Bethsoft forums(it'd be nice to have a working search function over there) is just nuts. They've already got everything in place for running and managing the forums, a substantial memberbase that makes for a helpful community(and a free tech-support asset!).

Personally, I'm inclined to think that the move was always about purging the old guard. It would fit the trend in their games, for one thing, and reduce the criticism of their games on their forums, and the resulting conflicts(remember the Skyrim section shortly after release? *shudders*). And it would certainly fit the style of forum they seemed to be going for.

But maybe I'm just too much of a cynic *shrugs*

This is something that crossed my mind as well. We long term fans have more or less forced them to a standard that they used to enforce on themselves but no longer do. Maybe they are trying to break free of us "Fan-atics" and gear toward mass audiences that rake in much larger profits originally and then disappear after one playthrough so they don't have to spend so much time fixing the errors or explaining their lack of decent content.

(But maybe I'm also a cynic, who knows? )

Well, since Oblivion and Skyrim were both judged against their predecessors and found lacking in many areas, it's pretty hard to deny that they're dumbing down their games. Systems and mechanics that used to require a modicum of forethought and planning(birthsigns, chance of failure, or classes, for instance), or that could cause problems if mistakes are made(attributes?) have been modified, stripped down, or flat-out removed. There's a definite trend in their games, and it's heading away from their previous target audience. It makes a certain amount of sense that they wouldn't want us on their new site if they're no longer making games for us.

I wish I was disappointed but that forum has been so ridiculously heavily moderated for so long I haven't had a desire to go there for a loooong time.

[mALX]

Well, since Oblivion and Skyrim were both judged against their predecessors and found lacking in many areas, it's pretty hard to deny that they're dumbing down their games. Systems and mechanics that used to require a modicum of forethought and planning(birthsigns, chance of failure, or classes, for instance), or that could cause problems if mistakes are made(attributes?) have been modified, stripped down, or flat-out removed. There's a definite trend in their games, and it's heading away from their previous target audience. It makes a certain amount of sense that they wouldn't want us on their new site if they're no longer making games for us.

Agreed.

[Winter Wolf]

Hey, I have just realized that I am one of the 'Treybabies.' A proud 2010 Treybaby! All grown up at six years of age.

Well, maybe not grown up.

Our doggie certainly did have a number of offspring appear during those tumultuous days of '10. How dare it when they tried to shut us off from the Oblivion fan-fiction! The indignation! I mean, I read about arrows flying across Chorrol, the city, not this site, lol and hitting the annoying Earana (and I mean the full width of Chorrol), mischief at the Academy with people hands being placed in water while they slept, axes and daedra smashing through the doorway into Jensine's Merchandise and the discovery that Simplicia the slow was inflicted with helljoint!

How else would I have discovered these things?

How else would I have so much fun reading these things if it wasn't for the creativity of the fantastic writers and members that shared the same passion for Oblivion? Unfortunately Beth have indeed moved away from that core beginning and reached out for a different target of audience...

Glad to hear that Beth.net is looking to reboot. The site was absolutely shocking for reading and posting.

I only used it to hunt down mods that I could add to Fallout 4, otherwise the site was pointless.

I agree that one reason was to clean out all the unused members. I remember scrolling through them one day years ago, they certainly did have a large number of one hit wonders posters.

[mALX]

Hey, I have just realized that I am one of the 'Treybabies.' A proud 2010 Treybaby! All grown up at six years of age.

Well, maybe not grown up.

Our doggie certainly did have a number of offspring appear during those tumultuous days of '10. How dare it when they tried to shut us off from the Oblivion fan-fiction! The indignation! I mean, I read about arrows flying across Chorrol, the city, not this site, lol and hitting the annoying Earana (and I mean the full width of Chorrol), mischief at the Academy with people hands being placed in water while they slept, axes and daedra smashing through the doorway into Jensine's Merchandise and the discovery that Simplicia the slow was inflicted with helljoint!

How else would I have discovered these things?

How else would I have so much fun reading these things if it wasn't for the creativity of the fantastic writers and members that shared the same passion for Oblivion? Unfortunately Beth have indeed moved away from that core beginning and reached out for a different target of audience...

Glad to hear that Beth.net is looking to reboot. The site was absolutely shocking for reading and posting.

I only used it to hunt down mods that I could add to Fallout 4, otherwise the site was pointless.

I agree that one reason was to clean out all the unused members. I remember scrolling through them one day years ago, they certainly did have a large number of one hit wonders posters.

My original story lost 30 chapters when they changed the format in 2010. I don't know how they managed to only transfer two pages of a closed thread; but the stuff they lost was Eyja's attack on the Dark Brotherhood; Maxical meeting Foxy for the first time; and the death of Rona Hassildor; finding the Dwemer; meeting Kagronacl/Sage Vardengroet/Divayth Fyr/Clavicus Vile. All the OLD game places they visited are gone.

[ghastley]

The latest announcement says that the SSE forums are being opened up on the new NodeBB site, rather than the one using Jive (which will be shut down later), so perhaps it won't be as bad as we were expecting. It also looks like the Skyrim forums for the 32-bit game will remain. The General Discussion forum at Bethesda.net has some more detail, too.

No announcements about Oblivion or earlier, presumably remaining, like "old" Skyrim.

[mirocu]

Wouldn´t care even if I was paid to at this point. Thank the Aedra that Acadian and Renee (I think?) coaxed me to join up here

[Acadian]

I was active on the OB forums there while I played OB. Similarly the Sky forums while I played Sky. Now that I'm playing ESO, I haven't been on the BethSoft forums for months. I was primarily there for game tips on my active game and the ESO forums are run by Zenimax.

[Grits]

Thank you for the update, ghastley!

I plan to check out the new forums for SSE. I am so glad that they listened to the people who tried to make the old new forums work. That format was just awful. Hopefully the new new version will be better.