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Kotor, The Knights of the Old Repulic 1 & 2 topic |
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| SubRosa |
Nov 22 2015, 03:15 AM
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Ancient

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Since it stirred up a few posts worth of talk in the What Are You Playing topic, I thought I would make the Kotor games a thread of their own. I'll start with some handy tips for playing them on a modern computer. First off getting them to install on a 64 bit OS is probably not likely. But Gog.com has them for $10 each, and their installs will work on Windows 7 (I haven't tried them on my Win 8 tablet, and I don't have Win 10, but I am sure they work on those OSes as well). There are probably some modder-built installers floating around the internets if you still have the old cds as well. In any case, neither game can do 1920 x 1080 resolution out of the box. But you can get it on each. The only way I know for Kotor 1 is to use Flawless Widescreen. You have to start it first, select the Kotor profile, and leave it running. Then start Kotor 1 itself and go to the graphics options to set the resolution there to anything different from what you find it. 1920 x 1080 won't be there the first time you try. But change the resolution to something anyway. Flawless Widescreen is a memory hack, that detects the change in resolutions and then tries to add in the higher resolutions. Exit the game, restart it, and 1920 x 1080 might be there the second time. If not, go for a third time, etc... Sometimes it comes up the second time. Sometimes even after six or seven times it does not. If I go that long I turn off Flawless Widescreen and open it again. Usually then the next time you start Kotor you have the higher resolutions. Sadly, you have to do this every time you play the game.Okay, I found an update to running Kotor 1 at high resolution. Make a backup copy of your Swkotor.exe file. Download the KotOR High Resolution Menus 1.4. Then copy the 3 hires_patcher files to your main Kotor folder. Run the bat file. It will ask you four questions, such as the width, height, etc... that you want. Then go back to the file you downloaded, and navigate to the folder of the screen size you want. They will first be in ratios like 16-9, and so on. Drill down until you find the one you want. Then copy the files over to your Kotor\Override folder. Done! The menus in the game will look really big. But the hud will be visible in gameplay. Now a year later, I am having problems with even this method. It just is not working anymore, and I do not know why. But what I did find that works is to download the latest version of Flawless Widescreen here. I used the x86 version. Run that and select the Kotor 1 profile. Then start Kotor 1, go to the graphics options, and 1920 x 1080 will be there for you to change to. You only have to change the graphics options once. But you do have to start Flawless Widescreen every time, before you start Kotor. It is a bit more convenient than the old way of using Flawless Widescreen however. Kotor 2 has a slightly more complicated fix, but at least you only have to do it once, and then you will always have the high resolution. Start the game and set it to the highest resolution available, then exit it. Run the Universal Widescreen Patcher. Select the Kotor2 profile, tell it where the game is on the computer, and put in the resolution you want (1920 x 1080). Go to your Kotor 2 folder and open swkotor2.ini file. Set the following: Under [Display Options] Width=1920 Height=1080 Under [Graphics Options] Width=1920 Height=1080 Copy the Widescreen UI Fix to the Kotor2\Override folder. Done! Steam has the revamped version of Kotor 2 done by Aspyr. It has the advantage of high resolutions built in without need of all the work above. But other than that it does not really add anything I personally care about. It is all Steam achievements, Steam cloud saves, controller support, and so on. The native 5k support would be handy for folks like ghastley that use multiple monitors though. But I think that can be done as with a hack (not positive though). I am glad I did not buy it this way, as I got everything I wanted from the Gog version, without the added joy of DRM. On to mods. Kotor 1 & 2Kotor Tool - A modding tool that allows you to extract and mod the game's files. Kotor Savegame Editor - A savegame editor that allows you to modify all of your stats, and those of your companions. It works on both games. One really cool thing about it is that it allows you to edit your inventory, and modded items will show up in the editor. So you don't need to use the command console to add them within the game. Kotor 1Lightsaber Choices - When you construct your lightsaber on Dantoine, this mod gives you more options in the choice of your color crystal, what type of saber (standard, short, or double), and lets you create a second one too if you want to dual wield. 90SK's K1 Robes - changes the look of the jedi robes, based on the Bastila robes. A big improvement over the vanilla look. Deadly Stream has a huge amount of Kotor mods. Of course there is a Kotor 1 Nexus site, and Gamewatcher has a few Kotor 1 modsKotor 2First and foremost is the Sith Lords Restored Content Mod, which puts a ton of stuff back into that game that never got used in the release version. I am using it now for the first time, but since I have not gotten far, I cannot say just how much it really changes. It sounds like it adds an awful lot though. Again Deadly Stream has a bunch of Kotor 2 mods. The Nexus has a Kotor 2 site and Gamewatcher has a Kotor 2 mod site as well.This post has been edited by SubRosa: Dec 15 2020, 04:10 AM
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| mALX |
Dec 14 2015, 07:53 AM
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Ancient

Joined: 14-March 10
From: Cyrodiil, the Wastelands, and BFE TN

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QUOTE(SubRosa @ Dec 8 2015, 07:50 PM)  mALX: It took me a long time to come to think of those ships as Hammerheads. The entire first time I played it years ago I never even made that leap at all. I just thought they were Screwdriver Ships back then. It was just a few weeks ago I imagined one sideways, and realized would look just like a hammerhead shark. Mandalore is the one in the cool armor. He's the leader of the Mandalorians. It's from a mod, that changes the armor of the Mandalorians in the game to the same style as worn by Jango and Boba Fett in the Star Wars movies. I think that looks much better than the vanilla Mandalorian armor from the game. The Force Leap is really cool in the Kotor games. It almost instantly puts you across the map, and looks really cool for that split second it takes to get there. Your character actually does a flip in mid-air as they leap. There is no armor or weapon repair in these games. There are some options to upgrade your gear with improvements. The system is pretty basic in Kotor 1, and gets really fleshed out in Kotor 2 - with tons more new options. The Kotor games are fun. But they are not open worlds like a Bethesda game. There are only a certain number of places you can visit, and you have to visit them and advance the game's plot in them. The only real freedom is that you can choose the order in which you do some of them, and which side quests you want to do, and how you do them (there is a basic good/evil choice to most of the quests). Mandalorian Super-commandos board The RavagerAnother pic of MandaloreVisas and Brigantia in actionDouble whammyMore lightsaber action OMG, I missed this one! Urk, I am so sorry!!! Feel free to smack me remind me if I am late getting here when you have updated; the way things are going in RL, I don't even remember my own name lately. Bold = So either way it was some kind of tool ship? Gaaaah, you should know better than mentioning Boba Fett; backpacks; or jets around me! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZ5eLK_QKMcOh, this really tells me a lot about the game, thank you so much! Wow, this first shot is amazing! Did your gun cause those flames? Man, this is some great battle shots! I love this, and it was the same in Fallout 3 - when in a big battle like this; I like the battlefield to look like all hell is breaking loose - It looks like this game does even better than Fallout 3 at blowing up the scene !!! Awesome shots !!!! Is your character the pretty redhead in the gorgeous armor? She looks Awesome! I like how she is just standing watching the fight, lol. Oh no, wait - you are Brigantia, so who is the redhead? Man, that pinheaded guy with the red-marked head is freaky looking! Wow, the redhead jumped in to fight in that last shot, I see her sword! Is she on Brigantia's side? I hope so, her light saber is lighting up the whole area !!! These shots are fantastic!!!! I'm really sorry again for missing these - and Thank You, THANK YOU so much for the Banished game! I've been having a blast with it! My current build is in year 12/winter - not having trouble yet, but Ijust noticed a bunch of them are over 70 years old, the rest are over 55 except for 4 in their 30's and one 7 year old child. Urk. So I do see issues in the future unless I open a tavern or something to lube them up so they will start procreating. I did finally lose one member, but it was from old age; not disease/freezing/starving/etc. I've learned a few things too, so if I have to start over, I'll do better next time. Thank you again for it, I love it!
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| SubRosa |
Dec 14 2015, 04:36 PM
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Ancient

Joined: 14-March 10
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Oh noes! Fette's Vette! The flames were a scripted event that happens when the Mandalorians board the bad guy's ship. That whole scene is all scripted. FO3 actually did a better much job of portraying big battles. The explosions are much more immersive. The red head is Visas. That is actually a red hood that she never takes off. You never see her hair, or her eyes. She is too cool for that stuff! I am glad you having so much fun with Banished. So you have a bunch of old farts? Better get working on that fountain of youth!
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| mALX |
Dec 14 2015, 05:34 PM
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Ancient

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QUOTE(SubRosa @ Dec 14 2015, 10:36 AM)  Oh noes! Fette's Vette! The flames were a scripted event that happens when the Mandalorians board the bad guy's ship. That whole scene is all scripted. FO3 actually did a better much job of portraying big battles. The explosions are much more immersive. The red head is Visas. That is actually a red hood that she never takes off. You never see her hair, or her eyes. She is too cool for that stuff! I am glad you having so much fun with Banished. So you have a bunch of old farts? Better get working on that fountain of youth! I added one well, lol. Somehow I didn't "get" the idea of the market place, both of mine are out of the way. If I have to make a new town, I'll know better next time. And I've been throwing up houses like mad, hoping some of those oldsters will get some renewed energy - at least enough to make a child before they pass; darn it! I wonder if the Herbalist knows how to make viagra? Oh, by scripted - do you mean that fiery scene is one of the movie things you were talking about earlier? (Or is it scripted like the implosion of Raven Rock where it is actually taking place and your player controls are still intact (unless Fawkes force greets you right when you are trying to watch the explosion of the century and shoot helicopters out of the sky).
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| Destri Melarg |
Feb 24 2016, 12:55 AM
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Mouth

Joined: 16-March 10
From: Rihad, Hammerfell

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QUOTE(SubRosa @ Feb 23 2016, 07:30 AM)  Kotor 1 is getting a remake! A team of modders/indie developers is working on recreating the entire game using the Unreal 4 engine. You will still need to own the original game, as it uses the sound and music from it. Hopefully it won't get shut down by EA and Disney. Because the screens from it look really cool. I saw something about this the other day. I applaud the people over at Apeiron for doing what Disney and EA should have been doing once they got their paws on the franchise. Unfortunately I don't think this will ever be released. An extremely popular game with a rabid global audience gets an update and neither Disney nor EA sees a profit from it? Not going to happen... too bad for us.
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| mALX |
Feb 24 2016, 01:01 AM
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Ancient

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QUOTE(SubRosa @ Feb 23 2016, 10:30 AM)  Kotor 1 is getting a remake! A team of modders/indie developers is working on recreating the entire game using the Unreal 4 engine. You will still need to own the original game, as it uses the sound and music from it. Hopefully it won't get shut down by EA and Disney. Because the screens from it look really cool. The Unreal Engine is free to download; and they give out numerous tutorial vids free on how to program it; anyone up for making some cool games, I'll play them!
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| Kiln |
Oct 6 2016, 11:59 AM
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I wish they'd made KotOR 3 instead of an MMO. Disappointing really.
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He who fights with monsters should be careful lest he thereby become a monster. And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will also gaze into thee. - Friedrich Nietzsche
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| Callidus Thorn |
Oct 6 2016, 02:57 PM
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Councilor

Joined: 29-September 13
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QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Sep 30 2016, 08:10 PM)  KotOR and The Sith Lords are quite possibly the best Star Wars games ever made. Khajiit loves them both; KotOR for the story and The Sith Lords for the little additions it added to KotOR's formula.
KotOR had the better story, but I prefer the characters of TSL. Though I wouldn't call the additions small. Prestige classes and the greatly expanded weapon upgrade system are just fantastic. QUOTE(Kiln @ Oct 6 2016, 11:59 AM)  I wish they'd made KotOR 3 instead of an MMO. Disappointing really.
Such a wasted opportunity. 
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| TheCheshireKhajiit |
Oct 6 2016, 09:46 PM
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QUOTE(Kiln @ Oct 6 2016, 05:59 AM)  I wish they'd made KotOR 3 instead of an MMO. Disappointing really.
Totally
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| Uleni Athram |
Jan 4 2017, 01:58 PM
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Don't know if you guys are aware but there's apparently a remake of KotoR being made rn. I think in the Unreal Engine? Saw some videos and found it really cool; Skyrim-esque, totally, what with a FPS view and all that jazz.
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| TheCheshireKhajiit |
Jan 23 2017, 03:23 AM
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QUOTE(Uleni Athram @ Jan 4 2017, 06:58 AM)  Don't know if you guys are aware but there's apparently a remake of KotoR being made rn. I think in the Unreal Engine? Saw some videos and found it really cool; Skyrim-esque, totally, what with a FPS view and all that jazz.
Yeah, Khajiit thinks it's being done by a bunch of modders. This one wonders if this is legal.
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"Family is an odd thing, is it not? Defined by blood, separated by blood, joined by blood. In the end, it's all just blood." -Dhaunayne Aundae
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| TheCheshireKhajiit |
Jan 23 2017, 05:03 AM
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QUOTE(SubRosa @ Jan 22 2017, 09:44 PM)  I put a link to it about 8 or 9 posts up.
Embarrassed admission: Yeah, Khajiit actually clicked on it after seeing it up there today! It does look like Darth Sidious said "I will make it legal!", but this one did notice the article also said Disney could shut the project down.
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"Family is an odd thing, is it not? Defined by blood, separated by blood, joined by blood. In the end, it's all just blood." -Dhaunayne Aundae
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| Uleni Athram |
Jan 23 2017, 06:33 PM
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QUOTE(SubRosa @ Jan 23 2017, 12:44 PM)  I put a link to it about 8 or 9 posts up.
:0 *investigates* *sees it to be true* :0 ...  Well damn, I need to pay more attention then LOLOLOLOL
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