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[hazmick]

Cirinwe usually gets more players offering to group up with her than Haa-Rei does, though I'm not sure if that has anything to do with her sex. I have all chat (voice and text) turned off so nobody can talk to me anyway.

In my experience, lots of MMO players have both male and female characters.

[Acadian]

Buffy's not been harassed in any disturbing way. She does get complements and flirted with sometimes but nothing creepy or in poor taste. She's been stalked and followed a couple times but nothing that a few minutes of ignoring has not stopped. I have noticed other players sometimes stop what they're doing when they see her but can't tell if that is because she is cute, so small or simply one of a tiny number of players that walks quite a bit instead of always running.

She did have one fellow dancing around doing mock attacks on her with an axe. Then he asked her to duel. No. Then he asked her again. No. Then he asked her again. No. (I intentionally keep auto decline turned off.) He then asked her to group. No. He then asked to be her friend. No! Then he, finally, went away. I chuckled at the poor fellow's impressive way with women.

When we get a group request before anyone sees her fight, I figure that if it is from a fellow there is probably some flirting going on as Buffy's looks/stature/gear certainly do not inspire confidence in her fighting abilities.

When we get a group request for the bowgirl after someone sees her in action, I generally think that is some protectiveness involved to help the poor archer who has to dance around to kill stuff. While the help is welcome in tight quarters, she is in no danger in open areas - just takes awhile to kill.

When we get a group request for the magplar after someone sees her in action, I detect no flirting there. Rather, after seeing her aedric spears and heal/buff spells in action, they want her along as a healer. Even without a group requests, we often notice a player or two choosing to travel near her through a dungeon. As a healer, it is her nature to heal/buff nearby friendlies whether grouped or not.

[mALX]

Buffy's not been harassed in any disturbing way. She does get complements and flirted with sometimes but nothing creepy or in poor taste. She's been stalked and followed a couple times but nothing that a few minutes of ignoring has not stopped. I have noticed other players sometimes stop what they're doing when they see her but can't tell if that is because she is cute, so small or simply one of a tiny number of players that walks quite a bit instead of always running.

She did have one fellow dancing around doing mock attacks on her with an axe. Then he asked her to duel. No. Then he asked her again. No. Then he asked her again. No. (I intentionally keep auto decline turned off.) He then asked her to group. No. He then asked to be her friend. No! Then he, finally, went away. I chuckled at the poor fellow's impressive way with women.

When we get a group request before anyone sees her fight, I figure that if it is from a fellow there is probably some flirting going on as Buffy's looks/stature/gear certainly do not inspire confidence in her fighting abilities.

When we get a group request for the bowgirl after someone sees her in action, I generally think that is some protectiveness involved to help the poor archer who has to dance around to kill stuff. While the help is welcome in tight quarters, she is in no danger in open areas - just takes awhile to kill.

When we get a group request for the magplar after someone sees her in action, I detect no flirting there. Rather, after seeing her aedric spears and heal/buff spells in action, they want her along as a healer. Even without a group requests, we often notice a player or two choosing to travel near her through a dungeon. As a healer, it is her nature to heal/buff nearby friendlies whether grouped or not.

"Are you sure you don't want me to kill you? Aw shucks! Well then, can we play together? Huh? No? Well, uh...wanna be friends?"

BWAAHAA !!! Unsmooth Operator, lol.


Templar Buffy is up on the list of the better healers I've traveled with. I would choose her over one I've been playing with for over a year in a heartbeat. Acadian can't see how fights go when he isn't there with Buffy; but Bubba died in the Inner Sea Armiture - THE INNER SEA ARMITURE !!!!! Baby's first dungeon!!!! And NOT by the boss of the dungeon, but just a couple archers !!! And this was AFTER his tour with Buffy getting skyshards in Greenshade!

So Acadian can't realize how good Buffy really is at what she does, he only knows she enjoys it. But BOY is she good at it!

And as it turned out, Bubba was at over level 40 and wearing level 24 armor, so he was fighting with no protection when she was healing him too - she is an AWESOME healer !!!

[TheCheshireKhajiit]

This is encouraging. Khajiit doesn't remember having any trouble in WoW with his female Dranei character, but in Destiny one time this one was playing with his female human titan and some clown pmed him with some creepy and rather explicit language that he shall not repeat here. Yet another time with the same character Khajiit went to his mailbox to get something out of it. When he exited the interface there were four or five players kneeling down in a semi circle around him. Now, Khajiit is not really sure if they were simply using the mailboxes or being creepy, but there was plenty of room all around the mailboxes (they are arrange on a column in a wide open location), so why get right there close to this one's female character? Wasn't long after that this one stopped playing that game, lol

This post has been edited by TheCheshireKhajiit: Dec 7 2016, 06:43 PM

[Acadian]

Aww, thanks for the kind and encouraging words, mALX!

I suppose I should say that Buffy's spirit really has fully migrated into the magical healing templar. Our stamina bow sorc still exists but is now devoted to being our crafter. As such, her playing is geared primarily to accessing set crafting sites and gathering skyshards. She is near mastery with her four chosen crafts of wood, cloth, metal and enchanting. So I basically think now in terms of Buffy (the healing magplar) and our Crafter (the bowsorc).

Buffy is pretty comfortable using her healing and buffs to augment her own survival and offense but was very nervous 'overwatching' for Bubba - afraid she'd let him down. The prospect of healing/buffing others who rely on her is still intimidating - as much as she believes that is her calling. Successfully helping Bubba gave her a massive boost in confidence. She still feels unqualified to advertise herself as a healer for real groups but her confidence is growing.

She is tilted just slightly toward offense as a healer. Of her 10 ability slots, 5 are pure heal/buff, 4 are combination offense/buff/heal and one is offense/debuff. She is gradually developing the ability to switch out skills to support particular group needs if she knows what those are in advance. In addition to the general purpose healer/solo abilities mentioned, she should develop the ability to go almost all heal/buff (at the expense of offense) as well as two additional setups to support/buff groups that are either stamina or magicka heavy users. It all seems very intimidating still!

[haute ecole rider]

I hear you, Buffy! When I was playing veterinarian, I often felt insecure in my healing skills, even though they were hard-earned and well-used!

Now I have some questions while playing with my three characters.

First, is it possible to go through the Mages Guild storyline as part of a group? The reason I ask is because when Mazul went up against the shield wives earlier this week, our group Champion showed up after she had killed them, and she was able to assist him against the respawns. It makes me wonder if a group is going through a quest together, they can then take on all the tough parts together? In other words, there are very few truly solo quests (like the MQ, which is always indicated by a SOLO tag)

Second, Alise has not yet started the MQ. Is there any advantage to doing that? Sooner, or later? Or can that be put off indefinitely if a character is not interested in getting her soul back?

Third, if one is crafting in all crafts, but choosing perks only in one or two, she will not be able to do more than the basic level stuff (i.e. maple in woodworking, Level 1 recipes in provisioning, and so on) in those craft lines she is not focused on?

Fourth, does one have to be UnDaunted to go into the big dungeons like Fungal Grotto or Spindleclutch?

I'm sure I'll think of more but I'm going to sign off and work with Alise in clearing the last few delves from Stonefalls. She only has four more to go (and only two have Skyshards she hasn't yet collected). Thanks in advance!

[hazmick]

First - No, Mages Guild, Fighters Guild and Main Quests are all solo instanced. They're not difficult though, and definitely not as difficult as the Forge-Wives

Second - No pros or cons for doing/not doing the MQ. If you want to ignore it then that's fine.

Third - You can only craft at the level you have perks for. If you want to master all crafts you'll have to put the perks into it.

Fourth - No, you don't have to be Undaunted to enter the dungeons. Undaunted just gives you quests (and therefore rewards) for doing the dungeons. It's worth noting that all of those dungeons are end-game group content.

[haute ecole rider]

Thanks for the answers, hazmick!

Julian is finding the last book of the Mages Guild especially difficult! I think she needs to master a few spells first before she can complete this one. Fighter's Guild and MQ have not been especially hard so far.

What exactly do you mean by "end-game group content?" Best done with high level (i.e. Champion Level) groups? In that case Julian is not interested! Mazul, maybe . . . Alise has a long way to go, she just leveled up to 17.

Oh, and she took Buffy's advice and started working on her dual-wield by delving a couple of remaining dungeons as a stamsorc. So far she is doing well, and learning new skills while at it.

Oh, I keep forgetting to tell you, hazmick, how much I love your Silent Night!

[Acadian]

Hazmick is our best answer reptile at Chorrol for ESO!

Rider - regarding the MQ, the only consideration that may be important is that the MQ gives you skillpoints every time you turn around. Basically every quest I think. So if you need perks, the MQ can be helpful.

[hazmick]

Yeah, end-game is basically content that is designed to be difficult i.e at the end of the game when you have no more content to challenge you.

Regular Undaunted dungeons (like Fungal Grotto) just require you to have a decent group (I think it's 4 players maximum), decent equipment, and decent skills. Some dungeons have a more difficult veteran version. I'm not sure what the level requirements are now that Champion Points exist. Regular dungeons used to be level 45 and up, and veteran dungeons used to be Veteran Rank 1 and up.

Honestly I don't think there's much point doing Undaunted pledges unless you're after one of the equipment sets that they can reward you. If Mazul wants to try them though, I'm not gonna stand in her way

[Acadian]

If one wanted to level up the undaunted skill line to gain some of the abilities/passive perks, could taking daily delves from them be a way of doing it solo? I don't mind grouping so much but don't want to drive my schedule.

[Grits]

Indeed, I always learn something from hazmick's answers to other people's questions! I'm curious about how a solo player gets into Undaunted content as well.

CheshKhajiit, I haven't been harassed in the game while playing female characters, but a few people have noticed my female sounding username and sent me PSN messages. Nothing too gross, just people looking for attention. People sometimes stop and look at Lil, but only when she has her hair in the less popular styles. On the PS4 it's unusual to see a Bosmeri lass without big boobs and long hair.

Jerric gets the most notice of my crew, funnily enough. Probably because he dodge-rolls all over the place and takes a long time to kill things which can be entertaining, plus anyone nearby gets splashed with his healing spells. Once he grouped with a guy in Craglorn and the two of them caused mayhem for a while. The other guy kept running off and doing who knows what, so Jerric just kept on killing but stayed in their group of two. Then the guy ran back up and said he wanted to turn Jerric into a vampire, he would go to the shrine and Jerric should follow. Jerric said no but thanks. The guy would not take no for an answer. He finally sent mail with money and weapons and stuff attached saying here is some gold, now travel to me right now I'm turning you into a vampire. So I rolled my eyes, returned the note with attachments, and logged off until the guy sobered up. Sheesh. He must have really wanted to bite a shirtless, sweaty Nord that night.

Acadian, Buffy's progress sounds marvelous. I am so delighted for her! My favorite thing at a World Boss is when a healer shows up. They change everything. She is the tiny elf with a golden glow surrounding her. I completely understand the pressure that she feels, though.

I have no experience with end-game group content. My characters all have solo PvE builds since most are still learning their skills and leveling, so they can get by well on their own but are not stellar at any of the group roles.

[haute ecole rider]

Hey, it's great to know I'm not alone in preferring to solo on my own schedule.

That said, it is fun to group up, either officially or spontaneously, at the world bosses. And if I encounter a healer, I tend to stick pretty close!

[hazmick]

I'm pretty sure that Undaunted experience just comes from doing their daily pledge quests. It's not something I've bothered with myself, but I've heard that it's slow progress. You can also get some undaunted exp from completing the achievement that requires you to buy drinks for them in certain locations

[Acadian]

The reason I asked on the daily delves for the Undaunted was after reading this in UESP wiki:

'Delve Dailies are repeatable quests offered by Bolgrul, located at the Undaunted Enclave in each Alliance capital. These quests will send you to a specific delve in the world. Similar to pledges these quests are only available from level 45 onwards[verification needed — see talk page]. Unlike pledges however, these quests can be shared with your group, and thus it is possible to do up to 15 of these quests in a day per character. These quests will reward Undaunted reputation, as well as small box of rewards. These quests are one way of obtaining the Draugr motif.'

Later the same article says you gain 5 points toward Undaunted rep for each one. The passives Buffy are interested in require Undaunted rank 9. That translates to 260 daily delves! If it is something she can do solo she might pick away at is as she quite enjoys delves and they don't give her any trouble. And as she progresses, she might even try a Pledge to see what they are about.

[TheCheshireKhajiit]

CheshKhajiit, I haven't been harassed in the game while playing female characters, but a few people have noticed my female sounding username and sent me PSN messages. Nothing too gross, just people looking for attention. People sometimes stop and look at Lil, but only when she has her hair in the less popular styles. On the PS4 it's unusual to see a Bosmeri lass without big boobs and long hair.

Jerric gets the most notice of my crew, funnily enough. Probably because he dodge-rolls all over the place and takes a long time to kill things which can be entertaining, plus anyone nearby gets splashed with his healing spells. Once he grouped with a guy in Craglorn and the two of them caused mayhem for a while. The other guy kept running off and doing who knows what, so Jerric just kept on killing but stayed in their group of two. Then the guy ran back up and said he wanted to turn Jerric into a vampire, he would go to the shrine and Jerric should follow. Jerric said no but thanks. The guy would not take no for an answer. He finally sent mail with money and weapons and stuff attached saying here is some gold, now travel to me right now I'm turning you into a vampire. So I rolled my eyes, returned the note with attachments, and logged off until the guy sobered up. Sheesh. He must have really wanted to bite a shirtless, sweaty Nord that night.

This was most helpful. Khajiit is planning on releasing his Imperial Dragonknight tonight and now thanks to you guys' sharing your experience, this one feels better about making it a female.

[hazmick]

The reason I asked on the daily delves for the Undaunted was after reading this in UESP wiki:

'Delve Dailies are repeatable quests offered by Bolgrul, located at the Undaunted Enclave in each Alliance capital. These quests will send you to a specific delve in the world. Similar to pledges these quests are only available from level 45 onwards[verification needed — see talk page]. Unlike pledges however, these quests can be shared with your group, and thus it is possible to do up to 15 of these quests in a day per character. These quests will reward Undaunted reputation, as well as small box of rewards. These quests are one way of obtaining the Draugr motif.'

Later the same article says you gain 5 points toward Undaunted rep for each one. The passives Buffy are interested in require Undaunted rank 9. That translates to 260 daily delves! If it is something she can do solo she might pick away at is as she quite enjoys delves and they don't give her any trouble. And as she progresses, she might even try a Pledge to see what they are about.

260? Eeep that's a lot of delving!

Woops, I'd completely forgotten that the Undaunted give you delve dailies now. Sorry about that.

The daily delves for the Undaunted are the same as daily delves that I do in Wrothgar (and used to do in Gold Coast). You'll have to go to a specific delve, kill the boss, and do a little side objective. These dailies can be done solo, unlike the dungeon pledges. Not sure what the rewards are for these daily delves - I shall investigate.

EDIT: Ok, just ran a daily delve each with Haa-Rei and Ciri. They both got 3 pieces of non-set equipment (ornate enchantment on all), some food, and some drinks as well as some gold and regular and Undaunted exp. However, the bosses you have to kill in each delve can drop set gear so you can get some good stuff. The Undaunted exp reward is really the only reason to do these dailies from a reward point of view (I do this sort of stuff for fun). That said, Haa-Rei just slotted an Undaunted skill into his front bar so it might have been worth it after all

This post has been edited by hazmick: Dec 8 2016, 04:23 AM

[Grits]

hazmick, you are a star. After you explained it, Jerric did his first Undaunted daily delve tonight. This is exactly the kind of thing I have been making up for him to do, and here's someone who will actually hire him to do it! Woo!

Bonus that he already goes to the FG in Mournhold to get their dolmen jobs. Right around the corner.

Now I'm going to keep an eye out in guild chat for people looking for help with pledges. I'm sure there are folks already discussing them and I don't know what they're talking about.

[Acadian]

Thank you, hazmick! Like Grits, this exactly the kind of repeating quest that is right up Buffy's ally! Like Jerric, she enjoys delves whether someone rewards her or not.

[mALX]

Aww, thanks for the kind and encouraging words, mALX!

I suppose I should say that Buffy's spirit really has fully migrated into the magical healing templar. Our stamina bow sorc still exists but is now devoted to being our crafter. As such, her playing is geared primarily to accessing set crafting sites and gathering skyshards. She is near mastery with her four chosen crafts of wood, cloth, metal and enchanting. So I basically think now in terms of Buffy (the healing magplar) and our Crafter (the bowsorc).

Buffy is pretty comfortable using her healing and buffs to augment her own survival and offense but was very nervous 'overwatching' for Bubba - afraid she'd let him down. The prospect of healing/buffing others who rely on her is still intimidating - as much as she believes that is her calling. Successfully helping Bubba gave her a massive boost in confidence. She still feels unqualified to advertise herself as a healer for real groups but her confidence is growing.

She is tilted just slightly toward offense as a healer. Of her 10 ability slots, 5 are pure heal/buff, 4 are combination offense/buff/heal and one is offense/debuff. She is gradually developing the ability to switch out skills to support particular group needs if she knows what those are in advance. In addition to the general purpose healer/solo abilities mentioned, she should develop the ability to go almost all heal/buff (at the expense of offense) as well as two additional setups to support/buff groups that are either stamina or magicka heavy users. It all seems very intimidating still!

Bubba was seriously afraid of not being able to help Buffy and something happening to her (while she was there helping him) would be on him.

I do agree with you in not advertising yourself as a healer due to the pressure it would put you under to perform or actually being responsible for the other players. It would take the fun away from it and make it a chore - huge difference from just doing it out of the kindness of Buffy's heart.

I didn't want to make you or Buffy uncomfortable by asking for the help; but Bubba is just weak as a kitten - he needed a friend to help him.

I tried his upgraded armor, and it did help him a lot; but he is still not as good as Misa was at this level. Then again, she was at this level before the One Tamriel patch pumped up the enemy's abilities so badly. Misa used to solo take down the giant crab and the three netches in Stonefalls, now it takes an army for them.