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[mALX]

Another fun meet up, and TWO defeated world bosses! Much fun.

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The next guild meet shall be held on July 7th, same time and place. If anyone has any specific world boss or activity requests, speak up. Also, if anyone wants to organise any guild events at other times, feel free to do so and I can pop any info in the guild message in game.

These pics are Awesome, but the first one accentuates something I noticed at the meet = the lighting is really dark inside the Guild Hall! Holy Cow, it is really bad!!! I started to check the lights in the meet, but got distracted with trying to keep up with the conversations, lol. I'll try to fix that before our next meet. Sorry about that.

[TheCheshireKhajiit]

Another fun meet up, and TWO defeated world bosses! Much fun.

Centre Stage

Modelling

Practice

Relaxing



The next guild meet shall be held on July 7th, same time and place. If anyone has any specific world boss or activity requests, speak up. Also, if anyone wants to organise any guild events at other times, feel free to do so and I can pop any info in the guild message in game.

These pics are Awesome, but the first one accentuates something I noticed at the meet = the lighting is really dark inside the Guild Hall! Holy Cow, it is really bad!!! I started to check the lights in the meet, but got distracted with trying to keep up with the conversations, lol. I'll try to fix that before our next meet. Sorry about that.

Khajiit quite liked it! Atmosphere!

[hazmick]

I think the screenie might be making it look a little darker than it actually was, but indoor lighting is terrible in ESO. It's either sit in the dark or cover your ceiling in lanterns.

[mALX]

So Acadian, what did you mean about a "Skyshard run"? Were you proposing we invade Cyrodiil?

I don't want to speak for mALX, but I think she mentioned during the meet that a skyshard run might be something we could do.

Here, I'm speculating a bit: mALX has an add-on that shows skyshards on her map so she knows where they all are. She and I have gone out together to help a younger player run around a province and grab the skyshards so they end up with more skillpoints earlier on. The boss runs are a chance for higher level chars to show their stuff; perhaps a skyshard run is something that could benefit younger characters (who still need the shards) and allow the higher level characters to be in more of an escort/overwatch.

Buffy did exactly this quite some time ago for one of mALX's younger characters. mALX (with her map add on) led the way and Buffy helped make sure her new character stayed alive.

Another possibility, I suppose is to pick a public dungeon (they all have a skyshard) that someone does not have and go in together to make sure they get it. I know that task can be a bit of a challenge for characters that are low level and/or build more for fun than effectiveness.

Again, just some speculation on my part. Perhaps mALX will pop on here and confirm or correct what I've said.

Khajiit would be all for an excursion into Cyrodiil!

Count me in on that. I haven't gotten to see Cyrodiil in ESO yet. So many locations yet to explore, but for role-playing purposes my character wants to beat back the "imminent threats" (i.e. Pact and main quest). But guild get-togethers are priority #1 when they happen.

WOO HOO!!! This sounds terrific! Acadian is right about what I meant, but since you brought it up = if anyone (or everyone!) is willing to brave Cyrodiil - there are at least 16 skyshards down there and Britta only has two of them so far! (not to mention all the skyshards in the Imperial City, if anyone has that).

If anyone else has an Ebonheart Pact character and wants to make a run to Cyrodiil, let us plan a trip down there! (Can't mix alliances down there, and I only have Ebonheart Players right now).

#1 request: NOT on a weekend if at all possible! (too many PvP'ers on weekends looking to kill Players = can't get anything done for dying every time you leave the base).

There is extremely limited fast travel in Cyrodiil; so every time you die you have to re-walk the distance from the resurrection point (usually the nearest Keep your Alliance owns) - to where ever your team mates are.

** If anyone wants to actually do some Alliance War activities down there (also with an Ebonheart Pact character) - I would love doing that too!

We don't have enough members to storm a Keep, but could probably take some resources away from another Alliance - or maybe find a group to hook up with and take a Keep for Ebonheart! (that is what I had to do = not formally join a group because everyone down there was in a Guild that plays together in Cyrodiil; but they let me just travel with them as an informal guest)

I think the screenie might be making it look a little darker than it actually was, but indoor lighting is terrible in ESO. It's either sit in the dark or cover your ceiling in lanterns.

Agreed. And I think it has actually gotten worse the last few patches, that room never looked THAT dark before! I noticed it at the meet, it seemed much darker than it had always been before.

[TheCheshireKhajiit]

So Acadian, what did you mean about a "Skyshard run"? Were you proposing we invade Cyrodiil?

I don't want to speak for mALX, but I think she mentioned during the meet that a skyshard run might be something we could do.

Here, I'm speculating a bit: mALX has an add-on that shows skyshards on her map so she knows where they all are. She and I have gone out together to help a younger player run around a province and grab the skyshards so they end up with more skillpoints earlier on. The boss runs are a chance for higher level chars to show their stuff; perhaps a skyshard run is something that could benefit younger characters (who still need the shards) and allow the higher level characters to be in more of an escort/overwatch.

Buffy did exactly this quite some time ago for one of mALX's younger characters. mALX (with her map add on) led the way and Buffy helped make sure her new character stayed alive.

Another possibility, I suppose is to pick a public dungeon (they all have a skyshard) that someone does not have and go in together to make sure they get it. I know that task can be a bit of a challenge for characters that are low level and/or build more for fun than effectiveness.

Again, just some speculation on my part. Perhaps mALX will pop on here and confirm or correct what I've said.

Khajiit would be all for an excursion into Cyrodiil!

Count me in on that. I haven't gotten to see Cyrodiil in ESO yet. So many locations yet to explore, but for role-playing purposes my character wants to beat back the "imminent threats" (i.e. Pact and main quest). But guild get-togethers are priority #1 when they happen.

WOO HOO!!! This sounds terrific! Acadian is right about what I meant, but since you brought it up = if anyone (or everyone!) is willing to brave Cyrodiil - there are at least 16 skyshards down there and Britta only has two of them so far! (not to mention all the skyshards in the Imperial City, if anyone has that).

If anyone else has an Ebonheart Pact character and wants to make a run to Cyrodiil, let us plan a trip down there! (Can't mix alliances down there, and I only have Ebonheart Players right now).

#1 request: NOT on a weekend if at all possible! (too many PvP'ers on weekends looking to kill Players = can't get anything done for dying every time you leave the base).

There is extremely limited fast travel in Cyrodiil; so every time you die you have to re-walk the distance from the resurrection point (usually the nearest Keep your Alliance owns) - to where ever your team mates are.

** If anyone wants to actually do some Alliance War activities down there (also with an Ebonheart Pact character) - I would love doing that too!

We don't have enough members to storm a Keep, but could probably take some resources away from another Alliance - or maybe find a group to hook up with and take a Keep for Ebonheart! (that is what I had to do = not formally join a group because everyone down there was in a Guild that plays together in Cyrodiil; but they let me just travel with them as an informal guest)

Mira is EP. Khajiit is thinking Cyrodiil may be quieter later at night on weekdays.

[mALX]

Mira is EP. Khajiit is thinking Cyrodiil may be quieter later at night on weekdays.

No, the Alliance War runs all day and all night on weekdays or weekends = European and Japanese PvP'ers are on a 12 hour time difference from us; our night is their day. But weekdays def make a difference from weekends.

For skyshard hunting there, the weekdays are always best. If you want to join the Alliance War = Weekends are actually the most active; so huge groups to hook up with; but the lag is really bad on weekends. My PC (or ESO's server, whichever is to blame) isn't able to handle the lag in the game; every time combat started it would freeze my game and I'd hear a beeping sound (like the Microsoft "Error" sound). I managed to get some kills in somehow anyway; but died a lot of times I wouldn't have if my game wasn't jammed too.

If you want to earn Alliance Points, we can do it. Be prepared to die A LOT, but as long as one of us is alive they can resurrect the others. If we all die, we all have to resurrect at the nearest Keep. I went down there alone, but sometimes (especially inside a Keep) another Player resurrected me so I could get back into the fight.

(I think you get higher Alliance Points for healing and resurrecting than you do fighting; or at least equal points).





This post has been edited by mALX: Jun 3 2017, 08:48 PM

[Grits]

Great pictures, hazmick and Acadian, thank you for sharing them!

Lil was delighted to meet everyone last night. She was nervous about her first WB fight and had planned to bow out before the trip, but I’m glad she tagged along. I’m looking forward to July 7 already!

I would love to do some Chorrolite Cyrodiil exploring. Weekdays are always best for me, and it sounds as if my laptop is not up for the weekend PvP crunch anyway. I will have to learn as we go, as I have not ventured there other than some early PS4 looking around. Exciting!

[mALX]

Great pictures, hazmick and Acadian, thank you for sharing them!

Lil was delighted to meet everyone last night. She was nervous about her first WB fight and had planned to bow out before the trip, but I’m glad she tagged along. I’m looking forward to July 7 already!

I would love to do some Chorrolite Cyrodiil exploring. Weekdays are always best for me, and it sounds as if my laptop is not up for the weekend PvP crunch anyway. I will have to learn as we go, as I have not ventured there other than some early PS4 looking around. Exciting!

I'm still learning as I go too, lol. Although I brought several of my characters down there for Skyshard hunting, the only time I've ever spent actually doing the Alliance war was twice (both times with Britta).

It was the most fun I've had since I started playing ESO, it was a total blast! I died hundreds of times, but while alive I managed to help take Keeps, re-take resources, repair walls and doors of Keeps after attacks, escort an Elder Scroll from deep behind Daggerfall enemy lines all the way to its Keep behind Ebonheart's gates, and kill numerous other Players, etc.




This post has been edited by mALX: Jun 3 2017, 08:45 PM

[hazmick]

Cyrodiil can be a lot of fun, but as mALX said it can be frustrating when you die and have to respawn a long way from where you died. Also the lag.

Still, plenty of quests and exploration to do. Haa-Rei has been thinking of popping down some time to clear the dolmens and delves.

[mALX]

Cyrodiil can be a lot of fun, but as mALX said it can be frustrating when you die and have to respawn a long way from where you died. Also the lag.

Still, plenty of quests and exploration to do. Haa-Rei has been thinking of popping down some time to clear the dolmens and delves.

Has he gotten the skyshards there on the PC version? Britta will go too if he wants company! (but will also understand if he prefers solo).

[monkeyemoness]

Man, this would be perfect if Hates hadn't gotten everything in Cyrodiil a year and a half ago. I remember the late night during the summer waiting outside the DC and AD gates so she could sneak in and take the Skyshards. (Jo' and Eolan also got in on it--it was fun tbh) Come to think of it, outside of the day I spent with another player clearing dolmen, most of my travel in Cyrodiil was by sneaking. :V

I'd be happy to participate, though. Right now I'm not planning on taking Fjotreid out of Vvardenfell but I guess he could go in her place for Skyshards. Or the crafting monkey, come to think of it. He's EP, too.

This post has been edited by monkeyemoness: Jun 3 2017, 09:37 PM

[RaderOfTheLostArk]

Fighting for the Pact is always a worthy endeavor in my book (and Cincinnatus's)! I don't know how much help I'd be though, and it would only be my first time participating in the Alliance War. Unfortunately, though, I highly doubt I would be able to join earlier on on weekdays.

Speaking of, how much of Cyrodiil is PvP? I assume there are specific zones sectioned off for it?

[TheCheshireKhajiit]

Fighting for the Pact is always a worthy endeavor in my book (and Cincinnatus's)! I don't know how much help I'd be though, and it would only be my first time participating in the Alliance War. Unfortunately, though, I highly doubt I would be able to join earlier on on weekdays.

Speaking of, how much of Cyrodiil is PvP? I assume there are specific zones sectioned off for it?

None of Khajiit's characters have stepped foot in Cyrodiil (unless you count the Gold Coast; is that technically Cyrodiil in ESO?).

[hazmick]

Speaking of, how much of Cyrodiil is PvP? I assume there are specific zones sectioned off for it?

The entire region of Cyrodiil is PvP. There are delves and dolmens, just like PvE zones, but they're PvP too.

Each alliance has two safe zones to spawn in, do crafting, visit merchants etc. that can only be accessed by members of that alliance.

[mALX]

Fighting for the Pact is always a worthy endeavor in my book (and Cincinnatus's)! I don't know how much help I'd be though, and it would only be my first time participating in the Alliance War. Unfortunately, though, I highly doubt I would be able to join earlier on on weekdays.

Speaking of, how much of Cyrodiil is PvP? I assume there are specific zones sectioned off for it?

We can go at a time that is convenient for as many as possible, like we do for the Guild meetings; and if it is too late at night for others than I could probably go with you on certain nights.

In Cyrodiil it is all PvP except in your "home bases" = two safe zones for each Alliance where no enemy players can breach and you are perfectly safe. These are just small bases; about the size of Davon's Watch. One houses the bank/stables/crafting stations; the other has the Generals and it is where you pick up your orders for the war effort.

There are three orders:

1. Taking a Keep/Resource/Elder Scroll from an enemy - best if done by a group of 20 minimum for the Keeps and Elder Scrolls; you can ask to join a group who is doing it - or do what I do, just find a group doing it and tag along with them. For resources you can form a small raiding party and take on the NPC guards, but if the nearby Keep is manned by Players then expect them to come defend their resource and the fight will be on (so the more players you have on your side, the better).

* Some groups are Alliance War Guilds and won't formally group with non-members, but welcome the aid if you join along with them and will heal you/resurrect you if you fight beside them.


** Once the keep or resource is taken, your Alliance flag is posted on that site. You have to stand by it through the timer to formally take the Keep or resource - never forget to do this! After the timer runs out, the site is formally your Alliance's now. At this time you can claim them for your Guild (or if any of your Alliance owned Keeps are "Unclaimed," you can claim them for your Guild too). If you have taken a Keep or resource and don't see it registered in your journal, it is because you didn't wait out the timer at the flag to get the credit for the taking of it.



2. Bounty missions: Kill 20 enemy players of a certain type (Templars, NightBlades, etc) or Race. On bounty lists = you don't actually have to kill them all yourself: If you are in a group, every enemy player you hit in combat with weapons or spells who dies in that combat (whether by you or by another Allied player) counts toward this bounty sheet.

** It won't count in your journal of achievements unless you personally kill them; but for the bounty sheets = any hit you land on a player that dies counts toward that bounty sheet. So you can turn in a bounty sheet for killing 20 Templars, get paid and collect the Alliance Points for completed mission - go to your Achievements and look and it might say you only killed 5 Templars. That means that you only hit the other 15 Templars, but your team-mates killed them for you.

Because of this, it is always good to carry a bounty sheet on you at all times; because they can be filled up quickly in protecting a Keep or resource (or taking them) - and in combat hit as many enemy players as possible at least once.

As a Dragon Knight, Britta uses her chain and just tags every player she can reach while fighting. It works as a mild taunt in PvE, does minimal damage - but it interrupts a cast or heavy attack. In PvP it counts as a hit on every player it touches for that bounty list; and it can reach Players ranged well away from you = huge bonus in filling those bounty sheets up.

Also - as long as you have tagged an enemy and are still on the battlegrounds as the combat progresses = even if you are dead, every enemy you tagged that dies still counts on your bounty sheet, you can watch them being added to your list as you wait to be resurrected. For that reason, it is best not to resurrect yourself from a battlefield while combat is ongoing. Wait to either be resurrected or till the combat ends.



3. Scouting missions: It will send you to a certain place across enemy lines. When you get there, and in close enough; your character will stand up and write the report that you will hand in when you return to the base. These are the easiest missions to complete, and are the best ones for a character new to Cyrodiil because you can sneak to them and sneak back; grab skyshards on the way; and build up AP at lower risk of PvP combat.

You may still be spotted by enemy players and killed; but scouting missions are the lowest risk of the three for PvP danger because you can sneak; avoid main roadways, etc.



Most people always pick up the orders just in case you happen to fill it in the course of your actions in Cyrodiil; but as far as taking the Keeps and resources/Elder Scrolls goes - those are actually done by real-time strategy. (What Keep will avail the Pact the best; or which will hurt the enemy most to lose). But you want to have the orders just in case one of those Keeps is one you have the orders for, so you get the benefit of a huge boost for completing a mission. (You get AP for taking the Keep already, so getting the mission completed is a real bonus).


If you want to gain Alliance Points but want to ease into PvP a little slower than attacking Keeps; you can always defend a Keep. Choose one of your Alliance owned Keeps and keep it repaired; defend it when it is attacked. (the Keep's Quartermaster will sell you repair kits to fix the doors and walls after each attack)

You can buy ballistas/trebuchets/etc - or you can use a bow or staff from the wall of the keep (good way to tag players for the bounty sheet). But if they breach the Keep and enter, you will have to fight. If you die, DO NOT resurrect yourself unless the map shows the Keep has changed hands; because your Allies may fight them off, and if so you will get huge Alliance Points for defending the Keep, even if you lay dead through most of the combat. (of course if one of your allies resurrects you, that is great; just don't resurrect yourself because doing that will take you out of the Keep under attack).

In PvP = most of the kills on players come from critical hits, so wearing armor and enchantments that protect you from them is best; or if you plan to spend time actually in the War Effort down there = putting champion points into negating critical hits against you is a good idea. (if you are a tank, you may consider wearing your tanking gear. I didn't, and died a lot. I fought 4 tanks and two of them I had to let go because I couldn't budge their health bars).





This post has been edited by mALX: Jun 4 2017, 06:28 PM

[mALX]

Fighting for the Pact is always a worthy endeavor in my book (and Cincinnatus's)! I don't know how much help I'd be though, and it would only be my first time participating in the Alliance War. Unfortunately, though, I highly doubt I would be able to join earlier on on weekdays.

Speaking of, how much of Cyrodiil is PvP? I assume there are specific zones sectioned off for it?

None of Khajiit's characters have stepped foot in Cyrodiil (unless you count the Gold Coast; is that technically Cyrodiil in ESO?).

The Gold coast is not PvP, and can't be accessed from Cyrodiil in the ESO game (even though technically via the single player Elder Scrolls game's maps it is a part of Cyrodiil)

[RaderOfTheLostArk]

The Gold coast is not PvP, and can't be accessed from Cyrodiil in the ESO game (even though technically via the single player Elder Scrolls game's maps it is a part of Cyrodiil)

Good. I figured as much since it didn't make sense to me to have that be PvP, but just wanted to be sure. I wanted to go see Kvatch. Anvil too, but Kvatch more so because...well, you know.

Does the same go for the Imperial City?

[Acadian]

Imp City is PvP.

Anvil and Kvatch in the Gold Coast are magnificent though.

[mALX]

The Gold coast is not PvP, and can't be accessed from Cyrodiil in the ESO game (even though technically via the single player Elder Scrolls game's maps it is a part of Cyrodiil)

Good. I figured as much since it didn't make sense to me to have that be PvP, but just wanted to be sure. I wanted to go see Kvatch. Anvil too, but Kvatch more so because...well, you know.

Does the same go for the Imperial City?

No, the Imperial City is all PvP.

[RaderOfTheLostArk]

Imp City is PvP.

Anvil and Kvatch in the Gold Coast are magnificent though.

No, the Imperial City is all PvP.

Ah, figured as much. Oh well. I guess I can go sightseeing there when my character gets stronger and goes to clobber Covenant and Dominion heads left and right.

Yeah, definitely looking forward to traveling around the Gold Coast and the rest of Tamriel when the time for my character comes.