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TheCheshireKhajiit
I guess Khajiit was just curious about your preferred way to play the game.
mirocu
You have to specify; do you mean what plasmids I prefer or how to deal with the Little Sisters? smile.gif
TheCheshireKhajiit
QUOTE(mirocu @ Dec 18 2016, 02:08 PM) *

You have to specify; do you mean what plasmids I prefer or how to deal with the Little Sisters? smile.gif

Both
mirocu
QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Dec 18 2016, 09:09 PM) *

QUOTE(mirocu @ Dec 18 2016, 02:08 PM) *

You have to specify; do you mean what plasmids I prefer or how to deal with the Little Sisters? smile.gif

Both

Ah, ok smile.gif

Been a few years since I played these games, but I think I used electricity and fire a lot in both games. Ice not so much since that didn't get me any loot. I would have used more plasmids more often but I like to keep things simple as a complicated strategy can throw you off in a panic situation. I did use most of them though from time to time.


And I saved every Little Sister, wasn't even a choice for me. Can't be mean to an innocent child, you know sad.gif
TheCheshireKhajiit
QUOTE(mirocu @ Dec 18 2016, 02:17 PM) *

QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Dec 18 2016, 09:09 PM) *

QUOTE(mirocu @ Dec 18 2016, 02:08 PM) *

You have to specify; do you mean what plasmids I prefer or how to deal with the Little Sisters? smile.gif

Both

Ah, ok smile.gif

Been a few years since I played these games, but I think I used electricity and fire a lot in both games. Ice not so much since that didn't get me any loot. I would have used more plasmids more often but I like to keep things simple as a complicated strategy can throw you off in a panic situation. I did use most of them though from time to time.


And I saved every Little Sister, wasn't even a choice for me. Can't be mean to an innocent child, you know sad.gif
Ah ok gotcha. As for Khajiit, he would save one little sister, and harvest the next and so on. To every one he harvested he would say, "Nothing personal little monster. Just the luck of the draw. Please accept my sincerest apologies.".

biggrin.gif
mirocu
I really could never harvest any of them. I remember the options coming up on the screen the first time but I only saw "Save" and thus I chose it.


ADAM may be useful but I did have guns which is all I really need... wink.gif
TheCheshireKhajiit
QUOTE(mirocu @ Dec 18 2016, 02:53 PM) *

I really could never harvest any of them. I remember the options coming up on the screen the first time but I only saw "Save" and thus I chose it.


ADAM may be useful but I did have guns which is all I really need... wink.gif

It's cool that the game gives you that option.
mirocu
Oh, definitely. I like that the game allows you to play however you want as much as possible. After all, we're all ES fans here, right? wink.gif
TheCheshireKhajiit
QUOTE(mirocu @ Dec 18 2016, 03:06 PM) *

Oh, definitely. I like that the game allows you to play however you want as much as possible. After all, we're all ES fans here, right? wink.gif

Exactamundo!
mirocu
Not to steal Khajiit's way of talking, but this one is off to bed now.

Only problem is I've had a real BESTie evening; listening to some of their songs over and over plus watching a couple of their dance instruction videos just for fun. So I'm gonna have a hard time going to sleep now tongue.gif


But I'll try: sleep.gif
TheCheshireKhajiit
QUOTE(mirocu @ Dec 18 2016, 04:00 PM) *

Not to steal Khajiit's way of talking, but this one is off to bed now.

Only problem is I've had a real BESTie evening; listening to some of their songs over and over plus watching a couple of their dance instruction videos just for fun. So I'm gonna have a hard time going to sleep now tongue.gif


But I'll try: sleep.gif

Raven is overstimulated! Lol

G'night, Mr. Nevermore!
mirocu
I was indeed by somehow I managed to fall asleep tongue.gif


I also watched two compilations of their instagram videos yesterday. Man, those girls are goofy! laugh.gif
TheCheshireKhajiit
QUOTE(mirocu @ Dec 19 2016, 01:38 AM) *

I was indeed by somehow I managed to fall asleep tongue.gif


I also watched two compilations of their instagram videos yesterday. Man, those girls are goofy! laugh.gif

Khajiit likes goofy people! Most of the time tongue.gif

Time for Khajiit to go to sleep. Goodnight all!
mirocu
Nighty-night! biggrin.gif
mALX
QUOTE(mirocu @ Dec 18 2016, 04:22 AM) *

Khajiits and mALXes alike, I reckon laugh.gif



Whatchya doing then, Khajiit? I spent yesterday browsing the Bioshock wiki tongue.gif



mALX's only climb up the real fir trees, lol.





QUOTE(mirocu @ Dec 18 2016, 02:36 PM) *

Edit: Or do you mean how he was playing wrong? Well, he merely played too fast. I want to explore, look in every crate etc and generally take it slower. That's what I had to do right laugh.gif



Most def agree with this.


haute ecole rider
Me too - prefer to explore and get to know an area inch by inch rather than zipping from quest arrow to quest arrow.

Ooops, for a moment thought this was the ESO thread . . .

mALX
QUOTE(haute ecole rider @ Dec 19 2016, 10:14 AM) *

Me too - prefer to explore and get to know an area inch by inch rather than zipping from quest arrow to quest arrow.

Ooops, for a moment thought this was the ESO thread . . .



I had a whole paragraph saying the same thing, but deleted it for my short answer, lol. But yeah, I have played with some people that act like getting to the big boss at the end of a dungeon (or from big boss to big boss in a dungeon) is the only important part - I want to explore and loot. I know you can't take too long or the enemies will respawn on you, but ... it doesn't take long to hit the bookshelves and open a chest or urn.


Darkness Eternal
Wow just met a cashier at Walmart named Vivek hahaha!
mirocu
QUOTE(Darkness Eternal @ Dec 19 2016, 04:34 PM) *

Wow just met a cashier at Walmart named Vivek hahaha!

No kidding??


Did you refer to him as The Mangod? rollinglaugh.gif rollinglaugh.gif rollinglaugh.gif
mALX
QUOTE(Darkness Eternal @ Dec 19 2016, 10:34 AM) *

Wow just met a cashier at Walmart named Vivek hahaha!


WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT !!!!!!!!!! I wonder how many people approach him with comments on his name? laugh.gif



TheCheshireKhajiit
QUOTE(Darkness Eternal @ Dec 19 2016, 09:34 AM) *

Wow just met a cashier at Walmart named Vivek hahaha!

Lol, did you tell him his name was misspelled? tongue.gif
Callidus Thorn
QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Dec 19 2016, 04:40 PM) *

QUOTE(Darkness Eternal @ Dec 19 2016, 09:34 AM) *

Wow just met a cashier at Walmart named Vivek hahaha!

Lol, did you tell him his name was misspelled? tongue.gif


Probably best not to tempt his wrath, just in case... rollinglaugh.gif
Kane
I'd have accused him of murdering Nerevar.
mirocu
QUOTE(Cain @ Dec 19 2016, 08:51 PM) *

I'd have accused him of murdering Nerevar.

rollinglaugh.gif rollinglaugh.gif
TheCheshireKhajiit
QUOTE(Cain @ Dec 19 2016, 01:51 PM) *

I'd have accused him of murdering Nerevar.

Bahahaha!
TheCheshireKhajiit
Khajiit doesn't really understand why Baar Dau was allowed to hover over Vivec City. UESP says it was allowed by Vivec as a threat to the city if they ever stopped loving him. This seems rather crappy of Vivec. Should've had folks with pickaxes and other such tools up there breaking it down so that it wouldn't be a threat any more.
mALX
QUOTE(Cain @ Dec 19 2016, 02:51 PM) *

I'd have accused him of murdering Nerevar.



rollinglaugh.gif rollinglaugh.gif rollinglaugh.gif






QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Dec 19 2016, 03:53 PM) *

Khajiit doesn't really understand why Baar Dau was allowed to hover over Vivec City. UESP says it was allowed by Vivec as a threat to the city if they ever stopped loving him. This seems rather crappy of Vivec. Should've had folks with pickaxes and other such tools up there breaking it down so that it wouldn't be a threat any more.



Maybe it was really a Vivec doppleganger (like Uriel Septim/Jagar Tharn during the Imperial Simulacrum).



mirocu
Wish I could get me some jolly Christmas crackers biggrin.gif
TheCheshireKhajiit
QUOTE(mirocu @ Dec 19 2016, 03:41 PM) *

Wish I could get me some jolly Christmas crackers biggrin.gif

What are these crackers you speak of?
mirocu
You know, those things you snap open and out flies a paper hat, a joke and a plastic toy, all from Poundland biggrin.gif
TheCheshireKhajiit
QUOTE(mirocu @ Dec 19 2016, 03:48 PM) *

You know, those things you snap open and out flies a paper hat, a joke and a plastic toy, all from Poundland biggrin.gif

Oooh ok!
mirocu
Heh, I'd better start looking to see if I can get sponsorship from them. I've promoted them quite good thus far laugh.gif
Callidus Thorn
QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Dec 19 2016, 08:53 PM) *

Khajiit doesn't really understand why Baar Dau was allowed to hover over Vivec City. UESP says it was allowed by Vivec as a threat to the city if they ever stopped loving him. This seems rather crappy of Vivec. Should've had folks with pickaxes and other such tools up there breaking it down so that it wouldn't be a threat any more.


Some thoughts off the top of my head:

Well for one; Vivec could be kind of crappy like that.

For two; It serves as a monument to his power. Should his people take him for granted, or think him powerless, he could show them exactly what that would look like.

For three; Insurance against the coming of the Nerevarine. WMD looming overhead rather eliminates the possibility of a popular uprising.

And finally; Insurance against the Nerevarine themselves. Kill Vivec, or deprive him of access to the Heart and Kagrenac's tools, and catastrophe ensues. A city full of hostages, and a potential scorched earth policy, would have given him substantial leverage.
TheCheshireKhajiit
QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Dec 19 2016, 03:58 PM) *

Some thoughts off the top of my head:

Well for one; Vivec could be kind of crappy like that.

For two; It serves as a monument to his power. Should his people take him for granted, or think him powerless, he could show them exactly what that would look like.

For three; Insurance against the coming of the Nerevarine. WMD looming overhead rather eliminates the possibility of a popular uprising.

And finally; Insurance against the Nerevarine themselves. Kill Vivec, or deprive him of access to the Heart and Kagrenac's tools, and catastrophe ensues. A city full of hostages, and a potential scorched earth policy, would have given him substantial leverage.

So he goes to all that trouble just to resign himself (and thus The Tribunal) to his fate when confronted by the Nerevarine?
Callidus Thorn
QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Dec 19 2016, 10:24 PM) *

QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Dec 19 2016, 03:58 PM) *

Some thoughts off the top of my head:

Well for one; Vivec could be kind of crappy like that.

For two; It serves as a monument to his power. Should his people take him for granted, or think him powerless, he could show them exactly what that would look like.

For three; Insurance against the coming of the Nerevarine. WMD looming overhead rather eliminates the possibility of a popular uprising.

And finally; Insurance against the Nerevarine themselves. Kill Vivec, or deprive him of access to the Heart and Kagrenac's tools, and catastrophe ensues. A city full of hostages, and a potential scorched earth policy, would have given him substantial leverage.

So he goes to all that trouble just to resign himself (and thus The Tribunal) to his fate when confronted by the Nerevarine?


Dagoth Ur had become a threat The Tribunal couldn't deal with. By that point Sotha Sil and Almalexia had lost Sunder and Keening, denying the Tribunal the source of their power. Those two were practically in hiding, and Vivec was putting so much into maintaining the Ghostfence that he couldn't even leave his palace.

There was no longer anything to be gained by opposing the Nerevarine, who was the only one capable of stopping Dagoth Ur.
TheCheshireKhajiit
QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Dec 19 2016, 04:37 PM) *

Dagoth Ur had become a threat The Tribunal couldn't deal with. By that point Sotha Sil and Almalexia had lost Sunder and Keening, denying the Tribunal the source of their power. Those two were practically in hiding, and Vivec was putting so much into maintaining the Ghostfence that he couldn't even leave his palace.

There was no longer anything to be gained by opposing the Nerevarine, who was the only one capable of stopping Dagoth Ur.
Khajiit doesn't think he will ever understand the way The Tribunal acted. If you know you are not a true god then you shouldn't set yourself up as one, because eventually you will be proven false. But hey, it made for one heck of a story!
Callidus Thorn
QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Dec 19 2016, 11:13 PM) *

QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Dec 19 2016, 04:37 PM) *

Dagoth Ur had become a threat The Tribunal couldn't deal with. By that point Sotha Sil and Almalexia had lost Sunder and Keening, denying the Tribunal the source of their power. Those two were practically in hiding, and Vivec was putting so much into maintaining the Ghostfence that he couldn't even leave his palace.

There was no longer anything to be gained by opposing the Nerevarine, who was the only one capable of stopping Dagoth Ur.
Khajiit doesn't think he will ever understand the way The Tribunal acted. If you know you are not a true god then you shouldn't set yourself up as one, because eventually you will be proven false. But hey, it made for one heck of a story!


As long as the Tribunal had access to the Heart, they were gods, albeit gods lacking inherent divinity, so they could get away with it. It was arrogant of them to think that they could maintain it indefinitely, but I suppose arrogance comes with that kind of power. Though Vivec pretty much earned his godhood via other means after the fact. But presenting themselves as gods gave them both authority and control, as well as an unassailable position.

All thing considered, it was probably worth their gamble.

Edit: urgh, it takes me way too long to type mad.gif
TheCheshireKhajiit
QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Dec 19 2016, 06:12 PM) *

As long as the Tribunal had access to the Heart, they were gods, albeit gods lacking inherent divinity, so they could get away with it. It was arrogant of them to think that they could maintain it indefinitely, but I suppose arrogance comes with that kind of power. Though Vivec pretty much earned his godhood via other means after the fact. But presenting themselves as gods gave them both authority and control, as well as an unassailable position.

All thing considered, it was probably worth their gamble.

Edit: urgh, it takes me way too long to type mad.gif

This makes sense, Khajiit supposes. It is easy for this one to say they were fools for setting themselves up as gods, but not being true gods (and therefore not omnipotent), they probably didn't foresee the trouble they would have in maintaining their "godhood".
mALX
QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Dec 19 2016, 05:24 PM) *

QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Dec 19 2016, 03:58 PM) *

Some thoughts off the top of my head:

Well for one; Vivec could be kind of crappy like that.

For two; It serves as a monument to his power. Should his people take him for granted, or think him powerless, he could show them exactly what that would look like.

For three; Insurance against the coming of the Nerevarine. WMD looming overhead rather eliminates the possibility of a popular uprising.

And finally; Insurance against the Nerevarine themselves. Kill Vivec, or deprive him of access to the Heart and Kagrenac's tools, and catastrophe ensues. A city full of hostages, and a potential scorched earth policy, would have given him substantial leverage.

So he goes to all that trouble just to resign himself (and thus The Tribunal) to his fate when confronted by the Nerevarine?


What if it was all illusion magic = a bluff? He says "If anyone dares," well, Baar Dau was huge so no one dared oppose Vivec or it. The first one that did dare was the Nerevarine; so Vivec would have to step down since the threat was only an illusion to begin with.



TheCheshireKhajiit
QUOTE(mALX @ Dec 19 2016, 08:57 PM) *

What if it was all illusion magic? He says "If anyone dares," well, Baar Dau was huge so no one dared oppose Vivec or it. The first one that did dare was the Nerevarine; so Vivec would have to step down since the threat was only an illusion to begin with.

So basically, Vivec had no control over Baar Dau and the Nerevarine called his bluff?
mALX
QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Dec 19 2016, 06:13 PM) *

QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Dec 19 2016, 04:37 PM) *

Dagoth Ur had become a threat The Tribunal couldn't deal with. By that point Sotha Sil and Almalexia had lost Sunder and Keening, denying the Tribunal the source of their power. Those two were practically in hiding, and Vivec was putting so much into maintaining the Ghostfence that he couldn't even leave his palace.

There was no longer anything to be gained by opposing the Nerevarine, who was the only one capable of stopping Dagoth Ur.
Khajiit doesn't think he will ever understand the way The Tribunal acted. If you know you are not a true god then you shouldn't set yourself up as one, because eventually you will be proven false. But hey, it made for one heck of a story!



Power. If your goal is power, and you can get it by creating the image that you are a god - if it works, even for a while, you have achieved your goal.




QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Dec 19 2016, 07:12 PM) *

As long as the Tribunal had access to the Heart, they were gods, albeit gods lacking inherent divinity, so they could get away with it. It was arrogant of them to think that they could maintain it indefinitely, but I suppose arrogance comes with that kind of power. Though Vivec pretty much earned his godhood via other means after the fact. But presenting themselves as gods gave them both authority and control, as well as an unassailable position.

All thing considered, it was probably worth their gamble.

Edit: urgh, it takes me way too long to type mad.gif



THORNY !!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOT !!!! And very good point !!!





QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Dec 19 2016, 10:00 PM) *

QUOTE(mALX @ Dec 19 2016, 08:57 PM) *

What if it was all illusion magic? He says "If anyone dares," well, Baar Dau was huge so no one dared oppose Vivec or it. The first one that did dare was the Nerevarine; so Vivec would have to step down since the threat was only an illusion to begin with.

So basically, Vivec had no control over Baar Dau and the Nerevarine called his bluff?


I was saying that Baar Dau was the illusion.



mirocu
Good morning, Elder Scrolls nerds! biggrin.gif
mALX
QUOTE(mirocu @ Dec 20 2016, 02:14 AM) *

Good morning, Elder Scrolls nerds! biggrin.gif



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mirocu
Hello there, mALX! I see you're sporting the bushy ears look today laugh.gif
TheCheshireKhajiit
QUOTE(mirocu @ Dec 20 2016, 02:06 AM) *

Hello there, mALX! I see you're sporting the bushy ears look today laugh.gif

She looks like Khajiit's cousin Lynx with the ear tufts!
mirocu
She does! ohmy.gif


Incidentally, I think there is a Lynx snowmobile brand. Is mALX a new salessquirrel for them perhaps? laugh.gif
Callidus Thorn
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QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Dec 19 2016, 06:12 PM) *

As long as the Tribunal had access to the Heart, they were gods, albeit gods lacking inherent divinity, so they could get away with it. It was arrogant of them to think that they could maintain it indefinitely, but I suppose arrogance comes with that kind of power. Though Vivec pretty much earned his godhood via other means after the fact. But presenting themselves as gods gave them both authority and control, as well as an unassailable position.

All thing considered, it was probably worth their gamble.

Edit: urgh, it takes me way too long to type mad.gif

This makes sense, Khajiit supposes. It is easy for this one to say they were fools for setting themselves up as gods, but not being true gods (and therefore not omnipotent), they probably didn't foresee the trouble they would have in maintaining their "godhood".


I'm not sure that any entity in TES is omnipotent. Not any of the ones we have any kind of contact with, at least. As for the Tribunal, they thought Dagoth Ur was dead, so what was their that could challenge them? And by the time they learnt he was alive, it was far too late to do anything.

QUOTE(mALX @ Dec 20 2016, 03:07 AM) *

THORNY !!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOT !!!!


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I'm now able to type a little with my left hand, but I'm trying to avoid it for the most part. It's not quite painful, but typing anything more than a couple of short sentences is uncomfortable. I've regained just about all of the flexibility in the wrist, though it's still a little weak, and it can't handle much in the way of pressure for any length of time. But even so, it's still improving faster than I expected.

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QUOTE(mALX @ Dec 19 2016, 08:57 PM) *

What if it was all illusion magic? He says "If anyone dares," well, Baar Dau was huge so no one dared oppose Vivec or it. The first one that did dare was the Nerevarine; so Vivec would have to step down since the threat was only an illusion to begin with.

So basically, Vivec had no control over Baar Dau and the Nerevarine called his bluff?


I was saying that Baar Dau was the illusion.


If that were the case it would have disappeared after Vivec vanished.
mirocu
I heard even the mangod Vivec has fallen to the daedra hordes! ohmy.gif
Kane
Well, he did do the deed with Molag Bal.
Uleni Athram
Well, he IS the magic hermaphrodite after all. It doesn't surprise me that he tumbled with Molag Bal.
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