I have had guns for about fifteen years due to us having a plot of land on which to hunt for moose and deer. However I have always had a bigger interest in the shooting part than the hunting part, and since I came across hickok45 on youtube that interest has gotten new life.

I just love how he does it. Instead of only shooting moose paper targets like we do here, he shoots at flower pots, car doors, metal figures and 2 liter soda cans etc. I quickly realized that's what I want to do too though unfortunately I have limited abilities since our plot of land is shaped the way it is which is quite narrow with neighbours not too far away. But I did put up a few brick targets earlier this fall and had a go on them with my .30-06 semi-auto, and it really was such a fun way of shooting! Though needless to say, that round is pretty expensive and I may go look for a smaller caliber in the near future.

This is one instance where I kinda wish I was a Murican. Our views on guns here is they should only be used on paper targets or clay pigeons and for hunting and it should only be done to better ourselves. Just having fun like this or defend ourselves simply doesn't exist here which is a shame. But I'll do my part to change that...

So if kiln anyone would like to chime in on the subject of shooting for fun, please do!

I've shot guns for fun. I went to the range a few times to shoot back home. My step-father had three guns, including a shotgun. I shot some rifles and went bird hunting in Ohio too. Fun times.

Now I can't say I owe any guns. They're extremely hard to purchase in the country I'm in. But I dream about it every day. Funny you made this thread. A few hours ago a worker here saw me trying to poison the pigeons that live in my roof. I told him if the poison doesn't work I'm going to need a pellet gun. I also had the fear the stray dogs would get to the poison and eat it, so I wanted to spare the mutts. I love dogs. But the flying rats is another story . . . I do wish I had a real one so I can blast those pests. But, well, a pellet gun it is.

Which country are you from by the way? Back home, as you know, us Americans love guns. It is deeply rooted in our culture. In Brazil, they believe only police should have them. Funny thing is yesterday they just passed a new project that allows common citizens to conceal carry, and brought the age to legally buy a gun from 25 down to 21. But that's another story.

I like guns. For recreational purposes, and of course, for self-defense. And right now . . . for blasting pigeons.

Suezia!

And yeah, I do know the American view on guns. I would love to get my hands on an AR15, a 1911 and the classic Colt .45 single action!


They do have a practial role for sure.

I kinda wish there were better opportunites here to shoot like hickok45 does. I´ll try and see what I can do at our place regarding good open spaces where I can shoot with safety in mind. I like the idea of shooting whenever I want, not setting the alarm clock on Sunday mornings to go to the shooting range, something I can only do a few short weeks in the fall, btw.

Here in Detroit people shoot guns all the time. Usually at other people though! New Years Eve in The D is great. Everyone pulls out their guns and starts shooting. You hear handguns, shotguns, rifles, automatics...

I have gone shooting shotguns a few times. It was a long time ago, but a lot of fun. I would love to own a .45 ACP and/or an M4 Carbine. But it is so much work. You have to go to a store, fill out forms, etc... I don't live in the country, so the only way I can actually go shooting (without being arrested) is to go out to a gun range. Then afterward you have to clean the guns. It's just so much effort, and I am so lazy...

Too lazy!? You can get those guns but you´re too lazy!?? Here it´s impossible to get those guns no matter what you do, and you dare to be lazy?? GET OUT AND GET THEM NOW OR I´LL KICK YOU OUT OF THIS THREAD!!

Here it is on the 4th of July, their own special brand of fireworks for those who don't want to buy all the bottle rockets/etc. = drunk men shooting into the air with every gun in their arsenal,

The next gun on my wishlist would be the MP5. Such a neat little gun and I´m just a sucker for full auto guns Apparently it fires 10mm which is a nice caliber so if I could get this, I would have so much fun


This video with hickok45 displays this gun for anyone interested


If only I was a Murican...


-Hey, Acadian, mALX or kiln. Anyone want a new neighbour...?

I've been throwing bird seed in the air hoping to attract you to my yard, but all I got was a flock of pigeons,


PS: I prefer semi-automatics. (just in case you hit the trigger accidentally, don't want to blow your whole clip, lol).

Yeah, that´s why I didn´t bother. I just knew they´d get to it before me anyway

Not many guns are fully automatic only, and neither is the MP5. I like the semi-auto mode too, good for picking a target here and there.

My 9mm was semi-automatic. You could squeeze it once and get 1-5 bullets to unload from the clip; but if you squeezed and held it would empty the clip (about 18 hollowpoints).

Semi-automatics are required to have a disconnector in the trigger group that resets the trigger every time the slide or bolt cycles. Which means one shot per trigger pull. Any time you have a gun that fires more than once when you hold the trigger and you didn't fill out government paperwork and go through a lengthy background check, you need to get it checked out because something is wrong.

Here in the US if your semi automatic gun fires full auto consistently, you need to get it fixed because if you know it is doing it and intentionally don't repair it, you can be charged with illegally possessing a machinegun. Burst fire weapons (2+ shots per single trigger pull) are also considered machineguns and are heavily regulated.

As for the trigger being hit accidentally, the best part about following the three NRA safety rules is that if you screw up one the others will still protect you. For instance if you bump the trigger but the gun is not pointed in an unsafe direction, it won't injure anyone. A properly secured gun should not pose any risk of this happening anyways, although if you're not careful, injury is always a major possibility.

I own quite a few firearms that I use for sport shooting from clays to paper targets including a semi automatic AK, two bolt action WW2 era rifles, several shotguns, and a decent collection of handguns. I dislike killing anything so I don't generally hunt, although I have killed quite a few pests like armadillos and snakes. When I'm not out on a range I keep only one handgun loaded and placed up high on top of the gun cabinet for self defense, which I hope I never need.

Guns can be a lot of fun, an interesting hobby, and completely safe as long as you practice safe handling and keep your gun out of the reach of anyone who shouldn't have access to it.

I really wish that people everywhere were allowed to at least own rimfire rifles and handguns. While still dangerous, they are much less lethal than centerfire guns and are still great for target shooting and pest control. I feel like it is unfortunate that most people learn about guns from movies and tv, which almost exclusively sends the wrong message, which is that guns are only for bad guys and cops. It often also teaches unsafe handling and glorifies violence.

I'd post a picture or two of some of my favorite firearms but I'm not sure if anyone would be upset by it, especially the site's admins.

Speaking of fun with guns, I had some car windows shot out last night. Anyone need to confess?

Er...not me...

I completely agree with you about guns on film; if they didn´t portray them like that it wouldn´t be so difficult to get a license.


I heard a guy on the radio one time. He was so sick of his car that one day he took it to a safe location and just pumped the whole side of it full of lead with a shotgun!

And no, I don´t need to confess anything..

If you didn't hear it, it was with a BB/Pellet gun. Almost guaranteed to be teenagers. You can buy a BB gun when you're 18 but lots of people buy BB guns for their immature kids (which they never supervise) who use them for vandalism.

I´d very much like to get a .22, both rifle and pistol/revolver. But since apparently pistols and revolvers are the most dangerous things on the face of the Earth (in my country anyway) it´s extremely difficult to get them so that´s out of the question. A rifle .22 is almost as hard to get a license for but at least I have a shot at it so I´m definitely gonna try get it. And I want it to be a semi-auto


hickok45 having some fun at the range

That vid isn't playing for me. But ... isn't a 22 rifle known as ... a SQUIRREL GUN????????


GAAAAAAAAH !!!!!!!

The link works for me


Oops. I´ve been found out...

*mALX turns green and grows to giant proportions*

Calm down. I only hunt evil squirrels


-Hey, hickok! Glad to see you visiting me, but could you please stop shooting all my soda

GRRRRRRRR! He splattered a squirrel !!!! Urk!!!


I'll turn green and grow to giant proportions later, not feeling good enough right now.

I don´t think he shot a squirrel, just some sodas. No need to turn green and grow to giant proportions

Red bloody sodas with brain matter and bushy tails?


Grrrr.

So, interested in two guns now I can actually get


First one is a .22 automatic plinker; the Remington 597 Magnum WMR

Second one is the Marlin 336C in the classic caliber .30-30

I´m planning to go look at them in the near future, hopefully this or next week. I won´t get them just now anyway since there is the usual license process to go through first. The guns actually aren´t that expensive at all which is why I´m getting them both.

NO SQUIRRELS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who do you take me for? I´ll only shoot water melons and flower pots

I was afraid the license process could take up to six months because it has been that way, but according to the guys it´s now down to four weeks!! I may get them before Christmas!!!

Congrats!

Thanks!


Still longer than getting a fully automatic rifle in the States; "Let´s see... milk, egg, bacon and an Uzi. Got it"

When I lived in Baltimore this was true, very much so. I lived an a "safe" neighborhood, but right across this one bridge was where it got rough. We'd hear gunshot frequently; I can remember calling 911 at least once every other month.

Dang. Sorry mirocu, I'm off-topic, I know. I've never shot a gun for fun before. I'll be leaving now. I won't let the door hit me on my way out.

*door hits Renee on her way out*

Ouch.

That may not be as far off as it sounds, a female friend of mine managed to get an uzi without much trouble, and she is not one you would expect to be able to access something like that,








BWAAHAA!

No worries, Renee. I just don´t want this thread to be about that type of shooting


Please don´t sue me for that door hitting you....


See!?? I can´t even get a pistol and I have not committed a crime in my life!


I just facepalm myself everytime I hear hickok45 talk about his mom getting his dad a gun for Christmas. I´m like wtf??

Hickock may live in a compound,

Acquiring a legal full auto is very difficult. It involves a lengthy background check process, a waiting period of approximately six months, a local law-enforcement sign off, and is also incredibly expensive.

Illegal full auto is worse. It will cost you a couple hundred grand in fines and many years of your freedom, up to life imprisonment. They take it seriously.

They do sell semi-automatic Uzi's but they function like a regular pistol. Having access is easy, having the money is another thing entirely.

Detroit is a perfect example of how criminals don't care what your laws are. My question is, if they're shooting at each other, does anyone really think they care that their gun isn't legal?

No, we don't care. If you go to Detroit on New Years Eve, you will hear plenty of full auto gunfire at midnight.

Wait a minute, what am I saying. If you go to Detroit on New Years Eve, you will hear plenty of full auto gunfire at midnight.

I think I prefer shooting flower pots and 2 liters...

I have developed plans to maybe sell my pump action shotgun in favor of the .22 and possibly .30-30 and the reason for that is not only storage space but the barrel length; it´s way too long which makes it kind of bulky to handle. But I do like the pump action, so maybe I´ll trade the one I have for another with a shorter barrel.


Ugh. Decisions, decisions

Yeah, you have to either carry it in a long stemmed roses box or a violin case; or wear a long cape and carry it along your leg; which makes you walk stiffly - but then people remember you by the cape and can identify you later...

The longer rifles are for sniping your prey from a greater distance and cover; the shorter barrels mean you have to get closer in and be seen by the prey...er, flower pot. Animals pick up your scent the closer in you are. You can't bathe using soap beforehand; and have to cover yourself in the urine of a non-threatening animal to go unnoticed like deer or rabbit urine).

By the way: I don't hunt because I love animals too much; but even if I didn't - not bathing and covering myself in animal urine would have killed it for me,

Funny thing; my pump action shotgun has a way longer barrel than my "sniper" .30-06


I want a shorter barrel because they are easier to transport. Besides, a shotgun is supposed to spread the pellets and the shorter the barrel the better it spreads. The long barrel is better for slugs though, I imagine


And just for the record; I´ve hunted for many years and never have I needed to soak myself in urine...

AND - if you love fishing = can't wash your hands with soap before handling the fishing line or bait; or brush your teeth/chew gum/eat peanut butter/or smoke cigarettes before spitting on your bait. Eat a juicy cheeseburger and spit on that worm, it will draw every catfish for miles,









Deer can smell the human scent for miles, they won't come near your cover if they smell you. You want a ten point buck, have to cover yourself in female deer urine,

Or you can do what most hunters do and spray a decoy or a nearby tree. Spraying yourself directly can get you injured. There was a story warning people a few years back not to spray themselves directly. Apparently some guy sprayed himself down with synthetic doe urine and was attacked and killed by a buck who was unhappy to find a human man where he'd expected a doe.

The part about bathing without any soap and not applying deodorant is good advice though and is very important in order to stay undetected.

But not if you´re planning to go hunt watermelons and cat food tins

Urk! What a visual that story created; and yeah = a buck may look sweet and gentle; but they can be relentless in attacking once they start (like the Unicorn in Oblivion).










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We´re off tomorrow to look at the .22 automatic and possibly another gun. Might as well get two while I´m there Should the licenses get through, which I have no reason to believe they wouldn´t, I will also stock up on ammo and accessories I´ve been missing for far too long.


Not going to shorten the pump action shotgun, though. I´ve thought a bit more about it and decided against it. Really, the barrel isn´t any longer than on my other shotgun, it´s the exact same length. It´s just that the whole gun is longer.

So I filed up for a .22 magnum Remington 597 semi-auto and am currently waiting to get the approval. In the meantime I watch some hickok45 videos and came across a couple fun ones

Glocking and Balling

Shotgun snow removal

Finally got time to watch these! Boy is he ever good with that basketball! And ... I told you he probably lived on a compound; and he does!

I like how he "cleans his snow" off,

I may have to do the same when I have my targets up...

That was so funny when he did that,