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King Of Beasts |
Oct 1 2013, 07:41 PM
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QUOTE(Elisabeth Hollow @ Oct 1 2013, 12:49 PM) So, according to one guy at work, our president is going to shut down the internet.
The Internet.
The interneeeeeeeet.
Really?!?!
Wait, the Internet at your job, or just the Internet in general This post has been edited by King Of Beasts: Oct 1 2013, 07:43 PM
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Kiln |
Oct 1 2013, 09:30 PM
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Joined: 22-June 05
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The government has the ability to shut down our beloved interwebs any time they want. They won't do it because there would be far reaching implications.
The government shutdown was over the so called "Affordable Health Care Act". Democrats want it, Republicans don't. On my end the Affordable Care Act is already no good. There have been major changes to the way health care works that have caused layoffs in the health care industry. We've also begun to see premiums rise for insurance coverage.
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He who fights with monsters should be careful lest he thereby become a monster. And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will also gaze into thee. - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Kiln |
Oct 1 2013, 10:00 PM
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Joined: 22-June 05
From: Balmora, Eight Plates
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QUOTE(Elisabeth Hollow @ Oct 1 2013, 08:53 PM) Come next year, I won't be able to afford my own health care, and I'll be fined for it.
It's so much fun being poor. How do they think we're gonna be able to pay for [censored] if they keep raising cost of living, keeping our paygrade down, fining us for every tiny thing and making it impossible to ever drag ourselves out of debt?
Hey I hear ya Liz. I'm going to be in a similar boat I hold very little love for either party (elitist born rich politicians) but in the case of the Affordable Care Act, the blame has to go on the Dems that drafted it.
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He who fights with monsters should be careful lest he thereby become a monster. And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will also gaze into thee. - Friedrich Nietzsche
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mirocu |
Oct 2 2013, 08:32 AM
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Joined: 8-February 13
From: [CLASSIFIED]
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QUOTE(Elisabeth Hollow @ Oct 1 2013, 10:53 PM) Come next year, I won't be able to afford my own health care, and I'll be fined for it.
It's so much fun being poor. How do they think we're gonna be able to pay for [censored] if they keep raising cost of living, keeping our paygrade down, fining us for every tiny thing and making it impossible to ever drag ourselves out of debt?
Welcome to the world of democrazy. I mean, everyone say we live in one so I assume yall voted things to be this way. Right?
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Lol birdIt matters not how strait the gate, How charged with punishments the scroll, I am the master of my fate, I am the captain of my soul.
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Astien Roux |
Oct 2 2013, 06:49 PM
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The only shortcoming I perceive in the ACA; or Obamacare as it's known colloquially, is despite that we as Americans have no form of UHC, or Universal Health Care, we in fact pay more in taxes per capita towards health care to begin with then any other first world civilized nation.
This is because we don't embrace our true nature of capitalism, and force private providers to bid and offer their services at a lower set of premiums. Even Cuba does this, and they are staunchly "communist". Hence why you can purchase an inhaler for 75 cents that would cost you nearly two hundred in the States.
This is in fact a result of monopoly and...well,..corruption.
ACA is a step forward, however blind and baby in nature it is. Those who wish to extoll the virtues of a capitalist system and are so quick to point it out, overlook the fact that every first world nation in the world already has UHC, despite being capitalist. It does not override a simple fact that there is still room and a need for private providers, and moreso having a private provider allows for competition which would in fact keep prices down.
This can be seen in the rivalry between the United States Postal Service and United Parcel Service and Federal Express.
People who say that their tax dollars should not be used to care for those who don't have the sense or means to purchase their own insurance, are in fact professing their own ignorance.
They already do.
Emergency Rooms under a very strict set of Federal Laws cannot refuse care to those who seek it, and to help ensure the continuing function of these ER's they are provided a very generous stipend from the same Federal Government, as well as a high percentage of tax breaks at the end of the year for the hundreds of unpaid claims they rack up.
Further, the argument that says 'my tax dollars' should not go to Health Care, is much like saying that because people get into car accidents, my tax dollars shouldn't pave the roads.
At least in my view.
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Kiln |
Oct 2 2013, 08:46 PM
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Joined: 22-June 05
From: Balmora, Eight Plates
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This is all just another way for the Feds to step into the lives of individuals and tell them how to live.
Don't want health insurance? Too bad, get it or get fined. We are the government, we are here to help. We know what is best for you. Do not think. Obey.
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He who fights with monsters should be careful lest he thereby become a monster. And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will also gaze into thee. - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Astien Roux |
Oct 2 2013, 09:31 PM
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QUOTE(ImperialSnob @ Oct 2 2013, 09:07 PM) Why don't they just give free health care? Too much complexity within the 'system' and the entanglements of the United States of Corporatism. The Republicans who have 'shut down' the government have done the bidding of their lobbyists who pay them in the sum of millions via PAC's and likely other means. In turn, those lobbyists answer to the corporations that stand to lose hundreds of millions; if not billions, if the people have access to affordable health care. Using individual ambition to overcome what is common sense to benefit the people. This is a precise example of 'runaway capitalism' and the tactics of a Monopoly who senses competition. Whenever a situation seems needless or complex, you have but to ask yourself: "Who profits from this?" and then you will have your answer as to why it is.
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Astien Roux |
Oct 2 2013, 10:36 PM
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QUOTE(King Of Beasts @ Oct 2 2013, 10:18 PM) I don't even know what's going on, lol
Short version: 1% of your annual income fine if you don't get 'bamacare, and you are now responsible for 100% of your medical costs. Best to not carry personal identification around now....
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