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McBadgere
post Dec 8 2013, 01:15 PM
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Smaug the dragon in Hobbit II...Benedict Cumberbatch...Keep up dear boy...


Oh, the second of those abominations. I was rather hoping they'd simply give up after the first.


Woah now,Hobbit was pretty f'ing good.


Dear God...I agree with the boy... biggrin.gif ...

Thorny...They made 3 films...So there's still one more to suffer from in the next 12 months...I think it's the summer....
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post Dec 8 2013, 01:15 PM
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Psst,BBC Sherlock is no Elementry.

I mean Elementry has Lucy Liu AND Vinnie Jones(for a bit).

Benedict "Can only act as social awkward people" Cumberbatch ain't got nothing on Johhny Lee Miller's asshole Sherlock.



Yeah, but Lucy Liu is not Aunt Sally...And the BBC one has Steven Moffatt and Mark Gatiss which is a plus for any show...

Not for all the money in the world would I watch the US one...JohNNy Lee Miller has never appealed to me...And Lucy Liu only appealed in that one Ally McBeal episode... smile.gif ...


Yeah but Vinnie Jones.

Vinnie Jones

He was in Snatch!The greatest gangster movie of all time!
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post Dec 8 2013, 01:17 PM
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THEY“RE NOT SUBSTITUTES FOR THE REAL PHYSICAL BOXES!! panic.gif panic.gif


I mentioned my brother earlier yeah?...He buys original games...For various old consoles...NES being one of them...Then he "Archives" the cartridge and burns the boxes...

See why I swear?...

Although, he did sell his "Spare" HD tele to me for £30...*Shakes head*...Foolish boy...
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post Dec 8 2013, 01:18 PM
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I just use emulators.
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post Dec 8 2013, 01:19 PM
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QUOTE(ImperialSnob @ Dec 8 2013, 12:14 PM) *

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QUOTE(McBadgere @ Dec 8 2013, 12:06 PM) *

Smaug the dragon in Hobbit II...Benedict Cumberbatch...Keep up dear boy...


Oh, the second of those abominations. I was rather hoping they'd simply give up after the first.


Woah now,Hobbit was pretty f'ing good.


The Hobbit films are abominations.

You simply cannot make a trilogy of films out of a book that size. More than half of what's in those films is completely made up, not to mention farcical. Take Radagast for instance. The sum total of his inclusion in The Hobbit was an extremely minor reference in a conversation between Gandalf and Beorn. That's it, there's literally nothing else.

And those are the most elven looking dwarves I've ever seen.


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post Dec 8 2013, 01:19 PM
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QUOTE(ImperialSnob @ Dec 8 2013, 12:15 PM) *

Yeah but Vinnie Jones.

Vinnie Jones

He was in Snatch!The greatest gangster movie of all time!


Vinnie Jones is a top bloke, and I wish him all the best wishes and good luck with his illness...But no...
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post Dec 8 2013, 01:20 PM
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QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Dec 8 2013, 12:19 PM) *

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Smaug the dragon in Hobbit II...Benedict Cumberbatch...Keep up dear boy...


Oh, the second of those abominations. I was rather hoping they'd simply give up after the first.


Woah now,Hobbit was pretty f'ing good.


The Hobbit films are abominations.

You simply cannot make a trilogy of films out of a book that size. More than half of what's in those films is completely made up, not to mention farcical. Take Radagast for instance. The sum total of his inclusion in The Hobbit was an extremely minor reference in a conversation between Gandalf and Beorn. That's it, there's literally nothing else.

And those are the most elven looking dwarves I've ever seen.


Just take the movies and books as diffrent beasts.They obviously can't make 3 5 hour movies to fit EVERYTHING in!

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Yeah but Vinnie Jones.

Vinnie Jones

He was in Snatch!The greatest gangster movie of all time!


Vinnie Jones is a top bloke, and I wish him all the best wishes and good luck with his illness...But no...


Illness?
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post Dec 8 2013, 01:21 PM
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QUOTE(McBadgere @ Dec 8 2013, 01:17 PM) *

QUOTE(mirocu @ Dec 8 2013, 12:14 PM) *

THEY“RE NOT SUBSTITUTES FOR THE REAL PHYSICAL BOXES!! panic.gif panic.gif


I mentioned my brother earlier yeah?...He buys original games...For various old consoles...NES being one of them...Then he "Archives" the cartridge and burns the boxes...

See why I swear?...

HE FU**ING BURNS THEM!??? IS HE MENTAL OR JUST A COMPLETE A**HOLE!???

Doesn“t he know that those boxes are very valuable???

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post Dec 8 2013, 01:23 PM
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QUOTE(ImperialSnob @ Dec 8 2013, 12:20 PM) *

QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Dec 8 2013, 12:19 PM) *

QUOTE(ImperialSnob @ Dec 8 2013, 12:14 PM) *

QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Dec 8 2013, 12:11 PM) *

QUOTE(McBadgere @ Dec 8 2013, 12:06 PM) *

Smaug the dragon in Hobbit II...Benedict Cumberbatch...Keep up dear boy...


Oh, the second of those abominations. I was rather hoping they'd simply give up after the first.


Woah now,Hobbit was pretty f'ing good.


The Hobbit films are abominations.

You simply cannot make a trilogy of films out of a book that size. More than half of what's in those films is completely made up, not to mention farcical. Take Radagast for instance. The sum total of his inclusion in The Hobbit was an extremely minor reference in a conversation between Gandalf and Beorn. That's it, there's literally nothing else.

And those are the most elven looking dwarves I've ever seen.


Just take the movies and books as diffrent beasts.They obviously can't make 3 5 hour movies to fit EVERYTHING in!


No, I wont, and there's no reason why I should expect a film based on a book to have barely any resemblance to it, beyond the most basoc elements of the plot.

This trilogy is nothing more than an exercise in cash grabbing, and should never have been allowed. Whoever gave them permission to do so should be shot, repeatedly.


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post Dec 8 2013, 01:24 PM
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QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Dec 8 2013, 12:23 PM) *

QUOTE(ImperialSnob @ Dec 8 2013, 12:20 PM) *

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QUOTE(McBadgere @ Dec 8 2013, 12:06 PM) *

Smaug the dragon in Hobbit II...Benedict Cumberbatch...Keep up dear boy...


Oh, the second of those abominations. I was rather hoping they'd simply give up after the first.


Woah now,Hobbit was pretty f'ing good.


The Hobbit films are abominations.

You simply cannot make a trilogy of films out of a book that size. More than half of what's in those films is completely made up, not to mention farcical. Take Radagast for instance. The sum total of his inclusion in The Hobbit was an extremely minor reference in a conversation between Gandalf and Beorn. That's it, there's literally nothing else.

And those are the most elven looking dwarves I've ever seen.


Just take the movies and books as diffrent beasts.They obviously can't make 3 5 hour movies to fit EVERYTHING in!


No, I wont, and there's no reason why I should expect a film based on a book to have barely any resemblance to it, beyond the most basoc elements of the plot.

This trilogy is nothing more than an exercise in cash grabbing, and should never have been allowed. Whoever gave them permission to do so should be shot, repeatedly.


They're very much like the books,also I think you're a little passionate about this,almost TOO passionate.
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post Dec 8 2013, 01:25 PM
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QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Dec 8 2013, 12:19 PM) *


The Hobbit films are abominations.

You simply cannot make a trilogy of films out of a book that size. More than half of what's in those films is completely made up, not to mention farcical. Take Radagast for instance. The sum total of his inclusion in The Hobbit was an extremely minor reference in a conversation between Gandalf and Beorn. That's it, there's literally nothing else.

And those are the most elven looking dwarves I've ever seen.



Well, they did...

And so what if they did make stuff up?...It's good stuff!!...And Radagast was written especially for Sylvester "7th Doctor" McCoy, as Peter Jackson had loved him so much when he auditioned for - and only losing out to Ian Holm - the LOTR Bilbo...

And All the Istari make an appearance in several other places in the Lost Tales and all that stuff...So at least some of what they're putting in comes from somewhere else in the Tolkien-verse...

And Radagast was in the LOTR novels (I forget if it's FOTR or one of the others) briefly, so again, he's there...

I loved the first film...So much looking forward to these next two...
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post Dec 8 2013, 01:27 PM
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In other news,I'm desperatly awaiting an announcment on a PC port of GTA 5.
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post Dec 8 2013, 01:30 PM
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Impy - Vinnie Jones has cancer...Can't find the report now...But it's out there...

Mirocu - Both...He doesn't care and oh no!!...Don't do that...

Thorny-Boy...

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No, I wont, and there's no reason why I should expect a film based on a book to have barely any resemblance to it, beyond the most basoc elements of the plot.

This trilogy is nothing more than an exercise in cash grabbing, and should never have been allowed. Whoever gave them permission to do so should be shot, repeatedly.


They've made them...It's done...And some of us like them...Maybe it is cash-grabbing...They can have as much of mine as they'd like...And the first one got both my kids reading the novel and then the boy went on to start LOTR, at least...

The book is just that...How many other book to film adaptions are only barely the same?...

I'm a fan of the novels...I've read them many times...And much of the separate stuff...So I knows me stuff...I'm perfectly happy with the films...
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post Dec 8 2013, 01:32 PM
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Poor Vinnie sad.gif

I hope he get's better.
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post Dec 8 2013, 01:34 PM
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Soon off to the woods again to find a good Christmas tree. I love free stuff biggrin.gif

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post Dec 8 2013, 01:37 PM
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QUOTE(ImperialSnob @ Dec 8 2013, 12:24 PM) *

They're very much like the books,also I think you're a little passionate about this,almost TOO passionate.


For one, the Hobbit was a single book, shorter in itself than any of the volumes of Lord of the Rings.

And I am simply sick and tired of films supposedly based of books they bear only token resemblance to.

They could have made a single film out of The Hobbit, covered everything in the book, and I wouldn't object to it. But inventing a shitload of stuff to pad the story out to three films and then passing it off as the work of Tolkien is ridiculous.

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The Hobbit films are abominations.

You simply cannot make a trilogy of films out of a book that size. More than half of what's in those films is completely made up, not to mention farcical. Take Radagast for instance. The sum total of his inclusion in The Hobbit was an extremely minor reference in a conversation between Gandalf and Beorn. That's it, there's literally nothing else.

And those are the most elven looking dwarves I've ever seen.



Well, they did...

And so what if they did make stuff up?...It's good stuff!!...And Radagast was written especially for Sylvester "7th Doctor" McCoy, as Peter Jackson had loved him so much when he auditioned for - and only losing out to Ian Holm - the LOTR Bilbo...

And All the Istari make an appearance in several other places in the Lost Tales and all that stuff...So at least some of what they're putting in comes from somewhere else in the Tolkien-verse...

And Radagast was in the LOTR novels (I forget if it's FOTR or one of the others) briefly, so again, he's there...

I loved the first film...So much looking forward to these next two...


If they want to make stuff up, then they can make their own film, rather than sticking it somewhere it doesn't belong to pad out a story in order to milk a trilogy from it.

And for every bit they add from another Tlkien book, they add two like the part where Radagast helps them escape the goblins via a rabbit sled.

Radagast gets mentioned in the Lord of the Rings, but only in that Saruman used him as a messenger to lure Gandalf to Isengard, and again, that was only a short reference rather than him actually popping up.


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QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Dec 8 2013, 12:37 PM) *


For one, the Hobbit was a single book, shorter in itself than any of the volumes of Lord of the Rings.

And I am simply sick and tired of films supposedly based of books they bear only token resemblance to.

They could have made a single film out of The Hobbit, covered everything in the book, and I wouldn't object to it. But inventing a shitload of stuff to pad the story out to three films and then passing it off as the work of Tolkien is ridiculous.



They've never done that...Peter, his wife Fran and Philippa Boyens...They've been completely honest with what they've made up, what they've dragged from somewhere else or expanded...And they've never tried to pass anything that wasn't his off as Tolkien's...



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QUOTE(McBadgere @ Dec 8 2013, 12:43 PM) *

QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Dec 8 2013, 12:37 PM) *


For one, the Hobbit was a single book, shorter in itself than any of the volumes of Lord of the Rings.

And I am simply sick and tired of films supposedly based of books they bear only token resemblance to.

They could have made a single film out of The Hobbit, covered everything in the book, and I wouldn't object to it. But inventing a shitload of stuff to pad the story out to three films and then passing it off as the work of Tolkien is ridiculous.



They've never done that...Peter, his wife Fran and Philippa Boyens...They've been completely honest with what they've made up, what they've dragged from somewhere else or expanded...And they've never tried to pass anything that wasn't his off as Tolkien's...


Except that they're bundling them into a trilogy of films bearing the name The Hobbit.

Throwing in material that wasn't written by J.R.R. Tolkien into a film bearing the name of his book is in itself passing it off as his work.

Now if they'd called them a trilogy inspired by the Hobbit, that would be something else entirely. But it would also make the cash-grab even more obvious.


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Smaug the dragon in Hobbit II...Benedict Cumberbatch...Keep up dear boy...


Oh, the second of those abominations. I was rather hoping they'd simply give up after the first.

-Throws down gauntlets-

I'll be waiting on the hill at dawn.


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QUOTE(Rohirrim @ Dec 8 2013, 03:02 PM) *

QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Dec 8 2013, 07:11 AM) *

QUOTE(McBadgere @ Dec 8 2013, 12:06 PM) *

Smaug the dragon in Hobbit II...Benedict Cumberbatch...Keep up dear boy...


Oh, the second of those abominations. I was rather hoping they'd simply give up after the first.

-Throws down gauntlets-

I'll be waiting on the hill at dawn.


Another of you?!

Bah! Then I shall simply have to take you all on! viking.gif

And... Who's dawn are we talking about here? We've got like a five hour difference to work around tongue.gif

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