Oh, [censored]. That's horrible, dude!

ON the least worrisome list of things that happened yesterday, our dishwasher started leaking. On the most, it goes beyond theft into "I won't say what it is except in a PM."

You wanna talk about it?


I'm sorry to hear yesterday was so bad

The difference between you and me is that my perception remains unaltered....

You sure? You seem to go into a haze.

"I MUST HAVE THIS GAME I DON'T CARE IF I HAVE NO JOB THIS GAME IS MINE!"

Ha!

She's got you there 'Rocu.

I did it guys,sadly she said she didn't like me back(she put it much more kindly than that) and she said things won't be awkward between us.

We're still friends.

But the weird thing is,I'm not sad or angry about it all,I'm kinda happy that atleast I asked and got an answer.

Maybe it's because she was so nice about it and not awkward at all about it.

I feel a weight has been lifted off my shoulders,and I feel more confident.

Sorry to hear that Impy.

At least it didn't cost you a friend though, that would really suck. I'm betting that's as much because you didn't get angry or upset about it, that's the sort of thing that makes it awkward afterwards.

I regret not having even read the latter portion of the Coffee Shop. I would've been able to give you some pointers, but alas I am too late. There will be many opportunities with girls. Don't catch Oneitis.

She was your crush, correct? A friend? I'm going to assume you knew her for awhile, and even if you didn't, this still applies to your situation.

I don't know how old you are, but I regret not having the proper knowledge when dealing with creatures, eh, members, of the opposite sex. Thankfully, I've been put into what is commonly known as the
Friend Zone" three times. The third was random and expected, but I didn't care. Recently(as in two weeks ago) I put a girl who liked me into the FZ. But that's another story.

Let me ask you this: how was your relationship with this girl? How old is she?

The following questions is relating to your relationship prior to telling her that you like her.

1. Did you talk to her all the time?

2. Did you flirt with her? Touch her(not in any inappropriate way)to where you established a natural connection?

3. Did you, in any shape or form, decide to play it safe and not engage in anything that goes beyond the male-female friendship? This is important.

I will say a few things and it may sting or not, but its a lesson I wished I learned before I decided to shape up.

There are many factors to why you’re put in this situation, but the most common reason is that maybe you didn’t move fast enough when you first saw her: I'm not saying to grab her and demand that she follow you to the bedroom.

Telling her your intent when you first interact can determine whether you’re going to be a potential “friend” or "romantic” interest. An example of this can be as simple as telling her that she is cute, sexy, etc. She looks good in some clothes. Etc.

Also, another big reason you could be in this hell of a zone is because of societies’ brainwashed theory that you have to be “friends first” before you can start anything with the girl. This mentality is stupid and I must say, retarded.

There are a bunch of apes out there who think you must start the relationship before the relationship. As in, you have to first before becoming lovers. We have to understand that most girls hate this mentality because it does three of the following which may apply:

1. Girls don’t like guys who don’t know what they want. They like guys who are assertive, who lead, who are strong-willed. So, confessing to her is essentially showing that you’re flip-flopper. And, being indecisive isn’t an attractive trait.

2. She can see it as a betrayal of friendship when a guy finally confesses to a girl friend that he “likes her.” Do you know how many times it's been said “You just wanted to be my friend so you could get into my pants?” She trusted you, she confided in you, she invested so much of her time to help you as a friend, and your confession means she wasted portions of her life she’ll never be able to take back. Why? because you’re essentially telling her that you’re a liar and a scammer. Ouch.

3. You’re perceived as weak because you don’t have the confidence to pick up other girls. She’ll see your confession, that you like her, as a last desperation of hope that you want a girl in your life. And, as points #1 and #2 tell you, girls don’t like desperate and needy guys.

4. She has absolutely no attraction to you whatsoever and does consider you as a friend, and nothing more due to the lack of seduction/attraction and all that relates to these qualities.

Does this mean you can’t have girl friends?

Not at all. There are many girls who guys(including myself) consider to be real good friends. But, I'm not the type of guy who actively hang out or interact with them on a daily basis. A casual lunch, call, party invite, or hang out once in a while is fine. But, doing things as though you’re in a relationship: weekly movies, daily dinners, lunches, phone conversations… is time that should be spent on other girls. If you don't see the girl as girlfriend material, then there is no problem to do any of these things. Any guy doing everything I just mentioned and not getting anything he wants out of it, is a doomed chump lest he finds a way out.

Also, having girl friends can sometimes help you when it comes to being a wingirl. In other words, your girl friend can help you get together with other girls (her friends, introducing you to random girls at the club). Just don’t rely on this too much.

So, with all this in mind, my Imperial Snobbish friend, you might be wondering how you can change this?

How to Turn a Friend into a Lover! A Darkness Eternal Special!

You have tell her what you want. However, it comes with a few things in mind:

1. You have to show her portions of you she hasn’t seen before. No, I'm not saying exposing yourself (just yet). I’m talking about showing the personality and life changes you’ve made recently. An example would be showing her that you’re more confident and assertive (after the conversation you two had). Or, a new wardrobe; just make sure to show her something you haven’t shown, of yourself, to her yet.

Right now the current traits she sees in you equates as friend traits. Showing her something different can make her believe that these new traits are lover traits. Again, this stems from learning a new skill (like guitar) to showing her your long lost brother that you found a few days ago.

SHOW HER SOMETHING DIFFERENT ABOUT YOURSELF.

2. You have to come into the mindset that she’s either a Lover or Nothing More. I repeat, LOVER or NOTHING MORE. Listen, you confessed you liked her because you just don’t want to be her friend, so if she rejects you, why continue to be her friend? You’ll just be lying to her and yourself that you’re okay with the current terms of your relationship. However, if you do become lovers and it doesn’t work out, there is a greater chance that you can stay ‘just friends.’

This is one of the hardest points to internalize. Many men don’t have the stones to walk away from the friendship after their girl friend rejects their proposal to become something more. This option can be scary but your time on earth is limited – you have to take the chance to walk away if she says no.

3. Once you have points #1 and #2 engrained in your system, you have to now find the time to tell her how you feel. You don’t have to dress up in a bow tie or go on some special date (this isn’t a friggin' reality show). All you have to do is find time alone where you can tell or show her your intent.

Examples:

“I don’t want to be your friend because I want something more. Why? Cause I think you’re sexy, I like the way you talk about monkeys, I like how you bite your toenails… I want to take you out on a real date where there is a chance we’ll have something more.'

Basically, you have to make an emphasis on the flirtatious part. Isn’t this is why you wanted to be more than just friends? You already know her, you already like her, so it’s now about developing the flirtatious and the "S" word(goodness, the mods laws on this forum is killing me) side of things. I can’t hold your hand and place it on her face, then grab your lips with her lips and smash them together… I’m not Master of the Universe, I can’t move you like a puppet.

It’s up to you to make it happen.

Keep these words written into the tablet of your heart! You'll feel like a winner!

This post has been edited by Darkness Eternal: Jan 10 2014, 05:27 PM

I'm fine with being friends with her though.

Wow. Just poured entire paragraphs of gold to get a one sentence response. Ah, kids these days . . . well, I suppose spamming around is better in this thread.

Back to SimplePickup forums for me!

This post has been edited by Darkness Eternal: Jan 10 2014, 05:31 PM

Don't worry, I took notes!

Thank you, sir! If you need any assistance concerning the subject of attraction, I'm happy to help. Whether you want to improve your social skills, find a lover or even go onto declare war on women, I'm your guy.

I can't change the fact she just wants to be friends,that's her decision and I respect that decision.

I'm only 13,I've got a long road ahead of me that'll(hopefully )include other girls.

Thank you! Might not need the advice for a bit though, first I have to acquire a target

Targets, my good friend. Why put all your eggs in one basket? Why not invest in more than one?

DE, I'm gonna respond to your wonderful post when I get home.

D'aaawwww That's far better than how I deal with rejection.

Sorry to hear it didn't work out the way you hoped it would


At least you're still friends, and it's nice to hear you're glad you at least have an answer

I got owned again!??

Oh yeah, that reminds me. Got another game just now A game I already have but this one comes with the box and manual. Can easily sell the excess game later!

This post has been edited by mirocu: Jan 10 2014, 09:42 PM