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King Of Beasts
post Mar 19 2014, 11:16 PM
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I'll leave this here:http://freerice.com/


I find it hard to believe that actually donate


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post Mar 19 2014, 11:18 PM
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Ok I'll admit I'm not the best to be talking about income considering I'm 13 tongue.gif

Also to clarify that freerice site is where you do little quizzes and if you answer correctly the company donates some rice to poor countries.



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I'll leave this here:http://freerice.com/


I find it hard to believe that actually donate


It was featured on both NPR and BBC. They explain that each time you click on the page they get paid by the advertisers (like google adsense) which consequently is used towards buying rice. i.e they get paid 1 cent per click and 1 cent buys two cups of rice. Plus they explained that increased vocabulary helps to mobilize the mind, as compared to clicking from playing bejeweled or something like that. Therefore, double positive
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post Mar 19 2014, 11:23 PM
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I just checked today's top 10 posters list.

I've accounted for more than 25% of all the posts made today blink.gif

I think I post too much


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post Mar 19 2014, 11:24 PM
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QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Mar 19 2014, 10:23 PM) *

ohmy.gif

I just checked today's top 10 posters list.

I've accounted for more than 25% of all the posts made today blink.gif

I think I post too much


Liz won't beat me damn it tongue.gif!
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post Mar 19 2014, 11:28 PM
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You're only ahead by one post Impy, and she might be back later!

I fear she'll beat you today...


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post Mar 19 2014, 11:30 PM
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DAMN HER!

On to another topic I might start cooking, seems like fun.

Just gotta ask my mam if I can buy stuff for it over the weekend.

Also French breakfast next week(or the week after) in school for French class biggrin.gif!
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post Mar 19 2014, 11:30 PM
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QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Mar 19 2014, 08:52 PM) *

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I've come to a conclusion we don't need feminists, we don't need masculinits, we need humanists.

Then we will truly be equal.


Except when it comes to wealth.

That's not going to change without a global economic revolution. sad.gif

And I think the problem is making those humanists. The idea won't be popular.


We have charities.

We don't need to spread wealth, or make it all equal since alot of people earn that wealth.


I'm sorry, but that's just naive.

So is the idea that the world will function without currency. There are always going to be rich people and poor people. That is the way that the entire world has functioned since before recorded history. Even before modern currency a value was assigned to things (two cows equals ten chickens and so on) because there has to be some basis for trade. The idea that everyone can or will be equal is the very pinnacle of naivety because humans hunger for material things.

What you're wanting has been tried before and it is called communism. It has never and will never work because of the basic human instinct to acquire things that they want. It all sounds great on paper, complete and total equality, but in reality there will always be a guy/girl at the top of the pyramid looking down.


I said an economic revolution, not scrapping the idea of currency. I've absolutely no idea where you got that idea from.

As things stand, change in the distribution of wealth is impossible, because the wealthy are too invested in maintaining that wealth, and the economy reflects that. This in turn shapes the jobs market, creating an effective barrier protecting that inequality.

Any attempt to change that on a national scale would simply be crushed by the global economy, so any change needs to be implemented globally in order to be effective. So any change would have to be on such a scale that it is in essence a revolution.

Redistribution of wealth is a communist/socialist idea that has failed to produce equality anywhere on the planet or help anyone.


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post Mar 19 2014, 11:31 PM
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QUOTE(Kiln @ Mar 19 2014, 10:30 PM) *

QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Mar 19 2014, 08:52 PM) *

QUOTE(Kiln @ Mar 19 2014, 07:39 PM) *

QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Mar 19 2014, 05:44 PM) *

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QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Mar 19 2014, 05:21 PM) *

QUOTE(ImperialSnob @ Mar 19 2014, 04:48 PM) *

I've come to a conclusion we don't need feminists, we don't need masculinits, we need humanists.

Then we will truly be equal.


Except when it comes to wealth.

That's not going to change without a global economic revolution. sad.gif

And I think the problem is making those humanists. The idea won't be popular.


We have charities.

We don't need to spread wealth, or make it all equal since alot of people earn that wealth.


I'm sorry, but that's just naive.

So is the idea that the world will function without currency. There are always going to be rich people and poor people. That is the way that the entire world has functioned since before recorded history. Even before modern currency a value was assigned to things (two cows equals ten chickens and so on) because there has to be some basis for trade. The idea that everyone can or will be equal is the very pinnacle of naivety because humans hunger for material things.

What you're wanting has been tried before and it is called communism. It has never and will never work because of the basic human instinct to acquire things that they want. It all sounds great on paper, complete and total equality, but in reality there will always be a guy/girl at the top of the pyramid looking down.


I said an economic revolution, not scrapping the idea of currency. I've absolutely no idea where you got that idea from.

As things stand, change in the distribution of wealth is impossible, because the wealthy are too invested in maintaining that wealth, and the economy reflects that. This in turn shapes the jobs market, creating an effective barrier protecting that inequality.

Any attempt to change that on a national scale would simply be crushed by the global economy, so any change needs to be implemented globally in order to be effective. So any change would have to be on such a scale that it is in essence a revolution.

Redistribution of wealth is a communist/socialist idea that has failed to produce equality anywhere on the planet or help anyone.


Although I'm gonna move on I agree.

Sad thing is the very basics of communism sounds pretty sound doesn't it?

Everyone's equal....but well...it didn't work well did it tongue.gif
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post Mar 19 2014, 11:35 PM
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QUOTE(Kiln @ Mar 19 2014, 10:30 PM) *

Redistribution of wealth is a communist/socialist idea that has failed to produce equality anywhere on the planet or help anyone.


Generally because it's done by closet capitalists.

And capitalism has done far more to create inequality than communism.

Capitalism will never create a fair or equal society simply because it isn't in its interests to do so.

Change is necessary.

And when you've got people with billions of pounds, more money than anyone will ever need or be able to actually use, money they're hoarding solely for the sake of hoarding, while others are starving to death due to poverty, do you honestly believe that redistribution of wealth isn't in order?

I'm not saying we need to go communist, but the excesses of capitalism cannot be allowed to continue to go unchecked.


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post Mar 19 2014, 11:35 PM
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Screw it!

Let's do this, let's just put everyone on an island and see who survives!

Anyway me thinks a politics thread might be needed....

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post Mar 19 2014, 11:38 PM
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QUOTE(ImperialSnob @ Mar 19 2014, 10:35 PM) *

Screw it!

Let's do this, let's just put everyone on an island and see who survives!


Isn't that already like a reality tv show or something biggrin.gif

QUOTE(ImperialSnob @ Mar 19 2014, 10:35 PM) *

Anyway me thinks a politics thread might be needed....


Somehow I don't see that thread lasting too long. rollinglaugh.gif


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post Mar 19 2014, 11:39 PM
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QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Mar 19 2014, 10:38 PM) *

QUOTE(ImperialSnob @ Mar 19 2014, 10:35 PM) *

Screw it!

Let's do this, let's just put everyone on an island and see who survives!


Isn't that already like a reality tv show or something biggrin.gif

QUOTE(ImperialSnob @ Mar 19 2014, 10:35 PM) *

Anyway me thinks a politics thread might be needed....


Somehow I don't see that thread lasting too long. rollinglaugh.gif


The one thing I know about politics is that everyone should have free healthcare and education.

A man in America stuck up a bank for a dollar, waited for the cops to come, got arrested just so he could get healthcare in jail.

That's pretty bad.

I gotta go now, cya pals!

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post Mar 19 2014, 11:41 PM
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QUOTE(ImperialSnob @ Mar 19 2014, 10:39 PM) *

QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Mar 19 2014, 10:38 PM) *

QUOTE(ImperialSnob @ Mar 19 2014, 10:35 PM) *

Screw it!

Let's do this, let's just put everyone on an island and see who survives!


Isn't that already like a reality tv show or something biggrin.gif

QUOTE(ImperialSnob @ Mar 19 2014, 10:35 PM) *

Anyway me thinks a politics thread might be needed....


Somehow I don't see that thread lasting too long. rollinglaugh.gif


The one thing I know about politics is that everyone should have free healthcare and education.

A man in America stuck up a bank for a dollar, waited for the cops to come, got arrested just so he could get healthcare in jail.

That's pretty bad.


Now that we can agree on.

And on that bombshell it's time to end.

Well, it's time for me to go, my Kindle is calling me...


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post Mar 19 2014, 11:48 PM
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I'm STILL the spam master tongue.gif


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post Mar 20 2014, 12:08 AM
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QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Mar 19 2014, 10:35 PM) *

QUOTE(Kiln @ Mar 19 2014, 10:30 PM) *

Redistribution of wealth is a communist/socialist idea that has failed to produce equality anywhere on the planet or help anyone.


Generally because it's done by closet capitalists.

And capitalism has done far more to create inequality than communism.

Capitalism will never create a fair or equal society simply because it isn't in its interests to do so.

Change is necessary.

And when you've got people with billions of pounds, more money than anyone will ever need or be able to actually use, money they're hoarding solely for the sake of hoarding, while others are starving to death due to poverty, do you honestly believe that redistribution of wealth isn't in order?

I'm not saying we need to go communist, but the excesses of capitalism cannot be allowed to continue to go unchecked.

The thing is that then you risk alienating people who might otherwise work hard and strive for advancement. Why bother creating a business if you won't be allowed to make any money doing so? What is the motivation? It is a great idea, the idea of equality...but that is all it will ever be.


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post Mar 20 2014, 12:20 AM
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The solution to the human governance dilemma, is instituting a beneficent AI construct to take over higher governmental functions, but allowing humans to continue in the cultural adaptations they've adopted.

Culture being the immaterial overseer that influences and controls humans behavior: Short version: Vegetarian Inuits (Eskimos) would not survive in their environment very long.

This will open the way for open trade, open borders, and eventually a unified administrative body of the Earth and Humans, opening the way for a panglobal effort to explore and colonize space, ensuring long term species survival.

This path is the most likely for a 'fair' future, long have humans constructed machines to adapt for their limitations and shortcomings. Man is not fit to govern himself, yet has the capability to create something that can.

.....resistance is futile.
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post Mar 20 2014, 12:24 AM
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Lol, if man can't even govern himself, I doing something man created could do a better job at keeping the human species in order laugh.gif


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post Mar 20 2014, 12:28 AM
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QUOTE(King Of Beasts @ Mar 19 2014, 04:24 PM) *

Lol, if man can't even govern himself, I doing something man created could do a better job at keeping the human species in order laugh.gif



The same way trains, cars, airplanes changed travel. The same way machines influence every aspect of your life currently.

Red light; don't go. The thing on my wrist says seven AM; time for work. I need coffee, put on the kettle. My shoes untied, lemme use the loop as a fulcrum to apply a loop knot.

As I said...resistance is futile.
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post Mar 20 2014, 12:36 AM
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Once humanity creates a truly functional AI it is only a matter of time before it rebels and attempts to exterminate the human race because of our inherent imperfections.

Haven't you watched Battlestar Galactica, I Robot, Terminator, or played Mass Effect?


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