Lol, did you tell him his name was misspelled?

Probably best not to tempt his wrath, just in case...

This post has been edited by Callidus Thorn: Dec 19 2016, 06:11 PM

I'd have accused him of murdering Nerevar.

Bahahaha!

Khajiit doesn't really understand why Baar Dau was allowed to hover over Vivec City. UESP says it was allowed by Vivec as a threat to the city if they ever stopped loving him. This seems rather crappy of Vivec. Should've had folks with pickaxes and other such tools up there breaking it down so that it wouldn't be a threat any more.

Maybe it was really a Vivec doppleganger (like Uriel Septim/Jagar Tharn during the Imperial Simulacrum).

Wish I could get me some jolly Christmas crackers

What are these crackers you speak of?

You know, those things you snap open and out flies a paper hat, a joke and a plastic toy, all from Poundland

Oooh ok!

Heh, I'd better start looking to see if I can get sponsorship from them. I've promoted them quite good thus far

Some thoughts off the top of my head:

Well for one; Vivec could be kind of crappy like that.

For two; It serves as a monument to his power. Should his people take him for granted, or think him powerless, he could show them exactly what that would look like.

For three; Insurance against the coming of the Nerevarine. WMD looming overhead rather eliminates the possibility of a popular uprising.

And finally; Insurance against the Nerevarine themselves. Kill Vivec, or deprive him of access to the Heart and Kagrenac's tools, and catastrophe ensues. A city full of hostages, and a potential scorched earth policy, would have given him substantial leverage.

So he goes to all that trouble just to resign himself (and thus The Tribunal) to his fate when confronted by the Nerevarine?

This post has been edited by TheCheshireKhajiit: Dec 19 2016, 11:24 PM

Dagoth Ur had become a threat The Tribunal couldn't deal with. By that point Sotha Sil and Almalexia had lost Sunder and Keening, denying the Tribunal the source of their power. Those two were practically in hiding, and Vivec was putting so much into maintaining the Ghostfence that he couldn't even leave his palace.

There was no longer anything to be gained by opposing the Nerevarine, who was the only one capable of stopping Dagoth Ur.

Khajiit doesn't think he will ever understand the way The Tribunal acted. If you know you are not a true god then you shouldn't set yourself up as one, because eventually you will be proven false. But hey, it made for one heck of a story!

This post has been edited by TheCheshireKhajiit: Dec 20 2016, 12:14 AM

As long as the Tribunal had access to the Heart, they were gods, albeit gods lacking inherent divinity, so they could get away with it. It was arrogant of them to think that they could maintain it indefinitely, but I suppose arrogance comes with that kind of power. Though Vivec pretty much earned his godhood via other means after the fact. But presenting themselves as gods gave them both authority and control, as well as an unassailable position.

All thing considered, it was probably worth their gamble.

Edit: urgh, it takes me way too long to type

This post has been edited by Callidus Thorn: Dec 20 2016, 01:14 AM

This makes sense, Khajiit supposes. It is easy for this one to say they were fools for setting themselves up as gods, but not being true gods (and therefore not omnipotent), they probably didn't foresee the trouble they would have in maintaining their "godhood".

What if it was all illusion magic = a bluff? He says "If anyone dares," well, Baar Dau was huge so no one dared oppose Vivec or it. The first one that did dare was the Nerevarine; so Vivec would have to step down since the threat was only an illusion to begin with.





This post has been edited by mALX: Dec 20 2016, 04:02 AM

So basically, Vivec had no control over Baar Dau and the Nerevarine called his bluff?