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ghastley |
Apr 26 2025, 07:12 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ6pjQ_zgig compares the original and remastered NPCs, and I found myself preferring the old ones in a lot of cases. It took me some time to notice that it was the lip-sync that got ruined in the remake. All the original mouths work much better. The new ones look like someone is pulling the corners up with fish hooks. Most of the rest of the face is fine, but mouths are just wrong.
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Renee |
Apr 26 2025, 07:43 PM
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The new Emperor does look sort of strange. Not bad in my opinion. New Baurus looks hawt!  I want to see that helmet off as well... New Jauffre for me.  Although now I see what you're saying about the mouth synching. It's a little off. But I like the new Jauffre better. The coloring of his face (slight blush on cheeks for instance) and his eyes are more pleasant, imo. Alright one more. Wow, Brother Martin looks awesome.  He looks like a friend of mine from the old days, holy [censored].
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Lena Wolf |
Apr 26 2025, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE(ghastley @ Apr 26 2025, 07:12 PM)  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ6pjQ_zgig compares the original and remastered NPCs, and I found myself preferring the old ones in a lot of cases. It took me some time to notice that it was the lip-sync that got ruined in the remake. All the original mouths work much better. The new ones look like someone is pulling the corners up with fish hooks. Most of the rest of the face is fine, but mouths are just wrong. Wait, Male Imperials are no longer spoken by Wes Johnson.  That's the end of Oblivion, I think. Also, I agree that the faces are generally not an improvement. The old potato heads looked like real people, but these new ones are just weird cartoons. Oh, Argonians are nice though.  But why did Borba in Cheydinhal go all grey? Is that because of how everyone looks? 
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TheCheshireKhajiit |
Apr 26 2025, 10:02 PM
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QUOTE(Lena Wolf @ Apr 26 2025, 03:56 PM)  QUOTE(ghastley @ Apr 26 2025, 07:12 PM)  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ6pjQ_zgig compares the original and remastered NPCs, and I found myself preferring the old ones in a lot of cases. It took me some time to notice that it was the lip-sync that got ruined in the remake. All the original mouths work much better. The new ones look like someone is pulling the corners up with fish hooks. Most of the rest of the face is fine, but mouths are just wrong. Wait, Male Imperials are no longer spoken by Wes Johnson.  That's the end of Oblivion, I think. There are still Imperials voiced by Wes Johnson. They added a new voice to give a little variety, but Wes’s voice is still in use. In general I find the added voices a very welcome addition to the game. Can anybody who has spent any amount of time in Skingrad in the remaster tell me if Shum gro Yarug still falls to his death from Castle Skingrad’s bridge? That pisses me off when that happens in Oldblivion. This post has been edited by TheCheshireKhajiit: Apr 26 2025, 10:05 PM
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Lena Wolf |
Apr 26 2025, 10:18 PM
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QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Apr 26 2025, 10:02 PM)  There are still Imperials voiced by Wes Johnson. They added a new voice to give a little variety, but Wes’s voice is still in use. In general I find the added voices a very welcome addition to the game.
So, they have more than one voice per race, then? Or is it just for the Imperials? More voices is good of course, I'm just curious how they've done it.
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Elisabeth Hollow |
Apr 27 2025, 02:35 AM
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QUOTE(Renee @ Apr 26 2025, 01:43 PM)  The new Emperor does look sort of strange. Not bad in my opinion. New Baurus looks hawt!  I want to see that helmet off as well... New Jauffre for me.  Although now I see what you're saying about the mouth synching. It's a little off. But I like the new Jauffre better. The coloring of his face (slight blush on cheeks for instance) and his eyes are more pleasant, imo. Alright one more. Wow, Brother Martin looks awesome.  He looks like a friend of mine from the old days, holy [censored]. When I saw Baurus, my exact words were "... I have a fanfic to write." My bestie burst out laughing.
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macole |
Apr 27 2025, 06:14 AM
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QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Apr 26 2025, 03:16 PM)  I noticed yesterday or the day before that my shortsword had a weird shadow coming from it which was most noticeable when holding the weapon and looking at a body of water. Today I discovered that turning off Screen Space Reflections (or SSR) eliminated this.
Is that an example of the 'ghosting' I've seen discussed in a Reddit thread? QUOTE(Renee @ Apr 26 2025, 01:43 PM)  New Baurus looks hawt!  I want to see that helmet off as well... Doesn't do anything for me. ACK! What did they do to my lovely Jeanne Frasoric. She's now got a pinched face with squinty eyes. This post has been edited by macole: Apr 27 2025, 06:25 AM
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TheCheshireKhajiit |
Apr 27 2025, 04:53 PM
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QUOTE(macole @ Apr 27 2025, 12:14 AM)  QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Apr 26 2025, 03:16 PM)  I noticed yesterday or the day before that my shortsword had a weird shadow coming from it which was most noticeable when holding the weapon and looking at a body of water. Today I discovered that turning off Screen Space Reflections (or SSR) eliminated this.
Is that an example of the 'ghosting' I've seen discussed in a Reddit thread? Could be. Not sure as I haven’t read up on it. The effects were kinda “ghostly”, like, even your character’s head would cause blurry shadows if you moved the third person camera around too fast. This post has been edited by TheCheshireKhajiit: Apr 27 2025, 04:54 PM
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TheCheshireKhajiit |
Apr 27 2025, 11:05 PM
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QUOTE(SubRosa @ Apr 27 2025, 04:56 PM)  What is the character creation like?
Does it still use the same system of making faces as the original Oblivion, with all the sliders? Or does it use something more like Skyrim or Fallout 4?
What is the new leveling system like? For that matter, does it still have Major Skills, and Minor Skills?
The character creator works almost exactly like it did in Oldblivion. They cut out the weird skin tone sliders (except for cheek and cheekbone flush, and the general skin tone that your character is, light to dark). Hair is a little different and there isn’t rgb values any more. You pick options from a palette, but there are plenty of options. They added lipstick and eyeshadow options that are also presented as options in a palette. Tons of eye color options too. Leveling system works almost exactly like it does in Oldblivion. Instead of the weird attribute distribution it gives you a number of points to spend. I actually haven’t played enough of it to see how this interacts with enemies leveling with you. You pick major skills with your class, as in Oldblivion. This post has been edited by TheCheshireKhajiit: Apr 27 2025, 11:08 PM
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Acadian |
Apr 27 2025, 11:15 PM
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Don't have it (yet) but have been watching and studying. UESP wiki has a section on it here: https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Oblivion_RemasteredThey discuss differences between remastered and original. For leveling, it seems you level on major skills but a change is that minor skills also level you but at a slower rate. I have seen some drop dead gorgeous screenshots of player characters for what it's worth. Google says remastered does not feature any fix for the A-bomb so expect to need a utility to fix that periodically. Nexus already has tons of mods out for remastered and that is encouraging. That said, I'd wait and let things sort out as far as how to best install them and let the modding community sort and smooth things out. It seems the command console works pretty much as in the original (yay!) but some commands won't work with the new engine and remastered introduces some additional commands. I checked the recommended specs for the game and my puter seems to pass muster. Will continue to watch and see while the game and modders hopefully continue to develop things.
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TheCheshireKhajiit |
Apr 27 2025, 11:36 PM
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QUOTE(Acadian @ Apr 27 2025, 05:15 PM)  Don't have it (yet) but have been watching and studying. UESP wiki has a section on it here: https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Oblivion_RemasteredThey discuss differences between remastered and original. For leveling, it seems you level on major skills but a change is that minor skills also level you but at a slower rate. I have seen some drop dead gorgeous screenshots of player characters for what it's worth. Google says remastered does not feature any fix for the A-bomb so expect to need a utility to fix that periodically. Nexus already has tons of mods out for remastered and that is encouraging. That said, I'd wait and let things sort out as far as how to best install them and let the modding community sort and smooth things out. It seems the command console works pretty much as in the original (yay!) but some commands won't work with the new engine and remastered introduces some additional commands. I checked the recommended specs for the game and my puter seems to pass muster. Will continue to watch and see while the game and modders hopefully continue to develop things. Oh I didn’t know that about the minor skills.
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