Stormcloak Or Imperial, Which side are you on? Options

[King Of Beasts]

Welcome! Which side are you on? Are you a strong, patriotic Stormcloak? Or are you a loyal, sophisticated Imperial? What about a powerful Thalmor Mage? Do you believe Ulfric Stormcloak truly cares about the good people of Skyrim, and agree that the Empire has turned it's back on Skyrim and Talos, or do you believe that the Stormcloaks are just a bunch of rebels, under a false leader who cares about nobody but himself? Perhaps you're a Thalmor agent who's just going to sit back and enjoy the show?

Please no arguing, insulting, flaming, etc, etc. Debates are welcome as long as they don't get out of hand. In this thread you can pick what side you chose and explain why.

Thank You,
-KoB

I chose the Stormcloaks. Honestly, the empire turned their backs on all of Tamriel, and abandoning Talos made everything worse. I think Titus Mede is a complete coward. I don't think Uriel Septim would have surrendered to the Thalmor even if he was at the wrong end of a Thalmor blade. He'd want the empire to keep fighting.

Truthfully, I think Ulfric Stormcloak is a racist, self centered [censored], but he does have a good cause.

This post has been edited by King Of Beasts: Jan 12 2013, 03:56 AM

[Saquira]

I have to vote independent, but still against the Thalmor, because I both like and dislike all sides, and that's what Ekali is going to be as far as it's possible. I'd have voted for the Stormcloaks a year ago, but a lot have changed since then.

I've got several characters who're involved with the whole war against the Thalmor and between the Empire and Stormcloaks, and the only ones who've actually taken a side are actually helping or used to help the Thalmor. Though that's just because the Thalmor are paying them a lot. Those two are Caoilinn and Dar'Ilthi. Caoilinn might show up in my fanfics eventually, Dar'Ilthi will play a rather big role.

On to my reasoning, the people who lead the Imperial's and Stormcloak's are both a bunch of idiots for the most part. Perhaps not the Imperials, as they're simply trying to put down the uprising. But they're still Thalmor pawns, and as such do not have my respect. Ulfric's a racist and generally very impolite, which I see very well since I rarely play humans. Helping either side would just mean that I help the Thalmor, as I by doing so kill a lot of people and decrease the amount of soldiers that could be used to fight the Thalmor. Not doing anything would also help the Thalmor, because that'd just mean that the civil war goes on and on and they stay occupied with each other while the elves get to do what they want. So I'm trying to figure out a way to end the civil war and unite everyone against the Thalmor, without picking either side.

In my version of the Elder Scrolls universe the ideal for me would be to first kill of Dar'Ilthi, though I'm not going to because she's way too good for the plot, and then somehow manage to unite the Stormcloaks and the Empire. Neither of them are strong enough to take on the Thalmor on their own, especially not after a civil war, and I doubt many would object to my saying that the Thalmor are the real threat. Even the Thalmor has to agree with that, because they're really smart, and not afraid to play dirty. That's also why I like the Thalmor, because they're so very good at manipulating their subjects. And now I got a really good idea for how Ekali can stay independent and still affect the outcome of the war...
Well, I don't think only the Empire and the Stormcloaks would cut it however, so even better would be to send coded messages(or something else that's secure) to other provinces and organize a simultaneous uprising in all of Tamriel. I doubt anyone likes to be bossed over by the Thalmor, so you'd just have to be good enough at convincing them that it could work or give them someone who they'd be willing to follow. But now I'm getting off track.

My point is that I'm against the Thalmor, but I'm not going to help the Empire or the Stormcloaks if all they do is fight internally. Ekali hates the civil war, and wants it to end, but she has no idea of which side she should help win. Dar'Ilthi is scary, and I don't really know what she's thinking helping the Thalmor, but I'm pretty certain that she's a sadist and a psychopath. Sorcalin prefers just to stay out of it and run his own business, though he doesn't like the Thalmor since he at least used to be one of the Psijic. Shakh is undecided. Felisa wants to live her own life in peace, and has changed her name so that people won't be able to track her down. And Caoilinn, she helped the Thalmor take Valenwood and doesn't really care who runs the different provinces as long as she gets paid.

[King Coin]

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I like your thinking. I still voted Imperial because I do believe that there will be another war with the Thalmor. They are rebuilding and rearming and need to get the other provinces behind them. I'm sure the Thalmor know this as well, hence the Stormcloak rebellion.