Rate your fanfic villain's evilness!, On a scale of 1-10, how evil is your villain? Options

[King Of Beasts]

I thought this would be a fun thread so....

If you could rate a villain in your fanfic(if you've written one) it doesn't have to be the main villain, on a scale of 1-10, how evil is he/she?

If you want to, explain why you gave the villain the rating you gave him/her. I guess it's fine if you want to rate a villain from someone else's fanfic.

Anyway.....

I'd rate the main antagonist of my story, (his name is Vokun for those of you that haven't read my story) about a 7.5 on the evilness scale. I'm not putting up any spoilers, but I'll say he has a somewhat reasonable motive behind his actions....

The secondary antagonist(Rex) in my story, I'd rate him a 10. Yes, he's downright evil for no good reason.

[SubRosa]

In the game itself (and he does show up in my story soon, just haven't reached that part yet) - I'd have to say Mankar Camoran above the Mythic Dawn. The Mythic Dawn themselves have been duped by Camoran. He is like a combination of Jim Jones and Manson.

When he is in Cyrodiil speaking he is so charismatic, and you can see all the followers being taken in by him and forking over all their worldly goods. They believe Paradise awaits them through that portal, and it isn't till they cross over they see the real man, the real Mankar and that his promises were all lies. By then there is no escape, not even death because he keeps resurrecting them.

He made a pact with Dagon for that Paradise, for the power he craved - may not have been the brightest move, but took a lot of guts to form an alliance with one who is known to always have his own agenda.

I think Bethesda showed some real genius in Camoran's storyline.

It means a tremendous lot to me that you all said such wonderful things about Malan on here! Thank you all so much!

I really hoped Malan would come across as deceptively likable, and that the only ones to ever see his evil side were those on the receiving end of it.


On other threads bad guys - I gotta say SubRosa's "Vols" - he was smacking Teresa around and breaking her teeth as a child, demonized in her mind - so you hate him. Then when she runs into him again as an adult, suddenly you see the exact same situation - another little orphan girl on the streets - and he is so good with her and coddling her, feeding her - you can't help but love him! Not to mention his love of Simplicia - I mean, you know what he is capable of, you know he has murdered (to protect Simplicia) - but you can't help but sympathize with him, especially after the scars from Dagon's visit. Didn't we all fall in love with Vols? I did.

I am with mALX on Mankar (where is his wife, WomanTruk, and shouldn't his son and daughter be BoyBike, and GirlLorry?). I thought he was a very well done cult-leader, brilliant, charismatic, and utterly ruthless, like the men she suggested. Richard Ramirez comes to mind too, and Scientology. I feel sorry for the rank and file members of the Mythic Dawn. They all strike me as people who were emotionally vulnerable at one point or another, enough for them to fall for Camoran's spiel and get sucked into his cult. Then of course the real brain-washing would have begun, to the point where their sense of selves would have been completely shattered.

Didn't we all fall in love with Vols? I did.

YES!! I was trying to think of an example of a hero you grow to love after they start out as a villain. Perfect!!

Vols is a hero? I never intended him to be viewed as one. I just tried to use him as a window into the life of a legionary, a peek under the helmet so to speak, for good and ill.


I cannot really think of villains from my own fic to rate. There are just so many! I suppose there might be Valen Dreth, or Jalbert (whom we shall be seeing again very soon). Or Morandil. I think the biggest villain in the TF would probably be Teresa's own feelings of insecurity!

This post has been edited by SubRosa: Jan 24 2013, 09:33 PM

[mALX]

Vols is a hero? I never intended him to be viewed as one. I just tried to use him as a window into the life of a legionary, a peek under the helmet so to speak, for good and ill.

I never thought of him as a hero, but he did heroic things. That scar on his face was because he gave Teresa the last of the healing potions. The way he brought food to the steet people, the way his love for Simplicia was so deep after so much time had passed. And with Teresa there was a sense he regretted that time/mindframe he was in when he did that to her, but couldn't take back what was done. There was a sense that the things he did today were attempts at atonement for a past he couldn't change.

He was a brilliantly written and complex character.

EDIT: I had the feeling he knowingly took that scar in the face as if in a kind reverse retribution against himself, something to see in the looking glass as a reminder of (and for) the inner scars he left on Teresa in her childhood - scars he could still see in her now as an adult.

This post has been edited by mALX: Jan 24 2013, 10:29 PM

[SubRosa]

Vols is a hero? I never intended him to be viewed as one. I just tried to use him as a window into the life of a legionary, a peek under the helmet so to speak, for good and ill.

I never thought of him as a hero, but he did heroic things.

That is certainly true. That is how I try to write people. Not as heroes or villains, but rather as people: who do heroic things, or villainous things. I find that is the case with people IRL. None of us are the shiningly noble characters we find in stories. But we can do things that are simply brilliant. Or terrible.