Stormcloak Or Imperial, Which side are you on? Options

[King Of Beasts]

Welcome! Which side are you on? Are you a strong, patriotic Stormcloak? Or are you a loyal, sophisticated Imperial? What about a powerful Thalmor Mage? Do you believe Ulfric Stormcloak truly cares about the good people of Skyrim, and agree that the Empire has turned it's back on Skyrim and Talos, or do you believe that the Stormcloaks are just a bunch of rebels, under a false leader who cares about nobody but himself? Perhaps you're a Thalmor agent who's just going to sit back and enjoy the show?

Please no arguing, insulting, flaming, etc, etc. Debates are welcome as long as they don't get out of hand. In this thread you can pick what side you chose and explain why.

Thank You,
-KoB

I chose the Stormcloaks. Honestly, the empire turned their backs on all of Tamriel, and abandoning Talos made everything worse. I think Titus Mede is a complete coward. I don't think Uriel Septim would have surrendered to the Thalmor even if he was at the wrong end of a Thalmor blade. He'd want the empire to keep fighting.

Truthfully, I think Ulfric Stormcloak is a racist, self centered [censored], but he does have a good cause.

This post has been edited by King Of Beasts: Jan 12 2013, 03:56 AM

[flowerboom]

its fair to say , like all conflicts , the civil war is a complex one and one which many people have differant motives for playing a part in .

officially the war happended because of a refusal to stop worshipping talos , and a disgust at the empire . gradually it evolved into a move for total independance rather than ridding skyrim of the thalmore . some have joined for nationlistic purposes , others for riches and glory , the war has divided everybody into : camp empire and camp stormcloak

and that wasnt the actual motive of the war , its just how it developed

Also most people think ( users i mean) that ulfric stormcloak , the man rallying / behind the whole resistance movement , is a manipulative tyrant whom only declared war for his own motive rather than for skyrim.

but the empire played dirty with ulfric , its known as the "markarth incident"

basically during the great war the forsworn ( a freedom-fighting fanatical group dedicating to making the reach an independant nation because they claim it was stolen from them) took over markarth , in desperation the empire turned to ulfric to remove them.

For 2 years they ruled the reach and the time was actually quite prosperous , ulfric dutifully obeyed the empire and won the war against them , the imperial gained control again.

but his price was high , he demanded that he and his people should be allowed to worship talos , but if they allowed this the empire faced another great war months after it had ended.

The empire lied , they painted ulfric as a child-slaughtering , woman-raping , bloodthirsty , savage nord . they denounced him and humiliated him.

Just to save their own skin , they betrayed ulfric and humilated him , after what he had done for them.

This is why i still have some sympathy for ulfric , what the empire did was wrong , and i struggle to forgive them for it.