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SubRosa |
Aug 16 2014, 07:58 PM
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I dusted off my copy of Neverwinter Nights 2 a few days ago. I installed - or actually reinstalled it - a few months ago along with Neverwinter Nights 1. I played through most of NWN 1 back then with a dual-weaponed Fighter/Rogue named Kestrel. Earlier this week I decided to take a crack at NWN 2. I found that I had never installed the two expansions, so I threw those on too (I have NWN1 Diamond Edition, and NWN2 Platinum). Then I discovered that my NWN2 version was not up to date, even though I had thought the Platinum edition was the final version. So I tried updating it through the built in updater. But Atari's server doesn't work anymore, so I cannot. I went looking online for the manual patches, but could not find them anywhere either. Though I did find a manual patcher program that would work if I had the patches. In the end I found NWN2 on Gog, and just bought it from them again. That gave me the final version of the game, which does not require the cd to be in the drive to play. Thank you Gog, for being reliable after the original publisher of the game refused to support their product. This is what worries me about Steam, not to mention all modern games that require you to log into a server to authenticate before you can play your single player game. Are they still going to support games like Skyrim 10 or 15 years from now? Or are they going to shut those servers down for new games instead? Then we will have to either buy a DRM-free version of the game from Gog, or resort to pirates to make an illegal crack to play the game we legally bought. Anyway, I rolled a new toon to beat the game with (yes, that is just for you Wyrd, in case you ever read this ). She is a Wood Elf named Antheia. I went with my old standby of a Ranger. Since Kestrel was a dual-wielder, I went the archer's path with Antheia. So far she has slogged her way through the swamp, Fort Locke, the graveyard, and all the side dungeons. A few minutes ago she and her crew stepped onto the docks at Neverwinter itself. I experimented a bit with her Ranger animal companions. First I tried a wolf, because of their knockdown ability. But her Wolf Asena hardy ever knocked anyone down. So then I tried a boar (named Varahi), but that one did not do anything for me either. Finally I went to Artio, the brown bear. She isn't super either, but has managed to live through most of her battles, which is better than the other ones did. Thankfully you can resummon your companion if they die, so they don't really die. Speaking of which, I have been using the NWN2 Character Editor to change her animal companion. It lets you edit most things about your character, but not everything. It doesn't allow you to edit your companions at all though Turns out you can edit all the companions too. When you go to the file open screen, you have to open each character - be it the player or companion - separately. The PC is the playerlist.ifo file, and the companions each have their own *.ros file. It requires installing Java, which did not thrill me. I am using NENs Final Face Head Hair Combination Project, which adds a few heads and bunch of hairs from Oblivion, including our old favorites by Ren and Corean. There are not that many mods for NWN2 on the Nexus though, but I did find links to a bunch of them in this post - just click on Show Spoiler to see them all. I downloaded the Easy Mod Compilation from near the top. I am using the extra heads from that as well, but I am still not really thrilled with what is out there, at least for the elf faces. The Compilation does come with a really handy little mod that allows you to multi-class your companions. It is the three loose .xml files in the zip file. I used it to multi-class Neeshka to a Swashbuckler/Rogue, which seems perfect for her. Speaking of multi-classing, I just multi-classed Antheia as a Sorcerer as well. That will allow her to eventually become an Arcane Archer (a Prestige Class). She just needs a few more Ranger levels to get her Base Attack Bonus higher. Being a Sorcerer gives her a few arcane spells in addition to the few Ranger spells she has. She took one that gives a +20 to her attack rolls, along with a Color Spray - which I have always liked. Since she is usually the first in the party, the latter makes for an excellent opening move when entering a room. Being a Sorcerer also gave her a Familiar. She chose a cat named Sekhmet. So now she has a bear and a cat. Since Elanee is also in the group, she has a badger companion. So now there are four people and three animals, making quite the army tramping around the Sword Coast. This post has been edited by SubRosa: Jul 10 2020, 09:35 PM
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SubRosa |
Jun 18 2019, 12:16 AM
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QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Jun 17 2019, 06:22 PM) QUOTE(SubRosa @ Jun 17 2019, 05:11 PM) QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Jun 17 2019, 05:42 PM) @Subbie- Is January a monk?
January is a monk, pretty much like she is in her fiction. Except without the high tech hagfish armor. Nice! Khajiit is running a Kenku shadow monk in a D&D campaign right now. It’s a blast (when the rolls are going right anyway, lol)! I had to look up what those things are. The Kenku sound really weird, but cool. Crow People! I am guessing that is good old-fashioned tabletop D&D? I have not played it since 3rd edition, so I am totally out of the loop these days. It sounds like it would be really challenging to play a Kenku in a tabletop setting, since you can only mimic things you have previously heard. QUOTE(RaderOfTheLostArk @ Jun 17 2019, 06:25 PM) Cool screenshots, Subbie! And yes, you just drag potions/healing kits onto your henchman for them to use it. Potions have definitely been helpful for the most part, although I haven't had a chance to use some types (e.g. lesser restoration, which does come in potion form).
I've really enjoyed my time with the game so far, and have played way too much of it the past couple of days or so. I am in the Chapter One finale right now after getting back all the Waterdhavian creatures at the Road to Helm's Hold.
I've gotten pretty decent at the game, but there are still some things I am trying to figure out. I just cannot figure out how to make my normal attacks quicker, because they are fairly slow. The Great Cleave feat and attacks after killing an enemy help, but I am talking about normally. Also, I can't figure out why I can't use the Level I Paladin spells. They are dimmed out and just say "0," even though I know the spells. I've been able to use Lay On Hands but that's it. And every once in a while I have a "weapon is ineffective" message without being able to figure out what weapons WOULD be effective. There's some other things here and there but those are most of the big issues I am having.
I've gotten more comfortable with making my own choices on leveling up, too. Briefly considered taking another class but I think that is too confusing with my inexperience, so I'm sticking with just being a Paladin--at least for now. Makes more sense to fully learn how one class works before I try to take on another one.
There's a lot in my adventures that I could go over, but that would take a long while to type so I'll give a synopsis. I first went to Beggar's Nest, and for a while I was doing decently on my own. It wasn't until I got clobbered by those snake cultists in service to Gulnan that I realized I had to get a henchman. So I went back to the Trade of Blades and picked the first follower I could find, Daelan Red-Tiger the Half-Orc. Dude's an absolute beast. No way I could've gotten through most of the stuff I have without him. And that dire spider in those catacombs on the way to Gulnan was total [censored]. It made me have to go over to the Peninsula District and finish that place before going back to Beggar's Nest. The Docks District was relatively easy to get through but that was probably because I had learned a bunch of the ropes of the game at that point. Blacklake was the easiest one to do, which I saved for last. Made a lot of gold along the way and FINALLY got a belt near the end of Chapter One.
Desther is a grade A d-bag. I think they were kind of telegraphing that. What surprised me was who was helping him. I think the deliberately made Desther the one way, to make that second person more of a surprise. The issue with the Paladin spells might be two things. First is with a Paladin you have to memorize the spells you want to use. That is not just knowing them. I believe when you open your spellbook (shortcut key B ), you will see the spells you know on the left, and the one's you have memorized on the right. There will be a bunch of blank boxes there when you start. Make sure you add the spells you think you want to use to the boxes on the right. Also make sure you select them for each level. Or your Wisdom might be too low to cast the spells. A base wisdom score of 10 + the spell's level is required to cast a spell. I think it might just be the way the game works that makes it seem like your attacks are going slow. Some fights can go on for a long, long time. I am using Flurry, which gives you double the attacks, and it seems like I am going slow too. I would not worry about it. I get that weapon ineffective message sometimes too. It might be a creature that can only be hit by a certain level of magic item (+1, or +2, etc...) I think some also have a Damage Resistance that soaks a certain amount of damage for every hit, and if you just roll under that you do nothing, and you get that message. But if you roll high enough, some damage will get through. Multiclassing can get tricky. The main thing is that there is an XP penalty if your two classes get more than 1 level apart from another. The real trick is learning the loopholes. Some races get a favored class, which does not count towards that in multiclassing. So you can be as lopsided in your levels as you want so long as one of your classes is that favored one. I remember that Elves have Wizard as a favored class. When Humans multiclass one of their classes is automatically considered a favored class, no matter what it is. So humans can do 2 classes and never have a penalty, no matter what they are. It is good to be a Human in this game, you get some nice perks like that. The Rage of the Red Tiger! Yes, Daelan is a monster! I have dabbled with the other companions, but he is always my go to in the end. He just plows through everything.
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TheCheshireKhajiit |
Jun 18 2019, 02:23 AM
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Joined: 28-September 16
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QUOTE(SubRosa @ Jun 17 2019, 06:16 PM) QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Jun 17 2019, 06:22 PM) QUOTE(SubRosa @ Jun 17 2019, 05:11 PM) QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Jun 17 2019, 05:42 PM) @Subbie- Is January a monk?
January is a monk, pretty much like she is in her fiction. Except without the high tech hagfish armor. Nice! Khajiit is running a Kenku shadow monk in a D&D campaign right now. It’s a blast (when the rolls are going right anyway, lol)! I had to look up what those things are. The Kenku sound really weird, but cool. Crow People! I am guessing that is good old-fashioned tabletop D&D? I have not played it since 3rd edition, so I am totally out of the loop these days. It sounds like it would be really challenging to play a Kenku in a tabletop setting, since you can only mimic things you have previously heard. Yeah speech is a little weird but my Kenku doesn’t do a lot of talking anyway. When he does, Khajiit says things like “In a myriad of different voices for each word, Quaorl (that’s his name) says...” and this one just says what needs to be said. One time, one of our party members was going to fight so Khajiit said “Give’em hell! Quaorl said that in the voice of a sailor which he overheard speaking to another sailor.”. He can make mimic noises almost perfectly too! Set him up in the corner of a tavern and have him mimic a lute player. Here’s a rough drawing Khajiit did of him.This post has been edited by TheCheshireKhajiit: Jun 18 2019, 02:25 AM
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"Family is an odd thing, is it not? Defined by blood, separated by blood, joined by blood. In the end, it's all just blood." -Dhaunayne Aundae
May you walk on warm sands!
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SubRosa |
Jun 18 2019, 02:28 AM
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QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Jun 17 2019, 09:23 PM) QUOTE(SubRosa @ Jun 17 2019, 06:16 PM) QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Jun 17 2019, 06:22 PM) QUOTE(SubRosa @ Jun 17 2019, 05:11 PM) QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Jun 17 2019, 05:42 PM) @Subbie- Is January a monk?
January is a monk, pretty much like she is in her fiction. Except without the high tech hagfish armor. Nice! Khajiit is running a Kenku shadow monk in a D&D campaign right now. It’s a blast (when the rolls are going right anyway, lol)! I had to look up what those things are. The Kenku sound really weird, but cool. Crow People! I am guessing that is good old-fashioned tabletop D&D? I have not played it since 3rd edition, so I am totally out of the loop these days. It sounds like it would be really challenging to play a Kenku in a tabletop setting, since you can only mimic things you have previously heard. Yeah speech is a little weird but my Kenku doesn’t do a lot of talking anyway. When he does, Khajiit says things like “In a myriad of different voices for each word, Quaorl (that’s his name) says...” and this one just says what needs to be said. One time, one of our party members was going to fight so Khajiit said “Give’em hell! Quaorl said that in the voice of a sailor which he overheard speaking to another sailor.”. He can make mimic noises almost perfectly too! Set him up in the corner of a tavern and have him mimic a lute player. Here’s a rough drawing Khajiit did of him.Very cool! January would totally team up with him to kick supervillain butt, or orcs, whatever comes first!
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TheCheshireKhajiit |
Jun 18 2019, 04:18 AM
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QUOTE(SubRosa @ Jun 17 2019, 08:28 PM) Very cool! January would totally team up with him to kick supervillain butt, or orcs, whatever comes first! Thanks! Khajiit is sure January would be a more than worthy adventuring companion! This one has really been enjoying playing Quaorl. His background is criminal/spy and he has an obsession with shiny things. He joined a martial arts monastery in hopes of learning to fly (Kenku don’t have wings anymore and Quaorl is on a personal quest to learn how to fly. He read in a book that certain monks have flight like abilities.). The monks could sense the avarice for all that is shiny in Quaorl’s soul, and told him before he could learn anything else, he would need to tame that dark dragon within. They taught him techniques to quiet this obsession and also how to fight with spear and his own body then sent him out into the world on a journey of self betterment. More power would open to him, they promised, if he would find causes to lend his strength to. This obsession with shiny things is a character flaw that Quaorl actually has to contend with in game. Whenever he enters a new room or area and there are no immediate enemies to fight, Khajiit asks the DM if Quaorl can see anything shiny. If he can see something shiny, he must make a wisdom saving throw to avoid blindly rushing into the room to investigate the shinies. This could be bad if the area is booby trapped or there were some hidden enemies lurking about. The saving throw must be higher than 15 at lvl 5, 10 at lvl 10, 5 at lvl 15, and 1 at lvl20, the idea being that as Quaorl gets stronger, his obsession is easier to control, while also still being something that he has to fight and still get beaten by occasionally.
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"Family is an odd thing, is it not? Defined by blood, separated by blood, joined by blood. In the end, it's all just blood." -Dhaunayne Aundae
May you walk on warm sands!
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That looks really cool! I was thinking it rem... Sep 4 2015, 01:46 AM SubRosa I downloaded the Enhanced Edition of Neverwinter N... Jun 12 2019, 11:57 PM Acadian Very cool! :) Jun 13 2019, 12:04 AM SubRosa Just out of curiosity, I loaded up the Diamond Edi... Jun 13 2019, 12:35 AM SubRosa I went back to the Enhanced Edition after all. It ... Jun 14 2019, 01:28 AM RaderOfTheLostArk Well, SubRosa, I also have just now fired up Never... Jun 14 2019, 04:04 AM SubRosa Welcome to Neverwinter and the frozen North Rad... Jun 14 2019, 09:47 PM RaderOfTheLostArk
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[quote name='SubRosa' post='316583' date='Jun 14 ... Jun 15 2019, 04:35 PM SubRosa After briefly flirting with first multiclassing as... Jun 17 2019, 12:28 AM SubRosa Rader, one thing I am remembering about NWN is tha... Jun 17 2019, 05:40 PM Acadian Welcome to NWN, January! I remember the monk... Jun 17 2019, 09:48 PM TheCheshireKhajiit @Subbie-
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January is a monk, ... Jun 17 2019, 11:22 PM RaderOfTheLostArk Cool screenshots, Subbie! And yes, you just dr... Jun 17 2019, 11:25 PM RaderOfTheLostArk
[quote name='TheCheshireKhajiit' post='316651' d... Jun 18 2019, 03:34 AM RaderOfTheLostArk It sure is great when you get a spoiler when you a... Jun 24 2019, 04:19 AM RaderOfTheLostArk And the Neverwinter Nights main campaign has been ... Jun 29 2019, 02:34 AM SubRosa Congrats on smiting evil! I have played both S... Jun 29 2019, 04:31 PM SubRosa I discovered a way to hide your helmet on another ... Jun 29 2019, 11:49 PM SubRosa I was looking back over SOTU and HOTU, and now I r... Jun 30 2019, 01:52 AM SubRosa January denies the power
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January i... Jun 30 2019, 06:56 PM RaderOfTheLostArk
I discovered a way to hide your helmet on another... Jul 1 2019, 01:15 AM SubRosa This place is hot
Doing the Neverwinter hustle
T... Jul 7 2019, 02:27 AM RaderOfTheLostArk The Hordes of the Underdark expansion sure is some... Jul 7 2019, 05:35 AM SubRosa I vaguely recall some of what you are saying about... Jul 7 2019, 04:53 PM RaderOfTheLostArk And down goes Mephistopheles! Eliza Maddox has... Jul 8 2019, 12:46 AM SubRosa It looks like XP is not shared when you have compa... Jul 15 2019, 09:52 PM Acadian More fun shots of Jan in action!
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