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mirocu
post Feb 1 2023, 07:36 PM
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Such a nice one! Wouldn't mind if you sent it to me if you get bored of it. Just field strip it and send it in an xbox biggrin.gif




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post Feb 1 2023, 07:56 PM
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QUOTE(mirocu @ Feb 1 2023, 01:36 PM) *

Such a nice one! Wouldn't mind if you sent it to me if you get bored of it. Just field strip it and send it in an xbox biggrin.gif




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post Feb 15 2023, 05:07 PM
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Okay, here are a couple pics of my gun:


https://imgur.com/a/brp3kcH


I only shot it one time = target practice in the brother-in-law's back yard. It is LOUD, and has a powerful kick back, lol.






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post Feb 15 2023, 05:14 PM
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Very nice, mALX. Good choice on not too big for your hands but still a decent caliber.


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post Feb 15 2023, 05:26 PM
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Very nice, mALX! Just the gun I wanted to get in CO2 version but didn't. Is it .40?


I read something about stopping power not being a thing but as a hunter I reject that notion. A higher caliber makes more damage quicker so the nervous system shuts down faster, resulting in death. Having been in the military, what's your take, Acadian?


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post Feb 15 2023, 06:00 PM
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QUOTE(Acadian @ Feb 15 2023, 11:14 AM) *

Very nice, mALX. Good choice on not too big for your hands but still a decent caliber.


Thank you! It does fit in my hands well; though just a little heavy. .


QUOTE(mirocu @ Feb 15 2023, 11:26 AM) *

Very nice, mALX! Just the gun I wanted to get in CO2 version but didn't. Is it .40?

I read something about stopping power not being a thing but as a hunter I reject that notion. A higher caliber makes more damage quicker so the nervous system shuts down faster, resulting in death. Having been in the military, what's your take, Acadian?


Thank you, Mirocu!

(It is a 9mm). It has two extra clips that I use with full metal jackets (for target practice). The clip on board is hollowpoints (talk about "stopping power!"). It has three extra grips; but the one that is on it is the one I like best. It also came with the lock and an invitation from Smith & Wesson to join the NRA; lol. It was a nice little package Smith & Wesson put out. It shoots straight enough with the right hand on it (in other words, not mine, lol).






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post Feb 15 2023, 06:15 PM
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9 mill is good enough I suppose. Same caliber as the classic kpist we had in the military up to the '80s or so. Could be wrong. Shot that thing many years ago, quite good fun and no kick from it being basically a small rifle but man was it hard not to squeeze the trigger too much so it went *BRRRRP* and the mag was empty laugh.gif


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post Feb 15 2023, 06:50 PM
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QUOTE(mALX @ Feb 15 2023, 10:07 AM) *

Okay, here are a couple pics of my gun:


https://imgur.com/a/brp3kcH


I only shot it one time = target practice in the brother-in-law's back yard. It is LOUD, and has a powerful kick back, lol.

Nice mALX! My pistol is one of these also!

QUOTE(mirocu @ Feb 15 2023, 11:15 AM) *

9 mill is good enough I suppose. Same caliber as the classic kpist we had in the military up to the '80s or so. Could be wrong. Shot that thing many years ago, quite good fun and no kick from it being basically a small rifle but man was it hard not to squeeze the trigger too much so it went *BRRRRP* and the mag was empty laugh.gif

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post Feb 15 2023, 06:55 PM
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QUOTE(mirocu @ Feb 15 2023, 12:15 PM) *

9 mill is good enough I suppose. Same caliber as the classic kpist we had in the military up to the '80s or so. Could be wrong. Shot that thing many years ago, quite good fun and no kick from it being basically a small rifle but man was it hard not to squeeze the trigger too much so it went *BRRRRP* and the mag was empty laugh.gif


It is plenty enough for me, I can't pick up a heavy gun or handle the kickback of a really powerful one. The 9mm with hollowpoints will stop anything coming at me if I am ever strong enough to cock the damn thing, lol.






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QUOTE(mALX @ Feb 15 2023, 10:07 AM) *

Okay, here are a couple pics of my gun:


https://imgur.com/a/brp3kcH


I only shot it one time = target practice in the brother-in-law's back yard. It is LOUD, and has a powerful kick back, lol.

Nice mALX! My pistol is one of these also!


Thanks Khajiit! I do like them. I used to have a 9mm Ruger, and loved it = actually liked it better than this S&W.






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post Feb 15 2023, 06:57 PM
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Good thing about the S&W you got are those different grips to switch out. So whatever caliber you may choose you're likely to still get it to fit your hand. Wouldn't mind one myself.


So when you're tired of it, here's my address...


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post Feb 15 2023, 07:09 PM
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QUOTE(mirocu @ Feb 15 2023, 12:57 PM) *

Good thing about the S&W you got are those different grips to switch out. So whatever caliber you may choose you're likely to still get it to fit your hand. Wouldn't mind one myself.


So when you're tired of it, here's my address...


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post Feb 15 2023, 09:00 PM
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QUOTE(mirocu @ Feb 15 2023, 08:26 AM) *
... I read something about stopping power not being a thing but as a hunter I reject that notion. A higher caliber makes more damage quicker so the nervous system shuts down faster, resulting in death. Having been in the military, what's your take, Acadian?


I think mALX made a great choice. Given the short barrel, the gun is obviously for short range and that is where stopping power is king. 9mm with hollowpoint will do the job without knocking mALX around disrupting her ability to fire again if needed.

Stopping power is different than killing power and critical at short range. An M-16 is only 5.56 caliber but it packs an OMG muzzle velocity. The small, slender bullet reaches target very quickly and ignores wind. With its pointed nose and super velocity, it not only has long range accuracy but can hit a foe in the hip, tumble several times inside the body (because the small bullet is so easily deflected) and exit out the shoulder - plenty of killing power. Low stopping power though in that, though it will kill really well, it may not instantly stop (the momentum) of a large foe charging at close range.

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post Feb 15 2023, 09:24 PM
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Interesting points there, Acadian. I think what you said last was what I had in mind with regards to stopping power; can the caliber in question stop someone's momentum quick enough for the threat to be neutrilized at a close range. As a hunter I had a bear or wolf in mind. Or a xenomorph.

You did bring up the interesting thing about small calibers tumbling inside the body, I guess that's a characteristic of the .22LR as well? I've heard for and against that caliber for self defense with those against it talking about stopping power not being there and those for talking about killing power, what you said basically. The problem I see here is that while it can get rid if the threat it may take awhile and by then it can be too late. And then we can talk about shot placement and the sun's position relative to Jupiter and all the rest of it tongue.gif


You made me think here, that's no small feat. Thanks, Acadian biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(mirocu @ Feb 15 2023, 02:24 PM) *

Interesting points there, Acadian. I think what you said last was what I had in mind with regards to stopping power; can the caliber in question stop someone's momentum quick enough for the threat to be neutrilized at a close range. As a hunter I had a bear or wolf in mind. Or a xenomorph.

You did bring up the interesting thing about small calibers tumbling inside the body, I guess that's a characteristic of the .22LR as well? I've heard for and against that caliber for self defense with those against it talking about stopping power not being there and those for talking about killing power, what you said basically. The problem I see here is that while it can get rid if the threat it may take awhile and by then it can be too late. And then we can talk about shot placement and the sun's position relative to Jupiter and all the rest of it tongue.gif


You made me think here, that's no small feat. Thanks, Acadian biggrin.gif

Here in the southern US, alligator hunters use .22LR because they have just enough power to penetrate a ‘gator’s skull, but when it gets in there it tends to bounce around a bit. Scrambled gator brains anyone?


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.22LR on a gator sounds like Dundee level laugh.gif


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post Feb 16 2023, 12:31 AM
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Now with angled grip!


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That is a proper nice gun! happy.gif


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QUOTE(mirocu @ Feb 16 2023, 11:40 AM) *

That is a proper nice gun! happy.gif


Can't wait to take it out to my Brother-in-Law's farm and test it out on his outdoor shooting range.


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Wouldn't mind this Mossberg 9x19

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Now this is a sexy rifle!!!


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