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stargate525 |
Jun 9 2005, 11:38 PM
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[quote=Alexander][quote=Troika]I just had an epiphany that should clear up one minor discussion we were having, over whether or not Morrowind's books should be included in the library.
How about if the print shop used as a fake front for the library had them there, so it was a print shop/book shop?[/quote]
nice idea
was just pondering on something similar.
and I think it would be easy to get that in the mod, you'd only need to copy the text from the books either from the CS or from the imperial library.
one other thing to consider.
the size of the library, sure there are many projects being done, and many books written but when talking about a library like you've been talking about so far I really imagine it to be huge, a huge arched chamber filled to the brim with books. but given the quantity there would either be a very small arched chamber that looks filled to the brim, a very large and very empty chamber of books or a chamber filled to the brim with many duplicates.
I wonder what your thoughts are about that or if anyone has even ever considered this.[/quote]
shhh. We might also sneak the daggerfall, arena, and obllivion books in there, so that would add up to well over 1000 just by themselves im betting.
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KhabaLox |
Jun 10 2005, 04:49 PM
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I'm not sure having potions or scrolls of levitation/tk would work. You would have to regen them somehow and I don't know if that is possible or not. Perhaps having an NPC who sells those spells cheaply could work, but then you have to have the appropriate skill.
Does anyone know if you can make ladders in the CS? I know there were no ladders in MW, but you should be able to make a really steep staircase that you can see through so it looks like a ladder. I also like the idea of vaulted ceilings and tall bookcases or a two story room with a balcony wrapping all around.
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Adanorcil |
Jun 10 2005, 07:34 PM
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Joined: 7-June 05
From: Isle of Arteaum, Nicrythe Tower
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I think that a library ladder could easily be modelled. Afterwards, it can probably be scripted to move the player upwards when he collides with it. (There even are collision detection functions in Morrowind.)
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Troika |
Jun 11 2005, 11:38 AM
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Joined: 30-March 05
From: Berlin, Germany
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So is everyone happy with what has been discussed over the main hall and the front 'cover', considering how everyone seems to be moving onto to other subjects...
But spirakl staircases, and balconies, are always good ideas, and I say the more we cram into the library, the better it will be!
And a definite thumbs up to ladders, although it may not be necessary for them to be functional... If we don't end up with a vast amount of books, we could just have a fake upper section of books, just to give the appearance of more books...
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stargate525 |
Jun 11 2005, 05:47 PM
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Joined: 10-April 05
From: wisconsin; land of cheese, beer, and bratwurst!
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[quote=9of9]Not necessarily fake... just duplicates, why?
Because I just can't wait to go in, cast an area 500 fireball and see them all fly in a glorious, Havok imbued, avalanche all around me
Then again, we might have framerate issues if that were the case :embarrassed:[/quote]
hmmm, sounds fun.
troika, so what WAS discussed over the front cover and the main hall?
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stargate525 |
Jun 11 2005, 11:56 PM
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From: wisconsin; land of cheese, beer, and bratwurst!
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[quote=vaanic~one]about the ladders thing. We cannot have ladders for every single piece of wall, that would cram up the library, and we would end up not being able to actually able to get to the bottom part of the books.
So we would have to have about one ladder per wall, right? So we would have to make the ladder moveable in order for us to be able to get to the rest of the upper books. This is not a hard thing consideing that OB has a physics engine (phew!), but it is something I thought should be brought up.
as for the balconies. we cannot have ladders in conjunction with balconies. So the layout could be that half the rooms have balconies and half have ladders. perhaps in a routine way, which would make things look nicer.[/quote]
maybe a half balcony? Sorta like the one in Beauty and the Beast? I think I could pull that off.
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WillyBubba |
Jun 23 2005, 04:04 AM
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Troika, I love the idea for printing the old books as the front for the library. That'll be really easy to pull off as well. Just a bunch of copy and pasting.
I like the balcony thing as well. Perhaps a door to enter the main library, and at the opposite end is a set of staiors, leading to the second floor, which is only partial, as that is where the balconies are. So it'd look perhaps a bit like this:
________/ _________
IB BI
IB BI
IB BI
ISSSSSSS SSSSSSSSI
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S = Stairs
B = Balcony
I and _ = Walls
/ = Main Doors
Not to scale or anything, but it gets the idea across. And we could duplicate the stairs and balcony, on the second floor, at the opposite end of the first flight, if needed. Ladders seem like quite a project to me... but I have limited scripting know. Perhpas Alexander's rental ring thing. Ahwell, plenty of time to figure that stuff out.
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jonajosa |
Jul 3 2005, 05:30 AM
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The library wasn't going to be a faction. However i have been exploring the thought of having to do some "Favor quests" for some guy who lives in the middle of the city and knows about the library and its treasures.
Heres what I have so far.
Lets say the Library goes in Anvil ok?
You walk around and a guy will aproach you outside a tavern. He asks you if you want to know a secret and natrualy you say "yes." So he rambles on and on about this fabled Library and its lost treasures. After a while of listening to his... information he finally tells you that he knows where this library is and how to get to it. However this information comes at a price. And that price would be a few personal favors for him.
First he tells you someone had accused him of having illegal books. So he asks you to get the guards of his back by planting a illegal book in his accusers house and telling the guards that you saw him acting wierdly in his house. They go check it out and find the book and take him to prison.
Next he wants you to get a book that he has wanted ever since his childhood but could never afford it. Apparently he still can't afford it and he wants you to steal it for him. Its in a manor on the rich side of town. Steal it and bring it back.
Last the guy gives you a simple task. Go to the park in the middle of town that night and wait for him to meet you there. Once he meets you there he takes you on walk towards the middle of town and outside a book store. He takes you inside and leads you to a wall covered by a tapestry. He moves it out of the way and behind it is a door. You both go through it and down a long stair case and go through another door.
You walk through and enter a high ceiling room with lights hanging everywhere to brighten the place up. He then walks infront of you and tells you the magic words. "Welcome to my library."
You see? The guy giving you the quests at the begining is actually the librarian and he's testing you to know if you should be the next librarian after he dies.
That i think would be the most spectacular begining to a mod like this.
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