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post Jun 1 2015, 11:39 PM
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QUOTE(mALX @ Jun 1 2015, 03:02 PM) *

The hot bar is no different than using hot keys in Oblivion - you only had like 8 hot keys there.

But in Oblivion I can use any spell I want to at any time, whether or not I have a hot key assigned to it. My impression of ESO is that unless it is in that hotbar I cannot use it.

And I need to have a Restoration Staff just to heal myself, and a different Destruction staff for every element? Oh hell no! This is what I mean about it not feeling like an Elder Scrolls game. It is some other game that stole the Elder Scrolls setting.

If this was a single player game, I could mod all this out. But that is not an option. That is what really kills this game for me.



Okay, I'm trying to find out what I can about spells and staffs. So far this is what I have found:




Copied from an article:



In Skyrim, you "held" magic in one or both hands. You could not have a weapon equipped in a hand you intend to use magic with.

Magic in ESO will behave much more like Oblivion wherein you can still cast a fireball from a hand with a sword or bow in it.


Staffs will work similar to the way they did in Skyrim, except now in ESO, there is a concept of holding down the attack button with a staff to make the staff cast a more powerful attack.


The only comment I've seen on the magic system in ESO so far is this:


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Pretty awesome, and it works just phenomenally!




In this game you have a hot bar linked to your currently equipped weapon. You have 5 slots on your hot bar to put active abilities in these will cost either stamina or magicka to use depending on the ability. There are no long cool downs for abilities but there is usually a short casting animation so you can't spam them as fast as you can hit the hot keys.


At level 15 you unlock the ability to swap between 2 weapons while in combat so you can have up to 10 active abilities available to you.

Out of combat you can freely swap your abilities around.


You get the abilities you slot into your hot bar by unlocking them using skill points from the games skill lines. You get one skill point per level and can find things called mundus stones in the game which allow you to get more skill points.



Customization of abilities is achieved by choosing passive abilities which complement them, and secondly while progressing up skill lines you get at certain points to "morph" abilities.

An example given was turning a direct damage ability into a damage over time ability or making a single target ability have an AoE effect.


Joining the mages guild opens a skill line. Some of the class skill lines offer a selection of abilities that are close. Templars, for example, have a healing skill line, sorcerers get a elemental damage skill line and a summoning skill line.

(Not mentioned was ultimate abilities which are linked to a mechanic called finesse).





And this is an article strictly about a Sorceress/Sorcerer character:



http://www.esosorcerer.com/category/spells/




** Still trying to find a definitive answer about the spells; so far it looks like you can carry a weapon and use a choice of five spells/perks with that weapon; switch weapons and have a choice of five more spells/perks with that weapon.






I know Acadian will like one thing about ESO = Buffy can hold her bow and cast a spell without shouldering the bow; and immediately jump right back into shooting arrows.





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post Jun 2 2015, 12:47 AM
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QUOTE(mALX @ Jun 1 2015, 03:39 PM) *

I know Acadian will like one thing about ESO = Buffy can hold her bow and cast a spell without shouldering the bow; and immediately jump right back into shooting arrows.
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Yes, the inability to weld that bow to her left hand so it is always ready for shooting or blocking if needed, and use her right to cycle between nocking arrows and spellcasting has always been my biggest complaint regarding Skyrim.


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post Jun 2 2015, 01:28 AM
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I know this game is a big financial and hard drive commitment; and because of that it is important to really weigh whether it is worth it to you to commit that much into one game.

I've kind of been going through that too, I mean I bought the game for my son and have been playing a character I added to HIS game without making that commitment for myself. I really wanted to be sure it was something I wanted before investing that kind of money into it.

For me, my son wanted it, and I always give him what he wants. And while he was at work, I asked him if I could test the waters; he left his character gen screen up for me. So I kind of got to test out the game with no commitment whatsoever; only a gift for my son he would have gotten regardless.

(Kind of like how SubRosa got to test out Witcher without a specific investment, so she could walk away if it didn't suit her without suffering a loss).

But for me, it is just really hard to imagine playing any game without SubRosa, because for the past 6 years she has brought so much fun into every game I have played that it felt as if we had actually played it together; and Acadian, Grits, etc - the fun of the playing the games was tripled just by being able to get on here and bounce our experiences and fun off one another.

And to meet Teresa/Persephone/Molly; Buffy; Jerric/Darnand; Haa Rei; etc - to actually see the familiar friends I've known these 6 years - to me it would be totally the most awesome experience ever to meet up here or there in the new world, or possibly clear a dungeon together, etc. - or even just like we've been doing and just share screenshots and stories on here - everything is better when shared with friends.


But I do understand the hesitation to put that much of a commitment into a game until you are sure it will suit you. So I'm trying to dig up every bit of info I can to make sure you are having an informed decision on whether it is worth it to you or not.

(But really hope it ends up being a game you like, because wherever you go you bring fun with you; and to be alone entering a new world just could never meet the same feeling as it has been even on single player games knowing the other friends of ours were there too).




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post Jun 5 2015, 02:55 AM
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I just learned you can resurrect your friends with a soul gem too! and I'm completely out of them now, lol.



Here is a chart for their use:



http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Soul_Gem_%28Online%29







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post Jun 5 2015, 03:08 AM
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QUOTE(mALX @ Jun 2 2015, 01:28 AM) *

But for me, it is just really hard to imagine playing any game without SubRosa, because for the past 6 years she has brought so much fun into every game I have played that it felt as if we had actually played it together; and Acadian, Grits, etc - the fun of the playing the games was tripled just by being able to get on here and bounce our experiences and fun off one another.

And to meet Teresa/Persephone/Molly; Buffy; Jerric/Darnand; Haa Rei; etc - to actually see the familiar friends I've known these 6 years - to me it would be totally the most awesome experience ever to meet up here or there in the new world, or possibly clear a dungeon together, etc. - or even just like we've been doing and just share screenshots and stories on here - everything is better when shared with friends.


wub.gif You're making me feel all warm and fuzzy. Not sure about anyone else but I'm definitely getting it. Console release day is only 4 days away.



Interesting bit about the soul gems. Didn't use them much in Skyrim so I wouldn't have bothered with them here if you hadn't warned us tongue.gif

I'm assuming Soul Trap is available to every class? I remember reading somewhere that souls are a big deal in ESO so it wouldn't be fair to have mages cornering the market biggrin.gif


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post Jun 5 2015, 03:53 AM
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QUOTE(hazmick @ Jun 4 2015, 10:08 PM) *

QUOTE(mALX @ Jun 2 2015, 01:28 AM) *

But for me, it is just really hard to imagine playing any game without SubRosa, because for the past 6 years she has brought so much fun into every game I have played that it felt as if we had actually played it together; and Acadian, Grits, etc - the fun of the playing the games was tripled just by being able to get on here and bounce our experiences and fun off one another.

And to meet Teresa/Persephone/Molly; Buffy; Jerric/Darnand; Haa Rei; etc - to actually see the familiar friends I've known these 6 years - to me it would be totally the most awesome experience ever to meet up here or there in the new world, or possibly clear a dungeon together, etc. - or even just like we've been doing and just share screenshots and stories on here - everything is better when shared with friends.


wub.gif You're making me feel all warm and fuzzy. Not sure about anyone else but I'm definitely getting it. Console release day is only 4 days away.



Interesting bit about the soul gems. Didn't use them much in Skyrim so I wouldn't have bothered with them here if you hadn't warned us tongue.gif

I'm assuming Soul Trap is available to every class? I remember reading somewhere that souls are a big deal in ESO so it wouldn't be fair to have mages cornering the market biggrin.gif


Oh good! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT !!!!

Oh, good question. Well, I think everyone can use it because you need them to recharge your weapons; but - truthfully I don't know one way or the other, because my character is Templar (so kind of Mage based).

I'll have to research it.


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post Jun 5 2015, 04:28 AM
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Okay, they said the soul gems need to be filled from the "Soul magic" line in this article:



http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Soul_Gems



And THIS article tells about the Soul magic line:



http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Soul_Magic



The article says that it is available to everyone regardless; but not right away. It becomes available at some time during the main questline - that is good to know, I'm glad you brought that up!







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post Jun 9 2015, 02:35 AM
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Tonight's the night, my fellow console players! Anyone staying up for it?



Em... anyone else playing on a console? hehe.gif



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post Jun 9 2015, 02:47 AM
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QUOTE(Grits @ Jun 8 2015, 09:35 PM) *

Tonight's the night, my fellow console players! Anyone staying up for it?



Em... anyone else playing on a console? hehe.gif




OMG,was everyone playing Online and I missed it because I was unplugged for a storm? Gaaaaah!







I wonder if console gamers can play with PC players on ESO?






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post Jun 9 2015, 03:09 AM
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QUOTE(mALX @ Jun 8 2015, 09:47 PM) *

QUOTE(Grits @ Jun 8 2015, 09:35 PM) *

Tonight's the night, my fellow console players! Anyone staying up for it?



Em... anyone else playing on a console? hehe.gif


I wonder if console gamers can play with PC players on ESO?

Unfortunately no. Since Ill be on a PS4 Ill only be able to connect with PS4 players. And not until midnight tonight. (I just checked and still have a timer.)



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post Jun 9 2015, 04:31 AM
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QUOTE(Grits @ Jun 8 2015, 10:09 PM) *

QUOTE(mALX @ Jun 8 2015, 09:47 PM) *

QUOTE(Grits @ Jun 8 2015, 09:35 PM) *

Tonight's the night, my fellow console players! Anyone staying up for it?



Em... anyone else playing on a console? hehe.gif


I wonder if console gamers can play with PC players on ESO?

Unfortunately no. Since Ill be on a PS4 Ill only be able to connect with PS4 players. And not until midnight tonight. (I just checked and still have a timer.)



Aw no, sad.gif



Darn it, that means if you like the game we still won't get to play on it together if we aren't on the same format? Urk.









** Oops, wrong thread. Edited that part out; moving to Everything thread - sorry about that.






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I'll be joining you guys next month! Who's playing this?

mALx, I know you're in.

QUOTE(Grits @ Jun 9 2015, 02:35 AM) *

Tonight's the night, my fellow console players! Anyone staying up for it?



Em... anyone else playing on a console? hehe.gif

I wish . . . . if I had a PS4.


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post Jun 9 2015, 05:55 AM
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QUOTE(Darkness Eternal @ Jun 8 2015, 11:50 PM) *

I'll be joining you guys next month! Who's playing this?

mALx, I know you're in.

QUOTE(Grits @ Jun 9 2015, 02:35 AM) *

Tonight's the night, my fellow console players! Anyone staying up for it?



Em... anyone else playing on a console? hehe.gif

I wish . . . . if I had a PS4.



Yeah!!!! Woo Hoo !!! (PC).





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post Jun 9 2015, 07:31 PM
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So i got ESO for Xbox One, and it came with a code for some free goodies! I get a pet, some treasure maps, and the ability to play any race with any alliance.

Now if only I could get onto the servers and actually play the darn thing... sad.gif


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Yay, congrats! I feel your pain, hazmick. Ive had big problems today with errors, lag, and getting kicked off only to come back already dead. One quest is going to be a lot harder now due to an error. And possibly Jerrics health is permanently damaged, since he has no active effects but it wont fully regenerate. First day fun. biggrin.gif

My kids named the scuttler Pip. We keep losing him! Im panicking because the lag is making Jerric stand still while I suspect he is dying from foes I cant see yet, and the kids (who are both old enough to drive and should possibly not be so involved with a scuttler) are yelling WHERES PIP!? Relax, Pip is fine. Hes safe in the Collections tab. laugh.gif


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post Jun 9 2015, 08:47 PM
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QUOTE(hazmick @ Jun 9 2015, 02:31 PM) *

So i got ESO for Xbox One, and it came with a code for some free goodies! I get a pet, some treasure maps, and the ability to play any race with any alliance.

Now if only I could get onto the servers and actually play the darn thing... sad.gif



WOO HOO! Congrats! Sounds like it came with the Imperial Edition!




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post Jun 9 2015, 09:28 PM
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QUOTE(mALX @ Jun 10 2015, 01:10 AM) *

Thank you for this! There's a great article for new players on the front page right now. Here is a link in case it's difficult to find in the future: Veteran Wisdom For New Players.


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QUOTE(Grits @ Jun 10 2015, 07:42 AM) *

QUOTE(mALX @ Jun 10 2015, 01:10 AM) *

Thank you for this! There's a great article for new players on the front page right now. Here is a link in case it's difficult to find in the future: Veteran Wisdom For New Players.



That had some really great tips on it! Thank you for pointing that out, I didn't see it!





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