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Darkness Eternal
post Jul 31 2013, 02:30 AM
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QUOTE(Black Hand @ Jul 31 2013, 02:26 AM) *

QUOTE(Darkness Eternal @ Jul 30 2013, 06:22 PM) *

QUOTE(King Coin @ Jul 31 2013, 12:42 AM) *


It doesn’t all have to make sense either. How can Aravi be in Skyrim when the events of that game happen 200 years in the future from the events in Oblivion? They can’t really, so I ignore that little detail.

I always wondered this but you pretty much cleared it in your Aravi thread. I'm totally the opposite. I MUST come up with reasons my characters live that long otherwise I'll beat myself over it tongue.gif


Dragon Breaks.

Daedric Interference.

Vampirism.

Corpus 'Curse/Blessing'

Telvanni Magicks.

CHIM.

I could go on.

Vampirism and Lycanthropy and Daedric interference mostly. The rest are, eh, a real head-scratcher.


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And sleep as I in childhood sweetly slept,
Untroubling and untroubled where I lie
The grass below—above the vaulted sky.”
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post Jul 31 2013, 02:30 AM
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You guys do realize the Nerevarine gains biological immortality and immunity to disease in MW, yes? And those events were six years prior to the events of OB.

No Dragon Break needed there.

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post Jul 31 2013, 02:33 AM
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QUOTE(Black Hand @ Jul 31 2013, 02:30 AM) *

You guys do realize the Nerevarine gains biological immortality and immunity to disease in MW, yes? And those events were six years prior to the events of OB.

No Dragon Break needed there.

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Yes. In fact, isn't your character in the RP like this?


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I long for scenes where man hath never trod
A place where woman never smiled or wept
There to abide with my Creator, God,
And sleep as I in childhood sweetly slept,
Untroubling and untroubled where I lie
The grass below—above the vaulted sky.”
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post Jul 31 2013, 02:36 AM
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QUOTE(Elisabeth Hollow @ Jul 30 2013, 08:27 PM) *

Because we said so is good enough for me.

Yep. This.


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post Jul 31 2013, 02:38 AM
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Ahhhhh. My favorite subject.

Teh Dragon Break!!!

In Daggerfall, there were six alternate endings that the player was free too choose from.

Now, this was TES2, so how could they possibly incorporate all six endings into TES3: Morrowind?

WITH A DRAGON BREAK!

Akatosh= The Dragon God of time. 'Break' time, and you 'break' the Dragon. A Dragon Break.

The book the 'Warp in the West' appearing first in Morrowind, and OB and Skyrim, recounts how stuff just all happened simultaneously. That is, all six endings happened side by side. The event of the Totem being used broke the dragon, and Akatosh has to mend time.

What happens is that stuff gets rearranged and Time, is never quite the same again.

Also: Lorkhan is Akatosh. WHAAAA?! Aedra and Daedra are quite literally their spheres. Akatosh is Time Itself.

Lorkhan is Space itself.

Space and Time are inexorably connected. Yet there is a dichotomy.

Short Version: Retconning to butcher your own lore to make a game that's interesting.

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Yes. In fact, isn't your character in the RP like this?


Precisely!
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post Jul 31 2013, 02:42 AM
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QUOTE(Black Hand @ Jul 31 2013, 02:38 AM) *

-Snip Snip-

Ah, I remember the confusing conversations we had in the Bethesda Lore Forum. One of the popular subjects was CHIM and the Dragon Break and contraversial for Bethesda's meddling. It all spends my head into a spin.


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I long for scenes where man hath never trod
A place where woman never smiled or wept
There to abide with my Creator, God,
And sleep as I in childhood sweetly slept,
Untroubling and untroubled where I lie
The grass below—above the vaulted sky.”
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post Jul 31 2013, 02:44 AM
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QUOTE(Darkness Eternal @ Jul 30 2013, 06:42 PM) *

Ah, I remember the confusing conversations we had in the Bethesda Lore Forum. One of the popular subjects was CHIM and the Dragon Break and contraversial for Bethesda's meddling. It all spends my head into a spin.


I am an Unofficial Loremaster™

And I can answer all your questions.
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post Jul 31 2013, 02:47 AM
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QUOTE(Black Hand @ Jul 31 2013, 02:44 AM) *

QUOTE(Darkness Eternal @ Jul 30 2013, 06:42 PM) *

Ah, I remember the confusing conversations we had in the Bethesda Lore Forum. One of the popular subjects was CHIM and the Dragon Break and contraversial for Bethesda's meddling. It all spends my head into a spin.


I am an Unofficial Loremaster™

And I can answer all your questions.

Be ready to have your inbox spammed.

And as for Grits, I'm going to post a Lycus streaking update. Just figuring out how I can make it work.


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I long for scenes where man hath never trod
A place where woman never smiled or wept
There to abide with my Creator, God,
And sleep as I in childhood sweetly slept,
Untroubling and untroubled where I lie
The grass below—above the vaulted sky.”
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post Jul 31 2013, 02:48 AM
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QUOTE(Black Hand @ Jul 30 2013, 08:44 PM) *

I am an Unofficial Loremaster™

And I can answer all your questions.

In another thread please.


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post Jul 31 2013, 02:48 AM
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QUOTE(Darkness Eternal @ Jul 30 2013, 06:47 PM) *

Be ready to have your inbox spammed.


With my new 50,000 message capacity, I stand ready.

BRING IT ON!!

QUOTE(King Coin @ Jul 30 2013, 06:48 PM) *

In another thread please.



What he said. Sorry, got carried away.

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post Jul 31 2013, 02:49 AM
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QUOTE(King Coin @ Jul 31 2013, 02:48 AM) *

QUOTE(Black Hand @ Jul 30 2013, 08:44 PM) *

I am an Unofficial Loremaster™

And I can answer all your questions.

In another thread please.

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That's what PM's are for, King Coin . . .

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I long for scenes where man hath never trod
A place where woman never smiled or wept
There to abide with my Creator, God,
And sleep as I in childhood sweetly slept,
Untroubling and untroubled where I lie
The grass below—above the vaulted sky.”
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post Jul 31 2013, 02:51 AM
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I think a lore thread would be cool.


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post Jul 31 2013, 02:54 AM
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QUOTE(Elisabeth Hollow @ Jul 30 2013, 06:51 PM) *

I think a lore thread would be cool.


Challenge accepted!....what forum though? Fan Fiction?
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post Jul 31 2013, 02:54 AM
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QUOTE(Black Hand @ Jul 31 2013, 02:54 AM) *

QUOTE(Elisabeth Hollow @ Jul 30 2013, 06:51 PM) *

I think a lore thread would be cool.


Challenge accepted!....what forum though? Fan Fiction?

General discussion, I believe. Oblivion or Skyrim forums.


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A place where woman never smiled or wept
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And sleep as I in childhood sweetly slept,
Untroubling and untroubled where I lie
The grass below—above the vaulted sky.”
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post Jul 31 2013, 03:36 AM
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Maybe General RPG Discussion since it covers all of the games? I would love a lore thread.


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post Jul 31 2013, 04:06 AM
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QUOTE(Grits @ Jul 30 2013, 07:36 PM) *

Maybe General RPG Discussion since it covers all of the games? I would love a lore thread.



Perfect Suggestion!

http://chorrol.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=5432
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post Jul 31 2013, 04:10 AM
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I edited Lycus' post a bit. He won't be streaking. ohmy.gif


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I long for scenes where man hath never trod
A place where woman never smiled or wept
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And sleep as I in childhood sweetly slept,
Untroubling and untroubled where I lie
The grass below—above the vaulted sky.”
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post Jul 31 2013, 04:31 AM
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Like I said, I'll play it Grits's way, no problems. Don't understand it, but I'm not going to try to weed through the convoluted explanations, lol. It doesn't matter, just feels really odd.


How our characters warp into the realm has nothing to do with this, THAT is perfectly understandable. Our characters come from all different times and places, that is expected. But till now, once they arrived they were there in total; if they left the inn for whatever reason, they were actually gone from it during that period (like with the vampire quest).


To me it feels like an odd break in the flow of both storylines.

Abiene had a sense of concern/urgency/and priority when she entered the inn; went in knowing it was imperative they move quickly. She hurried to treat Lleris, then was going to try to reach Darnand. She even mentioned to Aravi that has committed herself to be rescuing a friend who is in a dire situation.

Then suddenly time stops; she has unlimited time to linger at the inn and hang out or handle low priority tasks as if she has no where important to be.

Then at some point she is suddenly going to have to act urgent and hurry out to join the rescue party like it is a dire task, which will feel odd after all that time spent idling.


Like I said before, this is just my POV and is worth zip, just saying it so you understand where I'm coming from. I don't care how it is done, just as long as we all have fun doing it. I always "go with the flow," but do ask if I don't understand something.


For as little planning as we've put into this triple questline; it is amazing this is the only hiccup so far.



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post Jul 31 2013, 09:09 PM
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Edit.

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I long for scenes where man hath never trod
A place where woman never smiled or wept
There to abide with my Creator, God,
And sleep as I in childhood sweetly slept,
Untroubling and untroubled where I lie
The grass below—above the vaulted sky.”
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post Aug 1 2013, 09:09 PM
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Cloud Top: I just brought Kip’s riders up the mountain, I hope that’s OK. (I'm never sure how evenings are going to go in Grits World. Argh.)


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