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Callidus Thorn
This morning we had snow! biggrin.gif

But it was already melting by the time I got up, and now it's all gone sad.gif
Acadian
QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Jan 17 2016, 04:19 AM) *

This morning we had snow! biggrin.gif

But it was already melting by the time I got up, and now it's all gone sad.gif


But that's perfect! Just a brief pretty 'picture' to look at then disappearing before causing much problem. tongue.gif That reminds me that a few weeks ago, I woke up to a white Christmas with a solid quarter inch (that's about half a centimeter, mirocu) on the ground. But it did cover the ground and stuck around until mid morning. biggrin.gif
mirocu
Youīre wrong, Acadian. Snow coming and going like that is not perfect, itīs actually what causes problems (rapid changes). If it sticks around week after week then everythingīs just fine wink.gif



And yes, I AM HOME NOW! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif



(thanks for the translation btw tongue.gif )
Callidus Thorn
QUOTE(Acadian @ Jan 17 2016, 12:25 PM) *

QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Jan 17 2016, 04:19 AM) *

This morning we had snow! biggrin.gif

But it was already melting by the time I got up, and now it's all gone sad.gif


But that's perfect! Just a brief pretty 'picture' to look at then disappearing before causing much problem. tongue.gif That reminds me that a few weeks ago, I woke up to a white Christmas with a solid quarter inch (that's about half a centimeter, mirocu) on the ground. But it did cover the ground and stuck around until mid morning. biggrin.gif


I prefer walking on snow to simply looking at it. I love the way fresh snow crunches underfoot, so it sucks it wasn't around for long enough.
tegeus-Cromis
I've seen six snowflakes so far this year, none last year. Yes, I've taken to counting them individually. I really wouldn't mind some full-on snow, I like what it does to the light. Down here in the middle of SE England, we've had abnormally grey skies for months, far fewer sunny intervals than usual.
mirocu
Sorry you donīt get more snow sad.gif
tegeus-Cromis
QUOTE(mirocu @ Jan 17 2016, 11:40 PM) *

Sorry you donīt get more snow sad.gif


Might be lucky, up to London next weekend, they've got a bit right now, maybe it'll last. Lots of snow in Britain right now, just not down here in Hampshire, just boring drizzly southeasterly winds. Up to 4cm fall (which isn't going to impress any Canadians or Scandinavians here, I know) in the Midlands, so at least I know where to go to find it...
hazmick
Got a little bit of snow here. Roads are all clear but the fields are all white, just how everyone likes it.
tegeus-Cromis
QUOTE(hazmick @ Jan 18 2016, 01:01 AM) *

Got a little bit of snow here. Roads are all clear but the fields are all white, just how everyone likes it.


Well, I didn't envy you northerners over that recent flooding, my sympathies - we barely got sideswiped - so maybe it's fair compensation. (Well, you've done your bit, probably Somerset's turn to get inundated again next time around...)

[Yes, it's the British weather smalltalk interlude. Actually, we can do this forever, you know.]
mirocu
QUOTE(tegeus-Cromis @ Jan 18 2016, 02:16 AM) *

[Yes, it's the British weather smalltalk interlude. Actually, we can do this forever, you know.]

*grabs popcorn*



-What? Itīs not only for heated discussions, you know laugh.gif
mALX


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mirocu
-Hey, Michael! Donīt hog the popcorn bag! laugh.gif
mALX
QUOTE(mirocu @ Jan 18 2016, 03:08 AM) *

-Hey, Michael! Donīt hog the popcorn bag! laugh.gif




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mirocu
Yeah, ok. Donīt want it now, you can keep it wacko.gif

mALX
QUOTE(mirocu @ Jan 18 2016, 03:27 AM) *

Yeah, ok. Donīt want it now, you can keep it wacko.gif



BWAAHAA!!!!



tegeus-Cromis
Mock us if you will, but beware, lest our sky gods smite thee with thunderbolts adopt a condescendingly sarcastic tone of voice when addressing you.
mirocu
I didnīt mean it as a mock. After all, we talk about weather as much as you do tongue.gif
mALX


Gaaaah! I thought we were just talking about eating popcorn and watching the conversations! I categorically deny mocking anyone for discussing weather, I was actually enjoying everyone's hunt for snow while I am hunting for any vestige of warmth, lol.


tegeus-Cromis
indifferent.gif Oh dear. My bad. That post was meant to have a smiley on the end. Here, paste this one in - wink.gif

smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif

mALX
QUOTE(tegeus-Cromis @ Jan 18 2016, 11:02 AM) *

indifferent.gif Oh dear. My bad. That post was meant to have a smiley on the end. Here, paste this one in - wink.gif

smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif




"WHEW"


*mALX breathes sigh of relief*


Never want to offend anyone smile.gif



mirocu
QUOTE(tegeus-Cromis @ Jan 18 2016, 05:02 PM) *

indifferent.gif Oh dear. My bad. That post was meant to have a smiley on the end. Here, paste this one in - wink.gif

smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif

No worries, I saw the jest smile.gif
tegeus-Cromis
QUOTE(mALX @ Jan 18 2016, 06:14 PM) *

Never want to offend anyone smile.gif


No worries on that score. I seem to be quite good at giving offence right now, though. Must be the time of year (or the damn weather!!!). It'll pass, I'm sure.

Oh, you've got an inn mod. Will give it a go, let you know if it clashes with anything else I've got installed.

[EDIT: Ah, not uploaded yet. Anyway, I hope all is going well with you, mALX, and we get to see it soon, sounds excellent. If it clashes with UL Chorrol Hinterland, let me know, I've done a few patches for the UL crew, one of them round Chorrol, shouldn't be a big deal to do one for your inn.]
mALX
QUOTE(tegeus-Cromis @ Jan 18 2016, 12:25 PM) *

QUOTE(mALX @ Jan 18 2016, 06:14 PM) *

Never want to offend anyone smile.gif


No worries on that score. I seem to be quite good at giving offence right now, though. Must be the time of year (or the damn weather!!!). It'll pass, I'm sure.

Oh, you've got an inn mod. Will give it a go, let you know if it clashes with anything else I've got installed.

[EDIT: Ah, not uploaded yet. Anyway, I hope all is going well with you, mALX, and we get to see it soon, sounds excellent. If it clashes with UL Chorrol Hinterland, let me know, I've done a few patches for the UL crew, one of them round Chorrol, shouldn't be a big deal to do one for your inn.]



Oh, the Inn mod was out years ago, I pulled it to do some upgrades and got ill, never was able to finish the upgrades. My PC crashed, and I lost all the files now.

It was a lot of fun, the NPC's all had unique dialogue and AI; the Inn was wired for sound as the Player walked through it so they would hear different things at different places, etc. (Example: Outside you could hear the Weynon Priory bells chime the hour, sometimes you could hear the monks singing in the Priory while outside; the Inn regulars snored when they slept; a dog barked in the distance when you went into your suite; birds tweeted in the morning outside; music played in the tavern area (causing the staff to dance occasionally as they worked); etc).

Everything worked well, and it was a lot of fun for everyone playing the RP to "meet at." (plus gave the player a nice home with safe storage; a small inheritance quest; and a very small hidden treasure).

I added a traveling gypsy caravan that showed up on weekends and sold stuff out of tents on the road between the Chorrol South gate and the Weynon Priory that had a bard and the gypsies randomly danced to the bard's lute playing - and surprisingly enough, the members of the Weynon Priory spontaneously visited the stands and ate with the gypsies!

Also, the Countess Leyawiin and her retinue; Honditar; and the girl that runs the Chorrol stables all stopped into the Inn courtyard and hung out for short visits on their trips through that area - also spontaneous, I didn't alter their AI packages at all!

I LOVED that mod, and miss playing it.



tegeus-Cromis
QUOTE(mALX @ Jan 18 2016, 07:48 PM) *


Oh, the Inn mod was out years ago, I pulled it to do some upgrades and got ill, never was able to finish the upgrades. My PC crashed, and I lost all the files now.



Oh, that's truly awful. Might not Nexus still hold an old copy somewhere - or maybe you could get a copy back from someone who downloaded it previously? It's a real shame, it sounds brilliant from your description, I love it when a mod just spontaneously fits in like yours did.
ghastley
QUOTE(tegeus-Cromis @ Jan 18 2016, 01:13 PM) *

QUOTE(mALX @ Jan 18 2016, 07:48 PM) *


Oh, the Inn mod was out years ago, I pulled it to do some upgrades and got ill, never was able to finish the upgrades. My PC crashed, and I lost all the files now.



Oh, that's truly awful. Might not Nexus still hold an old copy somewhere - or maybe you could get a copy back from someone who downloaded it previously? It's a real shame, it sounds brilliant from your description, I love it when a mod just spontaneously fits in like yours did.

The Wobbly Goblet/Lucky Mudcrab is still on the Nexus,(but missing its file, I just noticed, I'll see what I still have on my system).

I don't know if she incorporated any of the add-ons that were made for it, such as the alterable poster, and the stealable clothes, but you can still download those from the mod thread here.

Edit. I poked around and found a version of it. Download here. I'm not sure what version it was, as it didn't have a version in the file header. It's not the latest, as it still uses the Wobbly Goblet name.
mALX


Yes, Ghastley made some hugely awesome additions to the mod - the Player could pick up a piece of chalk and actually paint on a certain poster on the wall; and Ghastley also made a way to take some of the waitresses clothing off for fun! Ghastley made some huge contributions to the mod; like the gorgeous signs and fixing the errors that were keeping the sound files from playing properly, etc.

And it became a "thing to do" for everyone playing the mod to pose their character in the wine vat in some funny pose and post it; I think Grits's "Jerric" won the prize for the funnest pose, lol.

That place was a blast to play! I miss it!


ghastley
mALX, see my edit above. You don't have to miss it completely, just the more recent stuff.

I also found the new sign - PM me if you want that. Since the copy of the mod I had was still WG, it may not be useful to anyone else.
mALX
QUOTE(ghastley @ Jan 18 2016, 02:06 PM) *

mALX, see my edit above. You don't have to miss it completely, just the more recent stuff.

I also found the new sign - PM me if you want that. Since the copy of the mod I had was still WG, it may not be useful to anyone else.



Oh, thank you THANK YOU Ghastley!!!! Yes, I would love the new sign too! Thank you so much! I'm tickled to know Clark still hangs out there, too!

mirocu
I now imagine mALX hopping up and down in excitement like she just remembered where she put her winter supply of nuts biggrin.gif
mALX
QUOTE(tegeus-Cromis @ Jan 18 2016, 01:13 PM) *

QUOTE(mALX @ Jan 18 2016, 07:48 PM) *


Oh, the Inn mod was out years ago, I pulled it to do some upgrades and got ill, never was able to finish the upgrades. My PC crashed, and I lost all the files now.



Oh, that's truly awful. Might not Nexus still hold an old copy somewhere - or maybe you could get a copy back from someone who downloaded it previously? It's a real shame, it sounds brilliant from your description, I love it when a mod just spontaneously fits in like yours did.



I love it when that happens with mods too, it makes them so much more fun to play when spontaneous things just occur.

I made about 30 mods, that is the only one I uploaded. Most were improvements on the Player houses or towns to suit my own taste; the rest were just plain fun stuff I wanted in my game. (A bad-tempered mouse follower; a testy fishing pole that made fishing sounds; "Uncle" Crassius Curio bringing his particular fun to Cyrodiil with his art exhibition; boat trips that take you all up and down the Rumare and Niben bays; tables preset with card games or food; a training academy for assassins and mercenaries; etc.




ghastley
Stop press! This may be a later version The Wobbly Goblet Inn RP Mod-43625-1-77

I had it in my Bash Installers folder, but not installed. If my memory serves, there was a clash with some change I'd made for Clark's game, and I hadn't got round to reconciling it.

LuckyMudcrabSign
tegeus-Cromis
QUOTE(mALX @ Jan 18 2016, 09:26 PM) *


I made about 30 mods, that is the only one I uploaded. Most were improvements on the Player houses or towns to suit my own taste; the rest were just plain fun stuff I wanted in my game. (A bad-tempered mouse follower; a testy fishing pole that made fishing sounds; "Uncle" Crassius Curio bringing his particular fun to Cyrodiil with his art exhibition; boat trips that take you all up and down the Rumare and Niben bays; tables preset with card games or food; a training academy for assassins and mercenaries; etc.


Oh, wish you'd uploaded more, I like this sort of 'ambient' mod, sounds like you have a talent for them. I suppose you could have merged a bunch of them to save on .esps too...

Anyway, just grabbed Ghastley's download, installing now, looking forward to first visit. (I have an unpublished inn mod, but promise not to steal your ideas. Actually mine is bogged down as a result of the attached quests...)

EDIT: OK, things move fast round here. Next version...
mALX
QUOTE(ghastley @ Jan 18 2016, 02:34 PM) *

Stop press! This may be a later version The Wobbly Goblet Inn RP Mod-43625-1-77

I had it in my Bash Installers folder, but not installed. If my memory serves, there was a clash with some change I'd made for Clark's game, and I hadn't got round to reconciling it.

LuckyMudcrabSign



WOO HOO! Thank you so much Ghastley!





QUOTE(tegeus-Cromis @ Jan 18 2016, 02:41 PM) *

QUOTE(mALX @ Jan 18 2016, 09:26 PM) *


I made about 30 mods, that is the only one I uploaded. Most were improvements on the Player houses or towns to suit my own taste; the rest were just plain fun stuff I wanted in my game. (A bad-tempered mouse follower; a testy fishing pole that made fishing sounds; "Uncle" Crassius Curio bringing his particular fun to Cyrodiil with his art exhibition; boat trips that take you all up and down the Rumare and Niben bays; tables preset with card games or food; a training academy for assassins and mercenaries; etc.


Oh, wish you'd uploaded more, I like this sort of 'ambient' mod, sounds like you have a talent for them. I suppose you could have merged a bunch of them to save on .esps too...

Anyway, just grabbed Ghastley's download, installing now, looking forward to first visit. (I have an unpublished inn mod, but promise not to steal your ideas. Actually mine is bogged down as a result of the attached quests...)

EDIT: OK, things move fast round here. Next version...



You are more than welcome to use my ideas in your mod if you give me credit for the original in your mod's credit list; but check the description page on my mod sheet on Nexus for credits in case something you want belongs to someone other than me. You'll have to ask those people permission for their work if you want to use it.



tegeus-Cromis
QUOTE(mALX @ Jan 18 2016, 10:04 PM) *

You are more than welcome to use my ideas in your mod if you give me credit for the original in your mod's credit list; but check the description page on my mod sheet on Nexus for credits in case something you want belongs to someone other than me. You'll have to ask those people permission for their work if you want to use it.


Oh, I would, of course. Anyway, just took a quick look, I like it already just for the version of the Morrowind theme. But, as I surmised, it does indeed clash badly with Unique Landscapes Chorrol Hinterland, which adds a bunch of rocks and some walls that intersect the pub. OTOH, this looks very easily patchable to me. So, if you want to re-upload it some time, I'd be happy to create a compatibility patch for you (could also do a COBL add-on, but that's really easy).
mALX
QUOTE(tegeus-Cromis @ Jan 18 2016, 03:27 PM) *

QUOTE(mALX @ Jan 18 2016, 10:04 PM) *

You are more than welcome to use my ideas in your mod if you give me credit for the original in your mod's credit list; but check the description page on my mod sheet on Nexus for credits in case something you want belongs to someone other than me. You'll have to ask those people permission for their work if you want to use it.


Oh, I would, of course. Anyway, just took a quick look, I like it already just for the version of the Morrowind theme. But, as I surmised, it does indeed clash badly with Unique Landscapes Chorrol Hinterland, which adds a bunch of rocks and some walls that intersect the pub. OTOH, this looks very easily patchable to me. So, if you want to re-upload it some time, I'd be happy to create a compatibility patch for you (could also do a COBL add-on, but that's really easy).



Thank you, that would be Awesome! I'm going to check both versions that Ghastley uploaded in the CS; if there is a difference want to use the one that is closest to the last Lucky Mudcrab update.

mirocu
Good night, you modding people, you! biggrin.gif




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tegeus-Cromis
QUOTE(mirocu @ Jan 18 2016, 11:29 PM) *

Good night, you modding people, you! biggrin.gif
sleep.gif


Sorry, Mirocu, can take this bit elsewhere... So please PM me, mALX, when you've uploaded something, I'll go with that. Can't promise it for this week, though.
mALX
QUOTE(tegeus-Cromis @ Jan 18 2016, 03:27 PM) *

QUOTE(mALX @ Jan 18 2016, 10:04 PM) *

You are more than welcome to use my ideas in your mod if you give me credit for the original in your mod's credit list; but check the description page on my mod sheet on Nexus for credits in case something you want belongs to someone other than me. You'll have to ask those people permission for their work if you want to use it.


Oh, I would, of course. Anyway, just took a quick look, I like it already just for the version of the Morrowind theme. But, as I surmised, it does indeed clash badly with Unique Landscapes Chorrol Hinterland, which adds a bunch of rocks and some walls that intersect the pub. OTOH, this looks very easily patchable to me. So, if you want to re-upload it some time, I'd be happy to create a compatibility patch for you (could also do a COBL add-on, but that's really easy).



Don't try the first link Ghastley posted; it had some LOD files bundled in it that are not part of the mod and may be what is conflicting with UL; plus it is missing several files. The second link where he has written "Stop the Presses" - that version has all the files (I think, am checking it right now); and does not have those erroneous LOD files; so may not conflict with UL.



tegeus-Cromis
QUOTE(mALX @ Jan 19 2016, 01:04 AM) *


Don't try the first link Ghastley posted; it had some LOD files bundled in it that are not part of the mod and may be what is conflicting with UL; plus it is missing several files. The second link where he has written "Stop the Presses" - that version has all the files (I think, am checking it right now); and does not have those erroneous LOD files; so may not conflict with UL.


No, it's not an LOD problem, that would only show at a distance. Though you're right, there shouldn't be LOD files present and there aren't in the second installer, as you say. I did in fact only look at the second one, and I'm afraid this is a genuine close-up clash. Patching it mostly means disabling a whole bunch of UL's assets in the area and moving a couple of walls. That's easy, but they also make some landscape edits there too. To be treated with delicacy because, in terms of landscape edits, this is close to where UL intersects with the other 800lb gorilla - Better Cities. Finally, ideally, the patch should only depend on UL, which will make it mergeable in Wrye Bash, which I think should work too.

So, I'm implying load order:

xulChorrolHinterland
...
AAAWobblyInn
...
Patch

Will have a closer look tomorrow...
mALX
QUOTE(tegeus-Cromis @ Jan 18 2016, 06:54 PM) *

QUOTE(mALX @ Jan 19 2016, 01:04 AM) *


Don't try the first link Ghastley posted; it had some LOD files bundled in it that are not part of the mod and may be what is conflicting with UL; plus it is missing several files. The second link where he has written "Stop the Presses" - that version has all the files (I think, am checking it right now); and does not have those erroneous LOD files; so may not conflict with UL.


No, it's not an LOD problem, that would only show at a distance. Though you're right, there shouldn't be LOD files present and there aren't in the second installer, as you say. I did in fact only look at the second one, and I'm afraid this is a genuine close-up clash. Patching it mostly means disabling a whole bunch of UL's assets in the area and moving a couple of walls. That's easy, but they also make some landscape edits there too. To be treated with delicacy because, in terms of landscape edits, this is close to where UL intersects with the other 800lb gorilla - Better Cities. Finally, ideally, the patch should only depend on UL, which will make it mergeable in Wrye Bash, which I think should work too.

So, I'm implying load order:

xulChorrolHinterland
...
AAAWobblyInn
...
Patch

Will have a closer look tomorrow...



This version does not have the gypsy caravan on weekends; and is the vanilla middle class version of the mod (so will look just exactly like the same Inn inside the city of Chorrol that I used as a base for the Inn).

If you prefer an upper class Inn, I made an upper class version of it = retextured the entire Inn with my own textures; added modded furniture and better food/art on the walls, a bathing room, and upgraded the basement, etc. (in the upper class version). I can redo all that if you decide you want to go through the trouble of patching it but would prefer an upper class Inn.


Upper Class entry with better food:


http://i434.photobucket.com/albums/qq67/Ma...zps8d2ef4e2.jpg




Upper Class upstairs:


http://i434.photobucket.com/albums/qq67/Ma...zpsf719642f.png



One of my card tables:


http://i434.photobucket.com/albums/qq67/Ma...zps364a7b51.png




Upper class basement:


http://i434.photobucket.com/albums/qq67/Ma...zpsfb38f6c7.png



The Gypsy Caravan:


http://i434.photobucket.com/albums/qq67/Ma...zps6a1fbe0c.png



It is just a matter of what you prefer. The reason I made the upper class one was because - the original was just so much like the Inn inside the Chorrol city walls; I felt like it should be different to explain why people would come to it rather than just go to the one inside the city.

But that said, a lot of people prefer the look of the middle class in Oblivion, so - I made both, so people could choose. I wouldn't mind redoing the retexture if someone wanted it.


tegeus-Cromis
mALX, I've PM'd you. Much to Mirocu's relief, I'll bet... smile.gif
mALX
QUOTE(tegeus-Cromis @ Jan 18 2016, 08:46 PM) *

mALX, I've PM'd you. Much to Mirocu's relief, I'll bet... smile.gif



Oh, Mirocu doesn't mind; his game is modded. I think it is pretty late where he lives laugh.gif



tegeus-Cromis
QUOTE(mALX @ Jan 19 2016, 04:00 AM) *

Oh, Mirocu doesn't mind; his game is modded. I think it is pretty late where he lives laugh.gif


V. late here too. I'm likely just finding an excuse. wink.gif

mirocu
I donīt mind at all, tegeus smile.gif Besides, itīs not my thread anyway.



Btw, I only saw 22 endorsements for your mod, mALX. Thatīs pretty low considering how many have downloaded it. People should come back to praise just as quick as they come back to complain, right? wink.gif
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You PC gamers and your mods...



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mALX


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6t9LhHz3bQ



mirocu
Random question: when did hurray become huzzah? tongue.gif
Decrepit
QUOTE(mirocu @ Jan 19 2016, 02:07 PM) *

Random question: when did hurray become huzzah? tongue.gif
By way of hurrah?
mALX
QUOTE(mirocu @ Jan 19 2016, 02:25 AM) *

I donīt mind at all, tegeus smile.gif Besides, itīs not my thread anyway.



Btw, I only saw 22 endorsements for your mod, mALX. Thatīs pretty low considering how many have downloaded it. People should come back to praise just as quick as they come back to complain, right? wink.gif



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ghastley
QUOTE(mirocu @ Jan 19 2016, 02:25 AM) *

Btw, I only saw 22 endorsements for your mod, mALX. Thatīs pretty low considering how many have downloaded it. People should come back to praise just as quick as they come back to complain, right? wink.gif


A lot depends on when endorsements were enabled. Two of mine didn't allow endorsements (because the option was broken when they were uploaded) until they'd been there for several years, collecting none. So one has something like 30 endorsements after 11,000 downloads!
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