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Callidus Thorn
QUOTE(Elisabeth Hollow @ Jul 7 2015, 09:29 AM) *

Also crazy stalker chick found out where I lived, after NEVER MENTIONING IT ANYWHERE. She sent me a letter, then started messaging my husband.


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Holy [censored], Liz, that's downright freaky.
mALX
QUOTE(Elisabeth Hollow @ Jul 7 2015, 04:29 AM) *

Also crazy stalker chick found out where I lived, after NEVER MENTIONING IT ANYWHERE. She sent me a letter, then started messaging my husband.


Are you sure it isn't someone who already knows you? It could be someone you worked with or something. There is an agency you can contact if you are being cyber stalked; it is a federal crime.




QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Jul 7 2015, 04:01 AM) *

Mornin' all



G'Morning!



Elisabeth Hollow
QUOTE(mALX @ Jul 7 2015, 12:41 PM) *

QUOTE(Elisabeth Hollow @ Jul 7 2015, 04:29 AM) *

Also crazy stalker chick found out where I lived, after NEVER MENTIONING IT ANYWHERE. She sent me a letter, then started messaging my husband.


Are you sure it isn't someone who already knows you? It could be someone you worked with or something. There is an agency you can contact if you are being cyber stalked; it is a federal crime.

What do you mean someone who knows me? I know exactly who it is. We used to live with her.
Darkness Eternal
Liz do you have a weapon at home?

A firearm?
Elisabeth Hollow
QUOTE(Darkness Eternal @ Jul 7 2015, 02:30 PM) *

Liz do you have a weapon at home?

A firearm?

Several. I collect knives and we have a gun cabinet. She isn't threatening me, though. I cut our friendship off after she began calling the police on our roommate we had after her and abusing them emotionally and physically. (we didn't find out about the abuse until after they had broken up and she stayed with her friend and he stayed with us)

She started coming to our apartment and just waiting. Not doing anything. Sometimes we disnt even know she was there until our roommate came inside and was like "Uh, y'all know she's here, right?"

We moved like three months after that and I switched jobs AND stopped working at the new job. She showed up to my husband's last show with his band and left once she saw how many people were with me. Then she started accusing me of stalking HER.

She even posted "proof."

Which was a Canadian IP on her IP tracker... I live in Texas. Someone else was looking at her blog and she swore for months it was me and trying to guilt me into contacting her. I never have except for once to tell her to leave me alone. I have her blocked on every social site and changed my phone number. No mutual friends on Facebook. She still found me. But all she does is tell me she's changed now. I don't care. I just want her to leave me alone and stop tracking me down.
Callidus Thorn
QUOTE(mALX @ Jul 7 2015, 06:41 PM) *

QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Jul 7 2015, 04:01 AM) *

Mornin' all

G'Morning!


Heh, it's evening now mALX! You gotta move with the timezones rollinglaugh.gif

QUOTE(Elisabeth Hollow @ Jul 7 2015, 08:55 PM) *

QUOTE(Darkness Eternal @ Jul 7 2015, 02:30 PM) *

Liz do you have a weapon at home?

A firearm?

Several. I collect knives and we have a gun cabinet. She isn't threatening me, though. I cut our friendship off after she began calling the police on our roommate we had after her and abusing them emotionally and physically. (we didn't find out about the abuse until after they had broken up and she stayed with her friend and he stayed with us)

She started coming to our apartment and just waiting. Not doing anything. Sometimes we disnt even know she was there until our roommate came inside and was like "Uh, y'all know she's here, right?"

We moved like three months after that and I switched jobs AND stopped working at the new job. She showed up to my husband's last show with his band and left once she saw how many people were with me. Then she started accusing me of stalking HER.

She even posted "proof."

Which was a Canadian IP on her IP tracker... I live in Texas. Someone else was looking at her blog and she swore for months it was me and trying to guilt me into contacting her. I never have except for once to tell her to leave me alone. I have her blocked on every social site and changed my phone number. No mutual friends on Facebook. She still found me. But all she does is tell me she's changed now. I don't care. I just want her to leave me alone and stop tracking me down.


Wow. So she's just full-blown bat [censored] crazy then.
mALX
QUOTE(Elisabeth Hollow @ Jul 7 2015, 02:49 PM) *

QUOTE(mALX @ Jul 7 2015, 12:41 PM) *

QUOTE(Elisabeth Hollow @ Jul 7 2015, 04:29 AM) *

Also crazy stalker chick found out where I lived, after NEVER MENTIONING IT ANYWHERE. She sent me a letter, then started messaging my husband.


Are you sure it isn't someone who already knows you? It could be someone you worked with or something. There is an agency you can contact if you are being cyber stalked; it is a federal crime.

What do you mean someone who knows me? I know exactly who it is. We used to live with her.



Oh, okay. I thought it was someone from the internet. Sorry.





QUOTE(Elisabeth Hollow @ Jul 7 2015, 03:55 PM) *

QUOTE(Darkness Eternal @ Jul 7 2015, 02:30 PM) *

Liz do you have a weapon at home?

A firearm?

Several. I collect knives and we have a gun cabinet. She isn't threatening me, though. I cut our friendship off after she began calling the police on our roommate we had after her and abusing them emotionally and physically. (we didn't find out about the abuse until after they had broken up and she stayed with her friend and he stayed with us)

She started coming to our apartment and just waiting. Not doing anything. Sometimes we disnt even know she was there until our roommate came inside and was like "Uh, y'all know she's here, right?"

We moved like three months after that and I switched jobs AND stopped working at the new job. She showed up to my husband's last show with his band and left once she saw how many people were with me. Then she started accusing me of stalking HER.

She even posted "proof."

Which was a Canadian IP on her IP tracker... I live in Texas. Someone else was looking at her blog and she swore for months it was me and trying to guilt me into contacting her. I never have except for once to tell her to leave me alone. I have her blocked on every social site and changed my phone number. No mutual friends on Facebook. She still found me. But all she does is tell me she's changed now. I don't care. I just want her to leave me alone and stop tracking me down.



Sounds like a nut!




QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Jul 7 2015, 04:02 PM) *

Heh, it's evening now mALX! You gotta move with the timezones rollinglaugh.gif



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Elisabeth Hollow
QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Jul 7 2015, 03:02 PM) *
t
Wow. So she's just full-blown bat [censored] crazy then.

I told you this months ago XD

And it's alright, mALX.

My autocorrect tried to correct your name to "maps" loo
Callidus Thorn
QUOTE(Elisabeth Hollow @ Jul 7 2015, 09:12 PM) *

QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Jul 7 2015, 03:02 PM) *
t
Wow. So she's just full-blown bat [censored] crazy then.

I told you this months ago XD


Yeah, I remember you showing screenies of her "proof". XD

But it's not like it gets any better with time laugh.gif

But how did she manage to find you?
mALX
QUOTE(Elisabeth Hollow @ Jul 7 2015, 04:12 PM) *

QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Jul 7 2015, 03:02 PM) *
t
Wow. So she's just full-blown bat [censored] crazy then.

I told you this months ago XD

And it's alright, mALX.

My autocorrect tried to correct your name to "maps" loo



That autocorrect is better than mine then, mine takes real words and makes them into gibberish, lol.

Elisabeth Hollow
QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Jul 7 2015, 03:14 PM) *


Yeah, I remember you showing screenies of her "proof". XD

But it's not like it gets any better with time laugh.gif

But how did she manage to find you?

You're asking the exact same question I am.
mALX
QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Jul 7 2015, 04:14 PM) *

QUOTE(Elisabeth Hollow @ Jul 7 2015, 09:12 PM) *

QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Jul 7 2015, 03:02 PM) *
t
Wow. So she's just full-blown bat [censored] crazy then.

I told you this months ago XD


Yeah, I remember you showing screenies of her "proof". XD

But it's not like it gets any better with time laugh.gif

But how did she manage to find you?



If this person lives in the same town or area, it would be easy; especially if they are living at her husband's parents house and his last name is the same as theirs. You can hunt anyone down without too much trouble if you actually know them/know their names and especially if you know where they lived at any given time no matter how long ago in the past it was.





Elisabeth Hollow
QUOTE(mALX @ Jul 7 2015, 03:31 PM) *

If this person lives in the same town or area, it would be easy; especially if they are living at her husband's parents house and his last name is the same as theirs. You can hunt anyone down without too much trouble if you actually know them/know their names and especially if you know where they lived at any given time no matter how long ago in the past it was.

But that's the thing, not only are there at least twenty people in this area with my husband's last name, the last time she was here was six or seven years ago. She's switched computers, emails, Facebook's, moved like six times, etc. That is a lot of effort just to find me and tell me "BTW I'm on medication now."

Like

I've moved AWAY from her and changed EVERYTHING. Obviously I do not want her to contact me. My husband has had to block her on everything as well. We were gonna leave the state until we ran into trouble and couldn't afford the move.
Callidus Thorn
QUOTE(Elisabeth Hollow @ Jul 7 2015, 09:30 PM) *

QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Jul 7 2015, 03:14 PM) *


Yeah, I remember you showing screenies of her "proof". XD

But it's not like it gets any better with time laugh.gif

But how did she manage to find you?

You're asking the exact same question I am.


She must know someone who knows you. Or someone who knows someone who knows you.
Elisabeth Hollow
Probably. She's only been to our house once before. I used to drive to her mother's house every day and I don't remember where she lives.
Callidus Thorn
I take it that there's nothing the police can do?
Elisabeth Hollow
Not until she's been violent physically. And then only when she's been violent AGAIN can I issue a restraining order. But since everything documented is benign, what would they do? They'll just tell me to call them when she's hurt me.
Callidus Thorn
QUOTE(Elisabeth Hollow @ Jul 7 2015, 10:00 PM) *

Not until she's been violent physically. And then only when she's been violent AGAIN can I issue a restraining order. But since everything documented is benign, what would they do? They'll just tell me to call them when she's hurt me.


So even though it's clear she's stalking you, nothing can be done until she attacks you or your family? And a second instance is required for a restraining order? That is so [censored] up.
mALX
QUOTE(Elisabeth Hollow @ Jul 7 2015, 04:35 PM) *

QUOTE(mALX @ Jul 7 2015, 03:31 PM) *

If this person lives in the same town or area, it would be easy; especially if they are living at her husband's parents house and his last name is the same as theirs. You can hunt anyone down without too much trouble if you actually know them/know their names and especially if you know where they lived at any given time no matter how long ago in the past it was.

But that's the thing, not only are there at least twenty people in this area with my husband's last name, the last time she was here was six or seven years ago. She's switched computers, emails, Facebook's, moved like six times, etc. That is a lot of effort just to find me and tell me "BTW I'm on medication now."

Like

I've moved AWAY from her and changed EVERYTHING. Obviously I do not want her to contact me. My husband has had to block her on everything as well. We were gonna leave the state until we ran into trouble and couldn't afford the move.



I'd get a restraining order with a "Chinese Wall." That means they can't contact you via friends; via the internet; no contact whatsoever in any way at all or they go to jail.




ghastley
QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Jul 7 2015, 05:04 PM) *


So even though it's clear she's stalking you, nothing can be done until she attacks you or your family? And a second instance is required for a restraining order? That is so [censored] up.


No, it has to be that way, or Liz would be the one that's subject to the restraining order. Because people that weird will tell the cops you're stalking them.
mALX
QUOTE(Elisabeth Hollow @ Jul 7 2015, 05:00 PM) *

Not until she's been violent physically. And then only when she's been violent AGAIN can I issue a restraining order. But since everything documented is benign, what would they do? They'll just tell me to call them when she's hurt me.



Try the 4th Circuit Court instead of the Criminal Court. And go through a Court Advocate if you can, they usually know a few loops to slide you through the process and around those kind of restrictions - especially if you are being stalked. You might be able to get an ex parte order, but make sure they attach a Chinese Wall to it.




Callidus Thorn
QUOTE(ghastley @ Jul 7 2015, 10:24 PM) *

QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Jul 7 2015, 05:04 PM) *


So even though it's clear she's stalking you, nothing can be done until she attacks you or your family? And a second instance is required for a restraining order? That is so [censored] up.


No, it has to be that way, or Liz would be the one that's subject to the restraining order. Because people that weird will tell the cops you're stalking them.


But it means that it's basically legal to stalk someone provided you're not violent.

How exactly is that not [censored] up?
Elisabeth Hollow
I don't have any money to pay for anything. Even if it was free, we only have one car and a court date would take away from my husband working that we need to pay for stuff.

I'm hoping that she's gotten the hint. Plus we are about to move anyways.
mALX
QUOTE(Elisabeth Hollow @ Jul 7 2015, 05:44 PM) *

I don't have any money to pay for anything. Even if it was free, we only have one car and a court date would take away from my husband working that we need to pay for stuff.

I'm hoping that she's gotten the hint. Plus we are about to move anyways.



If she has written letters, then you have proof she is doing it. Keep those letters for future reference if she keeps up the harassment, every bit of documentation helps in a court of law.




QUOTE(ghastley @ Jul 7 2015, 05:24 PM) *

QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Jul 7 2015, 05:04 PM) *


So even though it's clear she's stalking you, nothing can be done until she attacks you or your family? And a second instance is required for a restraining order? That is so [censored] up.


No, it has to be that way, or Liz would be the one that's subject to the restraining order. Because people that weird will tell the cops you're stalking them.



Exactly why she should keep any letters that person sends her and also any proof of what she has done to avoid this person.



Darkness Eternal
QUOTE(Elisabeth Hollow @ Jul 7 2015, 08:55 PM) *

QUOTE(Darkness Eternal @ Jul 7 2015, 02:30 PM) *

Liz do you have a weapon at home?

A firearm?

Several. I collect knives and we have a gun cabinet. She isn't threatening me, though. I cut our friendship off after she began calling the police on our roommate we had after her and abusing them emotionally and physically. (we didn't find out about the abuse until after they had broken up and she stayed with her friend and he stayed with us)

She started coming to our apartment and just waiting. Not doing anything. Sometimes we disnt even know she was there until our roommate came inside and was like "Uh, y'all know she's here, right?"

We moved like three months after that and I switched jobs AND stopped working at the new job. She showed up to my husband's last show with his band and left once she saw how many people were with me. Then she started accusing me of stalking HER.

She even posted "proof."

Which was a Canadian IP on her IP tracker... I live in Texas. Someone else was looking at her blog and she swore for months it was me and trying to guilt me into contacting her. I never have except for once to tell her to leave me alone. I have her blocked on every social site and changed my phone number. No mutual friends on Facebook. She still found me. But all she does is tell me she's changed now. I don't care. I just want her to leave me alone and stop tracking me down.


Wow. That's a terrible situation to be in. She sounds disturbed. I hope it all works well. Sometimes in life we just come across these types of people.
Callidus Thorn
On another note, my insomnia seems to have buggered off.
mirocu
Nice to see you posting, Liz! smile.gif


Was out yesterday helping a guy build a small leisure house or whatever you yanks call it tongue.gif We got the frame up and today the others are doing the roof. I didnīt come twice because Iīm not a postman cool.gif
Elisabeth Hollow
QUOTE(mirocu @ Jul 8 2015, 06:13 AM) *

Nice to see you posting, Liz! smile.gif


Was out yesterday helping a guy build a small leisure house or whatever you yanks call it tongue.gif We got the frame up and today the others are doing the roof. I didnīt come twice because Iīm not a postman cool.gif

I've yet to meet a man who even TRIES to come twice. They come once and they're finished.
mirocu
Are... Are we still talking about house building..? ohmy.gif ohmy.gif
Callidus Thorn
QUOTE(Elisabeth Hollow @ Jul 8 2015, 01:55 PM) *

QUOTE(mirocu @ Jul 8 2015, 06:13 AM) *

Nice to see you posting, Liz! smile.gif


Was out yesterday helping a guy build a small leisure house or whatever you yanks call it tongue.gif We got the frame up and today the others are doing the roof. I didnīt come twice because Iīm not a postman cool.gif

I've yet to meet a man who even TRIES to come twice. They come once and they're finished.


*Dies laughing*
mALX
QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Jul 8 2015, 04:12 AM) *

On another note, my insomnia seems to have buggered off.



That's great news!

QUOTE(mirocu @ Jul 8 2015, 07:13 AM) *

Was out yesterday helping a guy build a small leisure house or whatever you yanks call it tongue.gif We got the frame up and today the others are doing the roof. I didnīt come twice because Iīm not a postman cool.gif



Aw, that is so nice of everyone to help the guy! That guy is lucky to have so many nice friends!


mALX
QUOTE(Elisabeth Hollow @ Jul 8 2015, 08:55 AM) *

QUOTE(mirocu @ Jul 8 2015, 06:13 AM) *

Nice to see you posting, Liz! smile.gif


Was out yesterday helping a guy build a small leisure house or whatever you yanks call it tongue.gif We got the frame up and today the others are doing the roof. I didnīt come twice because Iīm not a postman cool.gif

I've yet to meet a man who even TRIES to come twice. They come once and they're finished.



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Elisabeth Hollow
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mirocu
So!



Was at the old car meeting this evening but I didnīt take the bike. Too cold/windy/chance of rainy. All that after a few days with very hot weather. Needless to say I hate HAARP dry.gif
Elisabeth Hollow
I have no less than three existential crisis' day now.
Callidus Thorn
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Elisabeth Hollow
Don't look at me like that!
Callidus Thorn
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Elisabeth Hollow
I've got writer's block again, and I'm tired. Sigh.
Callidus Thorn
QUOTE(Elisabeth Hollow @ Jul 8 2015, 10:18 PM) *

I've got writer's block again, and I'm tired. Sigh.


Urgh, I know that feeling.

I'm not doing much better on the writing front. I managed to wrap up the scene I was working on, but it needs work. And then I hit some writer's block too, starting the next scene.
Elisabeth Hollow
I know WHAT I want to write, but I have to be in a specific headspace to do so. By the time I have the quiet time to write, I'm too tired. During the day I have things i have to do, so I can't do it.
Callidus Thorn
QUOTE(Elisabeth Hollow @ Jul 8 2015, 10:28 PM) *

I know WHAT I want to write, but I have to be in a specific headspace to do so. By the time I have the quiet time to write, I'm too tired. During the day I have things i have to do, so I can't do it.


I have way too much experience with that same problem.

Recently I've been trying to force myself to write when I'm not in the frame of mind I generally rely on. It's not been going well. I can write, but it's an uphill struggle, and its not nearly as much fun.

I wish I had something helpful I could suggest, but I'm down to relying on sheer bloody-minded stubbornness at this point.
Elisabeth Hollow
Ha! I tried that, too. It literally exhausted me further.

I can type up a little short story no problem, almost. But the actual story that I'm creating is so difficult.
Callidus Thorn
QUOTE(Elisabeth Hollow @ Jul 8 2015, 10:41 PM) *

Ha! I tried that, too. It literally exhausted me further.

I can type up a little short story no problem, almost. But the actual story that I'm creating is so difficult.


I am having the exact problem. I've found that I can sometimes knock myself into the right mindset, either by visualising scenes that come ahead that I'd like to write, those that have the right feel to them, or by just typing until I hit a turn of phrase or something that gets me in the groove.

It doesn't work nearly as often as I'd like, but every time it does it's another victory.
mALX
QUOTE(mirocu @ Jul 8 2015, 03:03 PM) *

So!



Was at the old car meeting this evening but I didnīt take the bike. Too cold/windy/chance of rainy. All that after a few days with very hot weather. Needless to say I hate HAARP dry.gif



Someone modifying your weather Mirocu? mellow.gif




Elisabeth Hollow
Amazon sent me an email telling me they think they knew a few books I'd be interested in.

At the top was MY book XD
mALX
QUOTE(Elisabeth Hollow @ Jul 9 2015, 11:28 AM) *

Amazon sent me an email telling me they think they knew a few books I'd be interested in.

At the top was MY book XD



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Elisabeth Hollow
I was like "Really, Amazon? REALLY????"
Callidus Thorn
QUOTE(Elisabeth Hollow @ Jul 9 2015, 04:28 PM) *

Amazon sent me an email telling me they think they knew a few books I'd be interested in.

At the top was MY book XD


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Sometimes Amazon really don't seem to know what they're doing.
mALX
QUOTE(Elisabeth Hollow @ Jul 9 2015, 11:56 AM) *

I was like "Really, Amazon? REALLY????"



But it is kind of good to know they are advertising it for you!


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